If they survive the playoff I think NETS will have a better chance now to go to the finals,
Wait, isn't it obvious that once a team survives the playoffs, it means they are in the Finals already? Conference Finals is still part of the playoffs. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Just kidding. Nets really have a big chance to go to the Finals but they will have to pass the play-in tournament. Don't be deceived by a healthy Durant and Irving as even if these 2 are healthy, they are not a team to beat in the Eastern Conference. If Nets are not the team to beat in the East, then what should be that team? In the ranking, Nets still own the highest chance of winning, which is based on the betting odds which I believe is more accurate than any individual analysis out there. Let's also hope that no major injuries won't happen on any participating teams in the playoffs. Yes, because last time Irving was injured and the struggle of the Nets was real.
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Both are very important, marketing should continue as every gambling site wants to grow and expand. They need to keep their old players by giving the best services while at the same time, they also need to continue marketing to increase their market. There's no need to choose actually because a great gambling site would always serve the best interest of the users.
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I think the offer is not fair, it's Crawford who is now a more popular boxer and yet he is only getting 40% of the purse? No way Crawford would go for that, it's an insult to him, so he better not fight and just wait for the time that they'll agree with the terms.
Spence Jr. 3 PPV eventsMarch 2019 vs Mikey Garcia = 360,000 buys September 2019 vs Shawn Porter = 300,000 buys December 2020 vs Danny Garcia = 250,000 buys Crawford PPV eventsJune 2016 vs Viktor Postol = 60,000 buys April 2019 vs Amir Khan = 150,000 buys No need for an explanation why Crawford should take the 40% of the split. Wow! Crawford's combined PPV sales didn't even got the same sales for Spence's least PPV sales last year against Danny Garcia. It really makes some sense that Spence should get a 60% cut because he is more anticipated boxer than Crawford even if they're standings isn't that far. Well, if Crawford is really serious that he wants to fight Spence then a 40% share of the purse isn't that big deal as it could make him earn bigger. That's also if Spence could survive and win this fight against Ugas.
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My early pick. .. I got Spurs ML and Clippers -11.5
That's a great pick, Spurs are playing at home and KT will have a rest. It's a no-bearing game for both teams, so it's possible to see that the Warriors will not take it seriously, the home team should have an edge here. How about the New Orleans vs Memphis game? No bearing as well but can Memphis stay consistent and win the home game? The point spread is -6.5 MEM. It is, but I'm going with the Warriors -6 today even if Klay Thompson is already ruled out due to load management. The Warriors may not be in their best today but they can still come up with win to extend their winning streak, with of course spread well be covered. The Grizzlies, The Grizzlies upgraded Ja Morant to questionable heading into the game against the Pelicans. Taylor Jenkins has announced that he may play in one of the Grizzlies' last two games. SourceSo, I think this is the game where Ja Morant will play as this is their last play in their home this regular season. That alone will be enough for me that they can cover that -6 spread. I will follow you on that Warriors bet, Thompson is the only player who is sidelined in their current roster after Curry was injured. They still have more players that can play especially Poole who is really stepping up his game into a different level and they already proved that they can handle without their splash bros previously in this same season.
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^^ Well you can't blame someone who put some blame on Vogel. He is the anchor of the team so he has some liability as well as how the Lakers turn out to be this season.
I think this is one of Lebron's disappointing season as a player, too much hype and expectation on the team they build around him and Davis, but it sucks, lol. They are now back to the drawing board next season and maybe this will be his final run as a Laker.
Well, they already had this coming ever since the season have started because the current roster is almost consists of heavy players who are already out of their prime or haven't used to play as a support like WB who used to be an alpha of his former teams, but that doesn't excuses him the way he played this season. I mean look at his average PPG now, it's much more lower than his previous season that he was on the Washington Wizards. LeBron is really disappointed, indeed! From trying to build a superteam that turns into a losing magnet in the league.
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Donaire also knows that too because like Inoue, he also had the first hand experience which was their first encounter. So he already know that it's not good for him if he goes toe-to-toe with Inoue as it can really weary him in the long run. It might be best to counter every punches and be versatile or quick enough to react every move Inoue will make.
As @Fredomago said, both of them is equal in this match and we cannot really tell which of them have the advantage.
