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2241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make governments accept bitcoin? on: February 23, 2017, 08:04:46 AM
- I do not want the government to accept Bitcoin, because the government will tax and the tax will become a burden for users Bitcoin, the government get a big profit from imposing on Bitcoin taxes. I do not want to enrich the government, I do not want to share the profits and I do not want to related laws. I love freedom and are not binding, I like Bitcoin for that, Bitcoin do not need the government to accept, now it is still good, still develop
2242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 22, 2017, 04:37:32 PM
Major causes of gambling addiction is:
- Many people have trouble in life and they see gambling as a way to get out of a difficulty
- A lack of entertainment area suiting with their interests, so many people have to gamble
- Gambling is a way to escape the problem (alone, lonely, bored, ...)
- Many people think that gamble will have a lot of money
- No job, unemployment
- Feel get money from gambling is easier than go to work
- Lack of love and care from the family
- Difficult to integrate in the society
Thanks for listing some major reasons why people become addicted to gambling. wow, I can not imagine that lack of love and care from the family can make a person addicted. Well, I think it must base on your experience, mustn't it? Cheesy
Just kidding. I have overcome gambling addiction for many years and I still find it is interesting to read what other people think about it
- Of course, "lack of love and care from the family", it will be affects our psychology. Because lack of love and care from the family, we can   easily approach gambling activities ( sports betting, gambling on the computer,...). Most of these people are very young and usually under the age of 18. Most of the gambling addicts admit they've started to gamble since we were children. This is not my experience, I read it in the articles on gambling addiction
2243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 22, 2017, 04:08:28 PM
Many people became broke because of gambling, addiction is a serious disease, you know they can't stop when they win or lose. Pathetic gamblers.

It's a serious thing that we really need to prevent and for those people that are having hardship on quitting in gambling they should do something for it. I guess they are thinking that it is really hard to quit gambling and that's why they are having hardship to quit on it but if they are not going to think about it and just do whatever it takes just to give up gambling, I know they can.

Some people enjoy it even when they are addicted, if they dont ruin themselves then it is fine. If they still could keep their head cool and only spend what they can afford then everything is fine. First of all Im addicted and I gamble almost daily with a very small amount, $1 and even less however I dont feel that I need help to quit this
- Yes, Gambling addiction is a hidden illness and giving up gambling is extremely difficult because many people not realize problems they are facing, they always want to regain what had lost. I think the best solution is change in lifestyle and towards choices more useful. Four decisive factor for gambling is money, time, a decision and a game. We only need to replace it with work more positive and we can stop gambling. In addition, we need the support of the people around. But the best important is we realize problem we are facing
2244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 22, 2017, 03:33:02 PM
Major causes of gambling addiction is:
- Many people have trouble in life and they see gambling as a way to get out of a difficulty
- A lack of entertainment area suiting with their interests, so many people have to gamble
- Gambling is a way to escape the problem (alone, lonely, bored, ...)
- Many people think that gamble will have a lot of money
- No job, unemployment
- Feel get money from gambling is easier than go to work
- Lack of love and care from the family
- Difficult to integrate in the society
2245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 22, 2017, 08:46:06 AM
I tried many times to control my self after making some money through gambling, but it is not possible when we are making our mind will suggest to play more games. But ultimately i am loosing all the money which i earned through gambling, this happens to me many times. Because like me many gamblers are looking for higher values of returns so only they cannot able to control their feelings.

If you are already in the middle of your betting, and you are catching the momentum already, then it is hard to control your self anymore, specially if you are winning few consecutive bets in a row. Setting a limit before playing is much effective way of controlling your self than doing it in the middle of your games.  Smiley
- Set limits sometimes not efficient, I have had many times experience, despite setting limits but I still exceeds the limit. It's difficult to control myself, emotions and greed affect too much on my mind. Huge profits made me become greedy and more madly, I even don't recognize myself. Human nature is greed and don't accept loss, we are always trying to recover loss and we did not realize it was too late, the recovery is not possible. We will sink deeper and deeper into the gambling and the control becomes more difficult
2246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 22, 2017, 08:25:53 AM
It seems so, I'm not sure that there is a definite way to get profit from trading, everything is uncertain and is similar to gambling that relies on luck.

