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22521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Humidity: how low is too low? on: November 20, 2017, 04:26:08 PM
Since you stated you vent to the outside adding humidly would be a challenge. I would suggest looking into anti-static floor mats near where you would work on the miners and a lot of grounding.

A facility where I worked at once had a ground bar installed in various places on the walls where you could touch to discharge any static before touching electronics. You might need to look into these type of options as the higher humidity solution sounds like it might be unavailable for you.

So based on this ESD is only a concern with human interaction? the miners sitting by themselves in this dry air are at not risk?

they are at risk  if dust  gathers inside the s-9

the fans  can move dust and spark a bit of ESD.

been there done that.

I suggest  taking s-9's apart and really cleaning dust out of them.

and 12%  is  low

  you could have  a few discharge mats at the  entrance

 Door to THE ROOM  so you don't space out and ESD the gear.
22522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain disgusted on: November 20, 2017, 02:59:31 PM
Okay, I'm confused. Why is Bitmain disgusted? I'd think they would be quite satisfied while sitting atop a giant pile of everyone else's money.

Yep they must be pretty happy.
22523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 20, 2017, 01:12:04 PM
hey, fellas

I just got the fourth Vega for an existing rig, it would be replacing rx 470 in the first 16X slot.
one of prior 470s to Vega replacements on risers was stubborn and required DDU-ing the blockchain driver, then re-installing it. Before doing this, Windows were reporting that the card was there, but driver (and GPU-z) did not see it at all, hence no mining.

Q: some people report that replacing 470/570 card in the first 16Xslot (the one that normally outputs to display) with Vega results in a blank screen. Just trying to optimize the procedure.

Does DDU-ing, than re-installing the blockchain driver works in this case (on mobo, not risers) as well? I would hate to connect Vega and than be forced to reconnect 470 back.

Thanks

No vegas for me can't help.

But  btc = $8162.00   damn
22524  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: November 20, 2017, 12:53:29 PM
Soooo i saw some post on reddit - Someone was complaining that Bitmain didn't sent them PSU even if they did make same order Miner+PSU. Someone replied on it and said that they sent 2 of those in 2 different shipments... Is any of this true? Can someone please answer, Did anyone had problem like this? With common sense i am expecting for shipment to arrive both at the same time, is that how they work? Or is really 2 different shipment?

they  will be in separate boxes.

the s-9  comes in its own box as does the psu.

most of the time they come on the same day.  good luck






I am still waiting on shipping for my orders.

I have 4 s-9's on order

2 for nov
1 for dec
1 for jan
22525  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Solar array starting to look good. on: November 20, 2017, 12:19:33 PM
Hi Philip,

Just wondering what your GPU rig builds are - hoping to follow a successful build for a gpu rig of my own in the near future.

wrong thread  here is a set of  links:


thread 6 = 93 pages with 52,000+ views
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2138550.0

thread 5 =  52 pages 45,000+ views
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2019146.0


Link to thread 1 = 44 pages 39,000+ views

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0

Link to thread 2 = 113 pages  144,000+ views

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0

link to thread 3 = 42 pages  40,000+ views

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1799555.0

link to thread 4 = 100 pages 105,000+ views

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1877588.0
22526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 6 x gtx 1070 ti with nicehash. daily payout changing every other min on: November 20, 2017, 03:58:55 AM
You can set the Nicehash software to ignore individual algorithms.

 The nature of their marketplace is not coin specific, so you CAN'T specify specific coins to enable or disable - just algorithms.

 10 gauge wire IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO SAFE FOR 60 AMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 You need to downsize that breaker to not more than a 30 AMP immediately.

 60 amps needs more like 4 gauge wire as I recall (working from memory here, not from an actual wire table).


6 gauge if the run is short.

But. I could be wrong.