I'm thinking they will go toe-to-toe, face-to-face, close-to-close, bout-to-bout, head-to-head, or whatever clashes we called it because that's what they love. There's still defense but if one signals that they need to clash closely, the other party will go with the challenge. It's a form of respect by each boxer and ignoring that call is unprofessional. Inoue is known for his offensive style and he will not change that way just because Donaire is a counterpuncher and he has experience fighting him already. I don't really think Inoue will avoid Donaire in a close bout. As a champion, he will prove that he can beat Donaire in his comfort zone and that's what fans want to see. On the other hand, Donaire too will have the same thinking. If he was able to give Inoue heavy damage in that close fight before, he is comfortable he can repeat it. I couldn't agree more! Inoue already have that experience with Donarie and so does the latter, what they have started will be continued in this fight and they will go for that toe-to-toe call until one of them gives up. It's just that there will be some changes of their approach as they've already learned from their first encounter but that doesn't change the fact the one of them will chase through or ignoring so good toe-toe-toe call. In the same manner, I'm with Inoue here because unlike Donaire who cannot take all the punch, Inoue can.
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Per record they are both great fighters, but to be honest, did we really know Tagoe before this fight was announced? For me, "NO", I never heard of his name in the conversation of great fighters, so I don't expect a lot from him, but let's still watch this game, who knows he might pull an upset.
Actually, Emmanuel Tagoe is a far more experienced boxer compared to Ryan Garcia. With only 1 loss, Tagoe's record is impressive overall although his current rankings tell it all how the gap is the distance between him and Ryan Garcia. Bookies might think that the latter as much younger, can dominate Tagoe without a problem that's why in whatever aspects, Tagoe is the underdog in this match. The fight is just over a day to go. We will now see the result of this fight, an upset by Tagoe or dominance by Garcia. As per record, Emmanuel Tagoe is more experienced than Ryan Garcia and yes with only 1 loss, and that surely is an advantage to him because we count experience here. But going into Tagoe's past fights, he didn't even fought near Ryan Garcia's league and surely he will be overwhelmed here. I'm not Garcia's fan but comparing them makes me go into the latter's side. Also, don't forget that this fight is cherry picked so I don't think they will picked any opponent that Garcia cannot defeat.
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^^ Yeah, this is the possibility, we know how they robbed Pacman before and this could happen to Haney as well. So Haney should watch out about it and should be wary that the judges might be biased. The best thing for his is to score a knock out so that the judges are not going to be involved. Used his technical skills and make Kambosos not comfortable, this is the only way that Haney will win in this fight, knock out total control of the fight.
Pacman seemed to have really been robbed a win. In this case though, I think it'll be a fair fight. Both are on their prime and are expected to deliver what the fans are looking for. Still, seeing a knock out would be amazing! But maybe not on early rounds. I love the thrill of watching great fighters fighting it out and outwitting each other with their unique styles 😁👊. I hope it will not happen again, otherwise, the boxing organization might think of banning fights in that country if they see that there's an obvious robbery. We cannot prevent people from thinking that way if Haney would lose via decision as they can always connect it to what happen in the Pacman vs Horn fight, so let's hope that we will see a clean fight. Haney knows it's possible to happen again, so I'm sure his plans includes knocking out Kambasos so there's no more controversy in the fight and he will be declared a clear winner. The question is if he can knock out Kambasos.. Not a good reputation for the country to host a boxing event if they will do the same they did to Pacman. Maybe this time it will not happen again as the world is watching closely and they might be banned or sanctioned by the organization, and they don't want that to happen that big boxing events will be banned in this country. This is a hard fight for Haney as he is outside US, so he has to train hard as Kambasos is not an easy opponent to crack.
Exactly, but he has to train hard if he wants to win. That's the only way to beat Kambasos who is also a very disciplined fighter. I bet that the Australia is already in the industry's hotlist because of what happened last time with Manny Pacquiao, this time they will look further and make sure that these issues won't happen again in the future because this is also a big fight that many people have been waiting to happen. And for Haney, it might be best to do his best to crack Kambosos down before the scores will reach to the judges and let them decide. Having a knockout victory is sure cannot be robbed. We know that Haney will also struggle as he is not a knockout stylist but he have to do it even if it's not easy.
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Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.
That's a big difference, that's why he should win the finals MVP. Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt. I'm not sure if the betting line is still open now, but 1.31 odds for the Joker is still good to take.