All I can say is profit in trading is a little closer to gambling, but in trading you can learn it and when you learn how to do it, the risk is not as big as what you can get in gambling. Besides, the loss in trading is not as big as what you can get in gambling, in trading, wrong timing means no profit and a little loss, while in gambling, everything is uncertain, you bet, you wait, you will lose it all in an instant.  Smiley

quickest way to lose money is gambling but if you do have some patience and wanted to learn a lot better to move to trading and make your assessment and study be applied, in most cases trading can lessen big loses and make it to bounce back with proper knowledge unlike in gambling
if you lose , you lose it all and trying to bounce back will let you fall to keep losing and losing your money.
Yes gambling is the quickest way to lose money and also make money. You have luck you will make a big profit in one day. But in gambling luck will not come daily. So trading is best it will take the time to give returns, but if you wait patiently you will get good returns at the end. Trading is the best way to make money through Bitcoin.
- Yes, Gambling does not provide stable income and safety for players, everyone loses for a long time. Lucky not create income for you, only the skills, experience and analysis can help you create income and trading is a choose suitable. In trading, you use your knowledge to make a profit in the long run and lucky is a part to help you succeed. In gambling, we completely rely on luck, knowledge does not help us too much and in the long term we will have more losses and even bankruptcy or debt
2247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 21, 2017, 04:37:37 PM
i think anyone can be rich from gambling if they play gambling with skill and if someone experience in gambling they will be sooner rich from gambling because we can earn profit in short time through gambling.

I don't think so because even you will gamble with skills and you know how to take risk that will still not matter at all. Because most of us who gambles that way have the same fate and if ever we are going to win some amount and can make us rich this is just applicable to very few gamblers who are actually lucky.
Hence, anyone can be rich from gambling, that was he meant to say. Despite of risk, there is still a chance. That smallest chance will lead you or will make you rich. However, it shouldn't be the major source lr factor for you to be rich. It's still better to become rich from something you put your effort.

i agree with you but the most gamblers is only getting loss in gambling games and they don't know that they have two option when they playing gambling which is win or loss. we can getting rich from gambling but we need to have a discipline from this and we should quickly stop from the games when we know that we have win too much and we need to know when we must stop the games.
- Gambling is game of fate, always have hidden dangers. No one can predict what's going to be happened, you can become rich in a few minutes or you can bankrupt after a few minutes. Skills and experience do not decide anything, risks from gambling is still too big. Discipline is not always effective, it only helps you keep and earn a little profit. Get rich from gambling is impossible, chance of getting rich is too small
2248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 21, 2017, 04:16:51 PM
Yes I use historical analysis coupled with luck to select my games for sports betting. No one can rely on just luck to win games  consistently except a one day fluke. So it's imperative for every gambler to do some game analysis before gambling.
it is indeed for some people making an analysis before start playing a game are imperative , but don't forget there a lot of people really gambling for having fun and don't want to wasting another time just for do things like analyzing .

they just come to a casino , put their money on stake and just roll it ! i sometimes do this too .