Yeah checked copper 6 gauge works if it has correct insulation
22527  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25+PH] KanoPool kano.is NO FEE TIL 2018 PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: November 20, 2017, 03:46:34 AM
kano  do you allow renting from nicehash or has that been stopped?
22528  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Solar array starting to look good. on: November 20, 2017, 03:26:18 AM
new video of gear in the array


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKlXarvBv5M
22529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: gpu bubble well and truly bursting on: November 20, 2017, 03:06:01 AM
Newegg had Rx 580 4GB (Powercolor Red Dragon model) for $199.99 after $20 rebate today. I very much wanted to buy a few at that price, but I managed to curb my enthusiasm. They still sold out within a few hours.

I have to stop buying gear.


 Grin
22530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 20, 2017, 02:04:39 AM
Early glimpse at my new project.
Been bouncing this design around in my head for a while, but decided to finally get off the dime and get one built.

 The new, LOW COST, Quintleo 6 rigs rack-shelf unit.

sure looks solid. add castors and just roll em to where you want em.

yeah  needs quality rollers  for  easy access
22531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number of fans on: November 20, 2017, 12:29:24 AM
Might be obvious to us, but not to people like the topic starter — fans are just a part of the equation. I've got 2-fan Palit GTX 1080 cards (Super Jetstream and Gamerock) and 3-fan Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1080 cards — Palit are super quiet and cool, while Gigabytes are loud and hot. Gigabyte's coolers are so bad I'm not buying any of their higher-end Windforce cards ever again. So a triple-fan card might be a lot worse than a dual-fan card, the radiators are what matter the most.

yep 

gigabyte  are meh

msi  ARMOR are meh

asus dual are meh

I will not use them
22532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ETH switch to PoS will kill GPU mining but everybody seems pretty relaxed on: November 20, 2017, 12:27:14 AM
welll always remember that

When Eth is moved to POS, i expect a pump in price for this changes.
Then, most other altcoin are base price off ETH which means if you could mine 0.2 abc which worth $1 today, you could mine 0.1 abc which worth $2 in the future

I believe price will always be parallel across

pos  is simply like a bank paying interest.


but pos  coins  have no government insurance or guarantees.

I have yet to see any POS coin do well.
22533  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Really big drop in the difficulty is coming good bad meh? What do you think? on: November 20, 2017, 12:21:48 AM
This is almost certainly entirely due to the BCH emergency difficulty adjustment stealing BTC hashrate. Now that they've removed the EDA, things will be different, but BCH will still have a share of the hashrate. I doubt we'll see another drop in difficulty any time soon after this again because of that (and the ever rising BTC value.)

Yeah  BCC/BCH  did cause it.

And  I think  if  BCH/BCC  jumps  in price  it could happen again.

If it  was 3000 a coin  people would jump from btc again.

Damn ck  8000 a coin for btc

Do you remember  when  we used to pool to mine your solo pool.

We hit  two 25 coin  blocks  in 2 hours  I was holding 50 coins  damn that would be 400,000
22534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 20, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
Early glimpse at my new project.
Been bouncing this design around in my head for a while, but decided to finally get off the dime and get one built.

 The new, LOW COST, Quintleo 6 rigs rack-shelf unit.





 When I build more than one, I plan to put sheetrock between each one to limit the potential of fire damage and to help direct airflow.

 The top shelf is offset forward, to put a keyboard trackball monitor and LAN switch on.

 The other 6 shelves are offset backwards, with the intent of mounting a pair of 20" box fans on the front to blow LOTS of cooling air through the "rig shelfs".


 This one I partly "recycled" one of my earlier shelf units to build.
 It also doesn't work out quite "even" on the parts - it needs one "spare" pair of the 16" cut boards for shelf supports.

 To build it, you need 4 standard 96" 2x4 boards (2 cut in half for the 4 verticals, 2 cut into 6 x 16" boards for shelf support) plus a spare 1/3d of a 2x4 for the shelf supports for the last shelf.
 7 x 2'x2' fibreboard (I prefer to stay close to 3/4" - can use plywood instead, I'm not sure if particleboard would be solid enough to work but PROBABLY).
 56 8-penny common nails (can use 10-penny in a pinch but the ends tend to stick out a bit past the end of the boards.
 70 6 penny nails (hold the shelves on AND provide rigidity left-to-right)

 I went with the "6 rigs" option mostly due to power distribution factors - it's entirely possible to build a varient that will hold 8, or 10 rigs without getting TOO high to be workable with.



fixed it.  has potential   you  could do   evga 1070 hybrid on the onda 6 card boards

would be very quiet




22535  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: A741 Temperature Allow on: November 20, 2017, 12:03:07 AM
hi All, my A741 is running at Temperature 45-50 / 98 - 100, with 100% fan speed and -1 Power. Anyone know what's the maximum allow for this machine?