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I got lucky tonight. Go Ginebra! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsWxgvjs.png&t=665&c=VSMp_ssEotn2NQ) I am nervous a bit when Bolts make a run and make it a 2 point game, but good thing Brownlee take over and did not give up. Ginebra are good in closing game so I trust them to win, and they succeeded tonight. Series now is tied 1-1. As expected, Ginebra wont give up easily and many knows that Ginebra will bounce back and they did. Luckily I was able to place my bet as well and have some profit. Going into game 3, I’m confident that Ginebra will take it now that they are already on their Rhythm and Bronwlee will always deliver. This is an exciting match up for the delight of the fans, I wish to want the game live hopefully in the next game. Game 3 could either be Ginebra or Meralco, if you saw how Meralco was able to come back in the game, it's possible that it will become a close series and I think the underdog has a good value here. I hope the line would be -5 for Ginebra in game 3 so I would take the Meralco ML. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) congrats @Japinat
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@Distinctin. The promoters might give GGG his trilogy against Canelo only if he gets the victory versus Murata dominantly and convincingly. I am quite certain Canelo will not agree with GGG on anything if GGG wins with a close decision against the Japanese fighter. I reckon it might be a close decision because GGG is old. He will be 40 years old on the day of the fight. Murata is also taller with a reach advantage of 2 inches and he is also younger. The fight will also be in Japan. I will not be shocked if the corrupt judges will give this a split decision for Murata.
Wow, the truth is that I had not thought about that, but you make very interesting points, apart from GGG's age and the difference with Murata, I think that Murata has a slight advantage and it is the so-called "irreverence", perhaps due to the fact of being more I don't have much respect for the experience or the "history or trajectory" of GGG, but I particularly tend to analyze many things and the effect that age has on the sport, and sometimes age has a great influence on being somewhat slower and having more limitations, but this influences a lot in soccer or in a sport where you have to run a lot, but in boxing maybe not, because by keeping the muscles active, the performance can be better or maybe more forceful, I hope that the trilogy will take place , GGG needs it, it would also be an excellent way to close his career with a good winning streak, Murata may take more experience and his career becomes more interesting. Not just GGG who have to win his fight but also Canelo, and both of them has the chance to be getting upset in their respective fights. We can read more about that in the thread made to them "Canelo vs Bivol". I can't really believe that GGG's age is already a disadvantage to him because he's just fighting a 4 years younger Murata and that doesn't mean that the latter is younger then it's automatic that he has the advantage. I think we forgot their background and experience, GGG in age of 36 has achieved and defeated better and stronger opponents than what Murata had of his age now. A boxer or athlete can be slower as their age grows but that process can be slower if the boxer has been continuously active throughout those years.
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I can spend a few dollars to bet for the Grizzlies for that @17 odds, they are a true contender for the trophy right now so they are worth the bet for me.
I'm not a fan of this kind of betting TBH because, in the playoffs, teams are so fragile, I mean an injury to its star player could ruin their chance to be in the Finals, just like what happened to the heavy favorite last season, the Nets.
Grizzlies this season cannot be underestimated that much because they can still give a good game and win it without their star like Ja Morant, we already saw them dominated the Suns in the regular season and that's like a preview to me how will they behave in the playoffs but their only disadvantage is that they don't have an experience in the playoffs. But yeah, Grizzlies is worthy to but right now and of course with the favorite Phoenix Suns. Also, if in-terms of injuries, that's avoidable especially in the playoffs but if I would choose between Grizzlies and Suns without Ja Morant and CP3, respectively. I'd pick the Grizzlies.
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These brothers are starting to become a pain in the a** in the industry but the management doesn't care about it as these brothers are also going to bring them good money with their exhibition fights. They are indeed using the advantage that they have a huge fan base in the internet to market every fights they get and of course it would really sell out to everyone because they really picking either famous and legendary fighters. Logan Paul vs Mayweather (succeeded) Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson (rumored) Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson (rumored) Jake Paul vs Conor McGregor ( on going discussion), Jake Paul even have the balls to say that he could knockout the Notorious McGregor in octagon. Jake vs Logan, brother vs brother, native blood vs native blood will be a grand finale I cant say that Logan is really a pain in the ass, he has prepared well for the fight against Mayweather, and Floyd showed mercy in this fight and just did some sparing, instead of turning on real Floyd. And what is the real Floyd? A real fighter? Or a runner who has mastered the art of avoiding the enemy's punches? For me, Floy didn't show mercy. He was just playing along. He was there for the money in the first place. There's no other reason. So why should he be exerting so much effort defeating this fake boxer when he is not anymore focused in his boxing record or any belt? He knew all along that what they're doing in the ring is not a fight but a show. And he only needed to act his role for that big and easy paycheck. I agree about that, Floyd Mayweather isn't a true champion with no stain in his record because there are those times that it's somehow clear that Floyd should've been defeated but when the decision comes, it suddenly favored to him when it's clear that his opponent deserves the victory. I like that word, a runner who mastered the art of avoiding opponents punches ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) well, he is guilty about that. I loved that scene when Logan Paul goes way beyond the line and have punched Mayweather in the face, the latter then decided to let Logan Paul taste his punches and that surely made Logan's world upside down for a bit.