Do you ever gamble?  Don't you think before you make a bet?  Don't you gamble for fun?  And while having fun, don't you think on where to put your bet?  How much odds you will put in your bet?  And do you think how much you wanted to spend for your fun time?  This is a simple analyzation.  I tell you whether a person is gambling for fun or profit, the factor of analyzing things will never be absent. Unless the person don't use his brain.
- Right, gambling for fun but not play a way thoughtless. You will be happy if you lose money, you will be happy if your choice is wrong. The answer is no, you can play gambling for fun or profit, but you need to analyze before choosing. Avoid losing money foolishly, analysis is a necessary and sufficient condition, you always have to use it. Luck can not stand on your side, but the good analysis can help you create luck
2249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling worth to try for newbie? on: February 21, 2017, 03:54:09 PM
Its not bad for a newbie to try gambling for the first time , many newbies are winning on different gambling sites when they was a newbie. Begginers luck maybe , It is just risky for a newbie to be addicted on playing gamblinv that you cant control your feelings and emotions, You came to the point that you are starting ruining your life. That is bad side being addicted.
You are right its not bad for any one to try gambling but worst thing is addiction because if some one going to addicted this then he is going to lost many things some even lost lives for this if you want to enjoy then just do this for fun never try to involve too much as its going hurt
Before a newbie will start to gamble, he should know the possibilities most especially the negative things. When he is aware of gambling addiction, he can do it at the right way, addiction is the big hindrance for enjoying in the long run and people can only be addicted if he does not know how to accept loses.
This thing should really be really on the minds of newbies or for those people who tried gambling for the very first time and as you said they should know the possibilities of gambling addiction which is really very hard to remove once it got already to yourself. Gambling should be treated as an entertainment not as a money making machine.
Well i think if you're a newbie, the first thing that would be on your mind would be curiosity. You won't be thinking of responsibilities or what might happen as you're just trying new things out. And for me that's ok. Newbie stage shiuld allow you to make mistakes and to learn from them as lessons and then that's the time that you'll have realizations on what you want to do or how you'll do things
Well, at the same on giving a try to gain experience you should not loss all your earnings. Because as a newbie when you find yourself lucky, you won't be standing within the limits. So learn and gain experience with small wagers, soon you'll realize and decide whether to continue it for earning purpose or for fun.
- Gambling will teach newbie a lesson about the value of money. Newbie will know gambling is not a job to make money, you died of your curiosity. Gambling leads to bad effects, you will addicted and you'll pay a heavy price for your mistake, gambling not suitable for newbie. Stop before it's too late. However if you want to experience, you could try once or twice and then you might get unexpected pleasure from it
2250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 21, 2017, 03:39:42 PM
Gambling becomes addictive when you don't know when to give up. You need to be psyched up before you indulge in any form of gambling especially sports betting that you can expect the worst bit it seems a lot of betting victims get caught into betting more and over and over in a bid to regain their list money and this gets you going and never stopping and will eventually lead to addiction.
First, gambling is a very fun and exciting thing to do. And most addictions are from things that would really get your interest. Be it dice or poker or sports betting, a lot of people get interested in the notiin of gambling especially the fact that they are risking aomething that can give them good rewards. I don't think they think about the consequences here anymore. Gambling for some people can make you forget about other things and just go with the moment
- I think gambling makes us lose ourselves and if we lose ourselves, we'll lose everything. Gambling makes us feel excited, betting action is repeated, we made it a habit and we become addicted to gambling since then. We never thought we would lose, we always believe that something wonderful is about to happen, it makes us become more addicted to gambling
2251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: February 20, 2017, 04:32:31 PM
I would prefer to tell that my luck has come in pre bets that I can manage to lose. If I managed to win, with easy chances and managed to have real profit, I would set a limit and gamble. Then use certain strategies that can make your bankroll double. Try and discover different strategies, so you could earn from it, don't be so greedy.

But where is luck come in your opinion?
Because i am asking thread related with when luck come. Actually, about me, whenever i started to play betting always i think to win every bets, but only few and sometime not few i win in gambling. And sometime i am not thinking and by chance i win.
So in my thinking, i am not agree that someone tell you that luck is coming, we realize about luck when it had come.   
No one will tell you when your luck will come it's is unpredictable. If your time is good you will win your bets. Otherwise, you will end with the loss. The luck comes only a few minutes in a full day play. You have to utilise that time and make some profit. For me when I play low odds bets my luck always with me if I change my betting odds low to high then it will go.
It is true that no one can tell when your luck will come. It will come unpredictable. Luck is something that wouldn't not happen if you don't in yourself that you can get it or you won't cope for it. I agree that luck also depends on your strategy, so if you'll remain at 1 serttings or 1 place of bet, the luck probability is low.
- Yes, luck is so unpredictable, it can come any time, very difficult to give an exact something about luck. But i think luck also depending on experience and your strategy, statistic, analysis,... The matter depends on a variety of factors. However, in gambling luck can never stand on your side, I do not see anyone have luck in gambling, the end of gambling is very bad
2252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: February 20, 2017, 04:16:30 PM
Well simply because it has lower risk rather than throwing a dice in a gambling site , If you are aware of the market and analyse it properly there is a big chance you can get either small or big profit  but still it is a chance there still a probability that your going to lose.
That's true trading is where you can minimize your lose and you can maximize your profit while in gambling dice there are 30% percent chance of winning and 70% chance of loosing and just throwing your money for nothing for fun Smiley But if your luck accurate in your play you can win big profit somehow