What's your temperature ?

set to -2

 the 45-50    is above spec  that is the inside board temp



the 98-100 is very close to max



how hot is the room?


22536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 19, 2017, 10:25:14 PM


I love the description on the fans "3 violent fan 5000 turns 12CM".  That's gotta be loud I'm guessing.

 Delta GHE I suspect from the RPM count (technically 5200 RPM for the AFB version) - a hair louder than the fans Bitmain has been using for years but a little higher airflow.
 Definitely SERIOUS airflow.



There's 7 of those fans too. 3 intake, 4 in the center. However they say it's a "12038" fan. A quick google showed several variants between 2000-2900rpm. Unsure if it's indeed 5000rpm. I'll ask the seller.

I'd rather run them at 2000rpm for less noise and to save electricity. The antminer S9 uses 1300W and 2 of those fans. A 12 GPU rig, assuming 1200W, shouldn't require 7 of antminer's fans.

 12038 is a SIZE description - 120 x 38 mm - which describes a TON of Delta high-CFM models.
I do agree that just the MIDDLE fans should be plenty for that case, dunno why they think they need a push-pull setup.

Delta AFB1212GHE soaks 3.24 amps at 12VDC (per the label on the back of the one I'm quoting from) - I think the "focused flow" fans soak a little more but not a lot, perhaps 4 amps for the GHE models.



 MFJ Enterprises is still alive? I thought they died years ago.
 Used to use some of their Ham Radio related stuff.


  for me  I would go with the scythe  use the controller to drop them to   100cfm at 2200 rpm  and use a lower tdp.

I  think I will have spotswood build a case for the onda 8 card + 4

I will be looking to run 7 or 8 waterblock cards on the case.
22537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: gpu bubble well and truly bursting on: November 19, 2017, 10:19:43 PM
At your power cost, my A2 farm would be barely break-even or losing a hair of money.
At my power cost, they're generating almost $3 for each $1 in power usage - and they're by far the LEAST efficient miners I'm running at this point.

 8-)


 I'm making enough that I can afford to point all of my AMD cards almost all of my CPUs (except the Vega 56 for now) at doing non-cryptocoin specific work (though most of it is BOINC work and I do earn enough GRC to pay most or all of the electric those rigs are using).
 
 As part of my "rationalization" plan, though, I'm slowly shifting the CPUs over to mining Monero - FX 8320e for the most part, which don't match the higher-end Ryzens but 300 hash out of a under $120 part is a faster payoff then 450-500 hash out of a $250+ part - and I already have the FX setups.






The solar array and my friends bank office helps since the power is 1/2 the  coins  mined.  What. Happens is I can always have 1/2 the coins and do not need to update quickly.  Gives me a lot of down turn protection.

Buysolar has just about paid off the array in under 2 years vs 5 years projected.

Hopeful we get second array done.
22538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ETH switch to PoS will kill GPU mining but everybody seems pretty relaxed on: November 19, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
@ op  look at eth and xmr  they will flip flop in worth  and xmr  along with etc will replace  eth which will sink a ton  in value as no POS coin can work.