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Pro fights are also important for the betting industry because there are people that are betting on them regularly but not on the non pro fights and we are not even sure if they are non pro fights that are included in every betting sites.
Professional fights helps the bettors to pick which is better between the two as their records will be published because these kind of fights are sanctioned by the Athletic Committee and other sanctioning bodies. However, on the exhibition fights or non professional fights, the sports bookies are still producing some betting options for you to bet on that specific fights. Although, I don't know how they declare someone as the winner because there is no judge as the fight is unsanctioned. That's right and I don't think placing bets on non professional fights is a good idea, just like what happened in Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. match I placed a bet in Mike Tyson and it is clearly that he has more hits than Roy Jones but ended up as a draw since according to the judges they are both legends in the boxing and in result I lose my bet. Well, it's not always going to be that kind of decision because the exhibition fights nowadays is really different from that time where Mike Tyson and Roy Jones did an exhibition match that resulted a draw. These days, it's more like of a joke instead of an entertaining fight just what like the people expected to see but it turns out that the fight was not that so entertaining to see, I mean who would really believe that these Paul brothers can and will defeat their opponents? Especially that they are going to face the likes of Mike Tyson and Conor McGregor.
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Even Keith Thurman doesn't have any difficulties when he faced Barrios after his long lay off in the industry.
I saw that fight, I think we should include Thurman on the discussion which is a possible opponent of Crawford in case Spence will say no after winning this fight, or possibly an opponent of Spence. I have Thurman winning against either Spence or Crawford because he is a decent boxer and I like the odds that the bookies will offer betting on him. That's another story, let's just wait until the end of this fight and see the development. If Spence wins, let's wait for his answer if he would say yes or no to a possible Crawford fight. If Ugas wins, I think we will see a Spence vs Ugas. That means, Thurman will just have to wait a little longer. I think you meant that if Ugas wins, we will probably see Ugas against Crawford soon. But for now that's just a big if because the fight isn't concluded yet and most of us ain't really sure which one of them will win, and that's what makes this fight more interesting to see. Yes, seems Thurman is ain't in their radar yet so that would really take some time before we can see him again and now let's just focus to Ugas and Spence as this thread discussion is dedicated to them.
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Wouldn't it be an unfair match since Jake Paul sport is boxing and McGregor is MMA and it would be a disadvantage for McGregor since he is not a boxer type of fighter. It would be interesting if the 3 rounds in Boxing and 3 rounds of MMA it's an exhibition after all and not official match.
Crazy wild idea right there lol. But okay since it is for purely entertainment, It could be possible to make this match more interesting, but McGregor will have all his advantage in terms of MMA field. We can consider boxing match for Paul since he's not really trained to being a boxer his whole career. When did he start fighting? 2017-2018? Though he's boxing skills have developed quickly looking like he's born to be a fighter, but being a fighter your whole career is still an advantage and I'm talking about McGregor, the dude literally trained more than half of his lifetime. The only advantage I can see here for Paul is his size. Jake Paul made his first debut in the boxing industry as a professional fighter last January 2020 against Ali Eson Gib who also making his first debut in boxing, and in just 2 years in his professional career he defeated 5 opponents and all of that is just a debut including Woodley (ex-MMA fighter). And now, he thinks that he is that wild enough to claim and make a statement that he could knock out McGregor in octagon. Can you believe that folks? A 25 year old Jake Paul who just have a 2 years experience in pro boxing could really defeat the one and only Conor McGregor in his own field of expertise. That's a big joke! Let's say that this time their fight will be consist of 2 rounds of boxing and 2 rounds of MMA, respectively. McGregor will just have an easy fight in the boxing and he could survive that first 2 rounds and then make him sleep afterwards in MMA rules.
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You have a good point on this. If GGG by any chance will lose to Murata, do you think he can still attract good money that he's talking about? The likelihood of getting big money is if in case, he will beat Murata. Because the fans will either be rooting for GGG or Canelo, if both will emerge as winners in their respective fights before their match-up. We can't be too confident about GGG's possible win because Murata has also a good boxing record.