I realize many members are replying that trading is better than gambling, and as you said in dice 30% chances to win and i want to tell in gambling all games have 30% chances to win and 70% chance to confirm of lose. But if i vote for trading, because in trading whenever i got lose than i also recover it, it need sometime to recover the lose but it possible. But in gambling if i try to recover my lose than always i get double lose, that's point of view, i prefer trading.
Otherwise for me both are risky, sometime profitable and many time lose-able.         
- Trading and gambling have points of similarity. However, the mass of people choose trading because loss recovery is entirely possible, we just be patient, a little luck, a reasonable strategy, time and wait, we are possible to restore the lost. In gambling, the restoration is absolutely impossible, we are going to lose more than we imagined. I choose trading because it would be safer if we all knew more about analysis and read chart
2253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: February 20, 2017, 04:02:29 PM
Experience matter many people are only wanted is to have a experience even they loosing in the game. How can you win if you don't have expercience but it always depends on the gambling game you are going to play most of gambling site's don't need a experience just learn the mechanics.

I think experience does influence our fate when gambling, but not too big. Especially in the dice game, you could say the experience did not help when playing the dice game. Dice games are games that rely on our luck. Experience an effect on how we resolve the situation, the current situation was victorious and the current situation worse. We can know what we should do.
- Right, our fate was already decided from the start gambling, the result is still loss, experience only helps us to minimize the loss and sometimes it may not work. However, these experiences help us more mature, we will realize to making money from the gambling is impossible. Then, keep playing or give up depends on us
2254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 20, 2017, 03:47:36 PM
Greed has it's on way on all of us, on way to make us play more and eventually lose everything we've achieved.  I experienced that lots of times and it's not fun. I'm trying to improve it myself if I had the chance to withdraw some profit,  I would now.

Dont blame 'greed' , blame your own self for not having control of your own. It is very stupid to see people keep on blaming something that is quite weird as their excuses for their gambling addiction. We as a human are given brains to control ourselves therefore everyone is responsible for their own act
- Dare to do, dare to accept consequences, but we do not blame greed, greed really affect us. Greed is instinct of human, it was nearly uncontrollable, I don't think that we can control excitement and greed when gambling. Sometimes, the brain may receive a wrong signal, and greed happened beyond our control, we can not recognize greed. That is not justification, it is true
2255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: February 19, 2017, 02:04:46 PM
Don't have the money, I'm sure if you had no money then you will stop gambling. Because gambling is to use money, so that if there is no money then we will not be gambling.

I don't understand how a person cannot have money. Gamblers are those who are working and earning something, no one with no money can go to gamble because they can't do it, and if a person is already earning and addicted to gambling then they will surely use some of their money to gamble and they cannot have no money if they are having jobs.

