Yeah, shits fucked on this site. Avoid it like the plague boys  thats a rather crude way to put it, but yes, basically that.  this guy needs to get out, like now. 4.66 BTC invested given the current situation. I'm not here to sugar coat anything. Poorly coded, bad management, and the lack of ability to do math. Recipe for the investors to lose everything. Only reason to stay around here is if you are a player that can abuse the glitches and make some bank. not saying im trying to sugar coat it, just saying the language was rather crude. but after the shady turn of events, im going to assume that crypto-games.net will not be giving anything for the bug finding(s), and considering the address in OP as a tip address. if dooglus wants to post one too ill gladly edit it into the op, the guy really deserves credit for finding some back-end bugs. Yeah, I got you. Dooglus really is good at finding bugs and he gets paid from sites regularly for it. I'm sure he wont mind too much though. Wait, so Dooglus blackmails other sites too? word it anyway you want but this was blackmail, pay my price or I release / sell the exploit that would harm not only the owner but innocent investors who probably didn't know better. right? Or am I missing something here? think what youd like, i offered to help them but they turned hostile on me, and even though i tried to keep their site's name hidden, they went and let it out themselves, causing all this. i admit i did try to sell it for a short period of time, but soon abandoned the idea, morality isnt that cheap, and i plan to keep it that way. in regards to "pay my price" or whatever, i offered 1 BTC for the bug on the +EV bets, and another 0.5 BTC for a back end bug that dooglus found, but agreeing to disclose that second part was not my decision as i had no in depth-knowledge of that bug. apparently, getting the major bug that allowed for +EV bets (32% at that) wasnt good enough, so the admin started getting rather hostile and insulting. from that last part, i was tempted to sell it or whatever, but as i said above, i abandoned the idea in 20 or so minutes, opting for the moral route. then you know, all this started. i expressed it before too, there are several other bugs that are clearly being exploited right now; i am not disclosing them especially because one individual has invested quite a large sum into the site. also, i never threatened them. |
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assuming with this hotfix, that a 99.999 is the highest obtainable roll, one player is still exploiting for a +EV using the exploit that dooglus has found:  1 - ( 1094*0.001 ) = -.094, 9.4% edge for the player. this is an absolute laughingstock at this point. |
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Yeah, shits fucked on this site. Avoid it like the plague boys thats a rather crude way to put it, but yes, basically that. this guy needs to get out, like now. 4.66 BTC invested given the current situation. I'm not here to sugar coat anything. Poorly coded, bad management, and the lack of ability to do math. Recipe for the investors to lose everything. Only reason to stay around here is if you are a player that can abuse the glitches and make some bank. not saying im trying to sugar coat it, just saying the language was rather crude. but after the shady turn of events, im going to assume that crypto-games.net will not be giving anything for the bug finding(s), and considering the address in OP as a tip address. if dooglus wants to post one too ill gladly edit it into the op, the guy really deserves credit for finding some back-end bugs. |
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Yeah, shits fucked on this site. Avoid it like the plague boys thats a rather crude way to put it, but yes, basically that. this guy needs to get out, like now. 4.66 BTC invested given the current situation. |
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rather than showing proof of ownership to a moderator, show it to the escrow provider for the transaction, also your imgur link is broken.
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seems a "Rush224" is able to bet 6666x despite the limit being 200x for now, i highly suspect that I know the bug the user is exploiting to get this multiplier value. he seems to be up about ~.33 BTC at the time of writing this post with a marginal house edge from his bets; 1 - ( 6666*0.0015) = .999, 0.1% house edge. the quick fix of adding another decimal place didnt really fix the issue completely it seems. ( 0.992/6666 ) = 0.0001488148 what a difference that small amount makes... same deal with Russel434, around 0.02 up at the time of writing this; betting 1094x.  |
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no collateral no loan, and the least you could do is to prove that you own the address you "withdrew 0.2 BTC to" by signing a message from that address.
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Video of ~3000 rolls. Tried to do 5000 but obviously ran out of money. I have another 10 minutes of this showing the exact same thing but chose only to upload this one for now. 1/200 chance. No winners in ~20,000 rolls. https://youtu.be/dkhkUcygZv8i think you mean memory (nvm, bankroll, got it.). anyways, this kind of variance is highly unlikely. |
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Wow, I've been gone a couple of days and all this happens? Guess I need to catch up. Pretty huge mess-up by the OP if you ask me.
explain where i "messed up." also, regarding the second bug that dooglus found, it could potentially be a bigger issue than it might seem at first glance, but i dont care enough to find out its potential implications. I only have basic knowledge of this bug based off what dooglus has sent me. Why would you even play here? The site is shit.
Looking at their UI if you do a bet with a 200x it shows you figures that indicate a 0% house edge. But if you actually place the bet, then follow the provably fair result: you'll see the house edge is exactly 2% (a far cry from what they promise).
The guy said it best himself, he doesn't do maths. And it shows.
from one problem to another, this is actually hilarious. |
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And thanks for negative feedback whoever gave it to me. Kiddie.