I think they can still attract good money even if GGG will lose to Murata since the fight is not just about GGG. Many fans also like to see Canelo and he will be the main reason why it will generate a big money. The anticipated GGG vs Canelo III is a much-awaited boxing scene regardless of what will be the result of their respective fight, GGG against Murata and Canelo against Bivol. Do some people here really think that Murata will win against GGG? What if Murata won by Decision but it's clear that GGG is the winner? A Knock Out win is the only convincing method for people to see that Murata is a winner. Then it will be a shame if we are going to witnessed a robbery if Murata is declared a winner even if GGG should be the one to win that fight. But let's see, I think GGG will try to finished the fight early and will go for the knock out so that there will be no home town decision advantage for Murata and not give any chance for the judges to change the outcome of the fight and derail his third fight with Alvarez. We don't have to worry about that because it's more like an already an assurance that this fight will not be rigged as the Japanese people have been known around the world to be fair and square. I ain't really bothered that an instances like that will happen, but we will also watch closely to it because they're also human being meant to have a mistake. Aside from that, Murata is really nothing compared to GGG. He doesn't have any advantage aside from his age and that he will fight in his own soil. And speaking of robbery though, it seems that Murata has gotten the end of the stick as well: https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/5/20/15669890/ryota-murata-robbed-as-fellow-japanese-standouts-take-home-winsSo we will see and hopefully it won't happen to GGG in Japan. We will never know though, we still have to wait and see if judges are going to be fair. So the only way to control the outcome is for GGG to score a sensational KO. Oh dear, I wasn't informed that Murata himself has been robbed after he successfully dropped his opponent but the decision didn't favored him. Well, if that's the case I think he played fair and accepted the decision even if it was unfair and I have still no doubts that these Japanese people will do that but as the WBA is also taking a close look after every fight after that incident. That seems like a bit of a overstatement. Murata might not hold a candle to GGG, however this does not make him nothing. Murata has enough grit to face this out, and may even be lucky enough to win. Especially if you look at past fights like against Brant and Butler. During his last fight, Murata's 64 power punches were the second most connected by a middleweight in a single round.
Thats powerful. So I would not underestimate Murata just yet.
No, it wasn't but sorry if it translates that way because GGG is on a different league compared to Murata. I'm not saying that the latter doesn't stand a chance at all but his chances are not that big either.
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Pro fights are also important for the betting industry because there are people that are betting on them regularly but not on the non pro fights and we are not even sure if they are non pro fights that are included in every betting sites.
Professional fights helps the bettors to pick which is better between the two as their records will be published because these kind of fights are sanctioned by the Athletic Committee and other sanctioning bodies. However, on the exhibition fights or non professional fights, the sports bookies are still producing some betting options for you to bet on that specific fights. Although, I don't know how they declare someone as the winner because there is no judge as the fight is unsanctioned.
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We can't be sure if ring rust doesn't affect a fighter even some of the greatest fighter have expecting this kind of effect, so we will have to see how Spence is in the start, maybe he will be sluggish or something and Ugas can take advantage of it. But I agree that it will be a big task even for Ugas to beat a version of Spence that has that ring rust. Because Spence can offset it with his boxing IQ and then when he feels that he has shaken the cobweb, he will make the fight very interesting.
First of all, how do you or others define "ring rust"? Spence doesn't have a fight for around 1 year and 4 months. On that span of period, does a boxer can considered having a ring rust even currently at his prime? Take note also that Spence is supposed to fight last year, August 21 but got canceled. Therefore, Spence is actively training last year in the preparation for the fight against Manny Pacquiao. There's no way that "rust" will come easy since Spence is active always. Ring rust shouldn't be involved in the discussion as there's no such thing as that. Fact! Yes that right there is true, ring rust will only take effect mostly on those boxers who aren't so active while they are inactive for long in the sport. However, Spence here doesn't have to worry about that as his chances to have that effect is just slim to none and he is still on his prime. Even Keith Thurman doesn't have any difficulties when he faced Barrios after his long lay off in the industry.
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Rolling with the Jazz over GSW, both teams are in horrendous form but I prefer Jazz even though the Warriors kept it close against the Suns as they're still finding looking for a win to break their streak. I just hope the Jazz won't crumble again if they manage to get a decent lead by halftime. Too bad mate, the Jazz choke again after establishing a good lead against GSW. Not sure what the problem of the Jazz right now, but it seems that they are just a 2 quarter team right now. And then totally losing it in the last quarters. They are not down to 5th position in the Western conference though, so that is a consolation that they will go on the playoffs again. Seems like it! They managed to dominate and make the Warriors struggle in the 1st half but in the last 2 quarters, their energy suddenly becomes low that's why the Warriors have snatched the lead. Jazz had a bad night due to coach's poor decision making in the last quarter. Anyway, there's many good games tomorrow and the Suns have a -14 ML. Anyone willing to bet for that? Well, my pick is Bucks -5 against the Mavericks and 76ers -4.5 against the Cavs.
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