Yeah and even if addicted gamblers don't gave money, they most certainly will try to find a way, either by borrowing or loaning or even selling personal belongings. So yeah i don't think being without money actually would be a reason someone would quit. For me quitting is more on psychological and emotional aspect. As long as you have control over those, quitting would be easy for anyone

The bad influence of gambling is when a person no longer has anything to gamble, they would borrow money from others, sell their valuable goods, or even worse commit crimes to get money in order to fulfill their desire to gamble. May we be spared from that bad influence!
- Yes, gambling has a bad influence on our character, gambling addicts could turn to petty crime to feed their habit. I have seen a man had stolen thousands of dollars to satisfy his gambling addiction, this is awful. "Quit gambling", it depends on ourselves, let's face it and try to change, if we try, we will congration
2256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 19, 2017, 01:45:06 PM
Addiction causes someone to continuesly do something and sometimes that means doing something that is high risk for the thrill.
They will do what they addicted to regardless of the consequences and that is why you see someone people with ga!bling problems and addictions.

addiction is a risk that would have been known by every gambler at the start gambling. Before they begin to gamble surely they know that if they can not control themselves, they could be people who are addicted to gambling. And because of addiction, people continue to gamble even though they often lost and had lost a lot of money.

well i think this doesn't apply to everyone who gambles. addiction happens to only a certain number of people who cannot control themselves and, though it seems there are a lot of them, i think most people who are gambling can in a way still control themselves with their bets, A lot of people gamble only for fun and let's face it, the fun stops when we lose a lot of money.
- Yes, They will face the music if they go on. We can control gambling addiction instead of letting it control us by controlling emotion and reason, set in habit good and persistence give up gambling. If we persevere, I'm sure we will succeed. We still gambling while we always lose because addiction, greed, lost control ..., it's not a legitimate reason. Try to break bad habits, don't justify any more
2257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 19, 2017, 12:40:05 PM
I want to know what you guys think about this, I have stopped gambling but still trade so does this mean I am still gambling?? I don't trade on basis of luck I trade using my skills would it still be considered gambling??

Please tell me what do you think.
Certainly no. Gambling is different than trading. In trading, you do exchange for other currency, no betting occcuring, just analysis kn the graph. While gambling, you used to play a game with your money, you would earn from your luck.
- No, trading is gambling, because money doesn't grow on tree. In trading, where the money comes from? Money from players, you win, the others will lose, this is a kind of gambling, but you can rely on the skills, analyze to win other players, between trading and gambling, trading would be safer. In gambling, they has cheated and you can't win based on skill or analyze, everything depends on your luck, you have to face is admin, not the players
2258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: February 19, 2017, 12:06:46 PM
i will always cash out any winning profit that i can make from gambling. because i have very bad bunch of experiences making me wish i never made those mstakes, every time i won something and didn't cash out i ended up losing both the profit and even more from my bankroll trying to win it back.
i promised myslef never again.

Yeah you're right there. Experiences has a way of teaching us over time to correct mistakes we've made. I also in the past lost a lot of winnings because instead of cashing out and puttingnthose winnings for better use, i let my greed and cockiness take over so instead of gping home happy after coming from a casino, i end up with much less money and a lot of regrets
- You look like me very much. Every time I do not withdraw profit, my end results is the number 0, I feel so sorry because greed and arrogance, I need to earn a lot of money but I didn't realize arrogance and greed that killed me. If everything can get a start again, I won't make the same mistake. Now, I must pay for my mistakes, I given up gambling and I'm hard-working, gambling not suitable for me
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2260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 18, 2017, 03:45:53 PM
for me gambling is not a shameful thing,others used gambling as their way to enjoy things..only brave people gamble because it takes courage to push through what they want..maybe it can be called gambling but if its a way to make somebody happy ang enjoy life to the fullest.
Really not, When you loved gambling all thing in gambling you are going to accept that because gambling brings you or gave you money dpends on your skills and depends on how you are going to control your self , You can fulfill your enjoyment , Gambling are design to lose but if you are going to push it on your hard work playing maybe in the end you will see the result.
I agree. It's a matter of patience we should not give up. Gamble what we can lose, not we can't lose. Although it has a less probability of winning, there is still percentage of chance of winning which is very important. Gamble can change our life. It can gives us instant money if we aren't greedy. If we are greedy, nothing will happen to us but lose.
- Change life?, I think gambling will make your life worse. I saw a lot of people just like you, want to make money from gambling, want to change lives, but the result is that they bankruptcy, they deceive and injure their families. I know we should not be ashamed because we are gamblers, but we need to shame because we were hurting and deceive our family
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