I wouldnt call quickseller of all people a "kiddie...." |
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ill take a try at it, pm me the account's profile and ill take a look.
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Yes thanks a lot. You will get your reward tomorrow, don't worry.
I will confirm in this thread when i receive it. Im confused by this thread, ofcourse i would pay to know a +ev betting strategy on something as simple as dice but i dont see how this is possible and it doesnt make sense to sell it even it it were. You have endless money anyway.
you wouldn't be confused if you read last few pages... anyway the story has reached its climax, it was fun!  Ok well i punched some of those numbers into primedice and i cant find any edge so far, i guess its with a different site or i need to use API access or something. it was only possible due to a rounding error, read over the last few pages of the thread and it should be explained to you. |
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rather than a virus scan, posting the source code is more preferable, virus scans dont show everything, whereas source code will. who knows what snippet of code might be hidden in there.
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Im confused by this thread, ofcourse i would pay to know a +ev betting strategy on something as simple as dice but i dont see how this is possible and it doesnt make sense to sell it even it it were. You have endless money anyway.
you wouldn't be confused if you read last few pages... anyway the story has reached its climax, it was fun! yup, looks pretty much finished here; and hopefully, future dice site owners can learn from this and alter their script to prevent such a bug from existing again. I don't expect to pe paid anything after the recent events, but in the case they decide to be moral or whatnot, the address is in the OP, and 30% of anything sent there by crypto-games will be given to dooglus for his help. regardless, there was substantial PR damage done. |
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Are you going to pull the site down while you apply the fix or are you just going to leave it up for fair play?
the site should be taken down for the investors' sake until a fix can be applied; if there were no investors, this decision would be completely be up to dogecoinmachine and joter85, but with investors being affected, i would say there is only 1 clear choice here. |
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lol, i like how some people are taking advantage and using hufflepuff as their nick
now this i gotta see this might be a little off-topic but I'll bite I can't help but notice that your personal message say "literally hufflepuff". I assume that is a joke? i couldnt help myself, it was perfect. and yes, it is a joke. if i were actually hufflepuff id be out in the carribean on my private island. I was the Hufflepuff on Crypto-Games.net. I assumed since the owner/representative was telling us that it was all good and nothing was wrong that we were invited to freely play on his website, and I thought the name Hufflepuff was funny. Since he has admitted he was wrong and there was a flaw, I have turned off the autoplay program and will not play it anymore. curious, how many bets did you get in before stopping? id like to see what the variance was for what you bet during that time. |
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lol, i like how some people are taking advantage and using hufflepuff as their nick
now this i gotta see this might be a little off-topic but I'll bite I can't help but notice that your personal message say "literally hufflepuff". I assume that is a joke? i couldnt help myself, it was perfect. and yes, it is a joke. if i were actually hufflepuff id be out in the carribean on my private island. |
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Yeah sorry. Had a flaw in simulator... it is fixed now and can reproduce this issue.
Are you ready for your Walk of Shame? Lol I couldn't help myself   i love you for giving me a good laugh right now. that aside, with this, i expect this to be patched within the next hour of furious coding. |
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It really does not matter what the house edge is. As long as it is positive then your bankroll will be bleed dry eventually. It can be .01% or 35%, it really doesn't matter. After enough rolls at the certain bet then you will lose. Now that it is public, I am sure that more people are going to be quick to try to exploit it, so don't be surprised when the number of rolls that people are doing is going substantially up all of a sudden but your site's earnings seems to be going down.
This unfortunately is true as well, if more number of users going for those higher payouts chasing +EV, the sooner your bankroll will dry. I wouldn't matter much if someone was doing it individually, but now collectively your bankroll is at risk. Its not a very time consuming fix, I am sure you can do it asap. simply changing the multiplier to be dependent on the win chance should be a nice and easy fix for this issue, currently the win chance is set by the multiplier which is set by the player, causing the rounding issue. lol, i like how some people are taking advantage and using hufflepuff as their nick
now this i gotta see |
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Im not sure that do you even understand whats +EV means? Basically you dont need to run a simulation or whatsoever because you just need a simple math for it. If you dont trust this math, I wonder how do you able to code this site on the first hand.
Also some advice for you, if someone like dooglus pointed that there is a flaw in your code then there is a flaw with it since he never claim anything without proper math or test
P.S : you havent answered my question, will you give substrata his bounty? He had posted his address if you are not aware of it yet
1 btc is not something i like to keep on a hot wallet i use for everyday transactions, ill be setting up a new address in the next few minutes and quoting it in the OP. disregard the other address. : -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- today is the third of July, this is subSTRATA of bitcointalk.org claiming this address to be a payout address at the request of quickseller in regards to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.140-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1PfR7yoo6ttNezCQd3NP5fcEhfGGrD456v H3tKhOWaZNZrQ5z+PfirEPdNRJBgfU9moMt+xBgJ/sTieXksdFEV8SopIv1XC4Js+vwylo76UnN97ZFbRrm5MV8= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- |
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