https://coinmarketcap.com/


1   Bitcoin   $134,197,618,257   $8041.07   $3,054,920,000   16,689,025 BTC   3.58%   sparkline


2   Ethereum   $33,633,699,627   $350.98   $1,244,660,000   95,827,966 ETH   3.96%






3   Bitcoin Cash   $19,632,192,825   $1167.82   $1,337,480,000   16,810,975 BCH   -7.97%   
4   Ripple   $8,922,274,387   $0.231010   $192,879,000   38,622,892,459 XRP *   1.42%   
5   Litecoin   $3,812,299,152   $70.73   $243,953,000   53,899,933 LTC   3.59%
6   Dash   $3,342,697,307   $434.21   $87,931,800   7,698,360 DASH   -4.75%
7   NEO   $2,488,700,500   $38.29   $275,887,000   65,000,000 NEO *   -16.20%
8   IOTA   $2,429,907,066   $0.874215   $63,080,400   2,779,530,283 MIOTA *   9.20%


9   Monero   $1,976,957,777   $128.59   $47,050,900   15,373,520 XMR   -2.95%   




10   NEM   $1,826,145,000   $0.202905   $8,655,760   8,999,999,999 XEM *   4.10%

11   Ethereum Classic   $1,747,849,847   $17.91   $113,074,000   97,599,442 ETC   0.67%





12   Lisk   $1,091,321,692   $9.48   $40,204,400   115,070,012 LSK *   2.93%   sparkline
13   Qtum   $1,023,348,217   $13.89   $64,969,100   73,673,056 QTUM *   -1.22%   sparkline
14   EOS   $890,504,872   $1.83   $53,036,200   486,465,820 EOS *   -4.74%   sparkline
15   Hshare   $826,156,595   $19.54   $31,218,400   42,270,109 HSR   -3.73%   sparkline
16   OmiseGO   $799,906,461   $7.84   $28,312,000   102,042,552 OMG *   -3.61%   sparkline
17   Zcash   $787,759,386   $296.62   $56,013,900   2,655,831 ZEC   -1.98%   sparkline
18   Cardano   $729,919,631   $0.028153   $4,316,480   25,927,070,538 ADA *   6.36%   sparkline
19   Tether   $674,146,070   $0.998784   $487,722,000   674,966,830 USDT *   -0.43%   sparkline
20   Stellar Lumens   $651,729,049   $0.036789   $16,802,000   17,715,179,396 XLM *   2.71%   sparkline



think of all these coins as rebates for pc/gpu builders like myself.

The major companies of pc componets all  can feed a coin rather then give a rebate.  It is cheaper and easier for them to do so.

Both AMD and Nvidia  will grease a coin launch.

BTG most likely  is being greased by NVidia.

So ??coin  will be greased by AMD

Eth developers know this and have delayed  POS  a year already.  they will delay it more.
22539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: gpu bubble well and truly bursting on: November 19, 2017, 06:33:04 PM
Hey just had to drag this up.

 my  rigs  are earning   $$$$


https://www.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


Monthly income

0.22953600 BTC
1789.92 USD


11,300 zols  about 17 x 240 = 4.1 kwatts or 100 kwatts per day  3000 per month at 13 cents =  390 power bill  and since it is winter  the heating bill drops 110

so 280  powercost  to earn  1790 a month  net =  1510
some  videos of asics and gpu rigs

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-K1Sokgy3-4CdV_uZF8ubw?view_as=subscriber
very nice earning quite decently here as well 27k sols

not counting my solar array deal or my bank office deal free power I split coins

https://www.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

3000 sols earns me 0.0010 a day or 0.030 btc a month  no power cost = 240 usd
3650 sols earns me 0.00115 a day of 0.0345 btc a month no power cost = 276 usd

so gpus are doing about 2000-2100 after power

asics do  1500 more  3600 a month while it lasts
22540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: gpu bubble well and truly bursting on: November 19, 2017, 06:17:45 PM
Hey just had to drag this up.

 my  rigs  are earning   $$$$


https://www.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


Monthly income

0.22953600 BTC
1789.92 USD


11,300 zols  about 17 x 240 = 4.1 kwatts or 100 kwatts per day  3000 per month at 13 cents =  390 power bill  and since it is winter  the heating bill drops 110

so 280  powercost  to earn  1790 a month  net =  1510

some  videos of asics and gpu rigs

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-K1Sokgy3-4CdV_uZF8ubw?view_as=subscriber
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