You're wrong. Do some more research, chargebacks can happen upto 6 months after a transaction is made and if you have a CC or a bankaccount attached to it, paypal will get your money from there.

You're right about one thing, you are much better protected using ebay/paypal but only IF you are the buyer, if you are the seller you have to prey and hope the buyer isn't a thief.

I'm not hostile to the idea of buying using paypal/ebay, but selling through there is plain stupid.

They're not allowing this, thats why it's a helluva deal to buy bitcoins at ANY price on ebay because you can simply reverse the transaction after upto 6months, and the idiot seller will be left with a closed paypal/ebay account (if it was already empty they'll charge his RL bank account) and his btc's gone.

I can't believe Ebay is allowing this.  Won't PayPal arbitrarily reverse the transactions and leave sellers hanging?

Do you wear a helmet out in public?

I'm just wondering what type of person buys, now, at $16... when there's a few thousand in BTC moving around and the USD is probably not likely to follow it nearly as quick. Not saying that BTC is going to tank, but now is a pretty terrible time to be buying.

Aw man, see what I'm talking about? This post got way too long.

Point granted, I am regularly amused by your quality posts by the way. I was just put off by his own trollish behavior and the slight hypocrisy in these misspellings.

Given that the thread is so long I skimmed a lot of it, if I had noticed her misspelling I no doubt would have pointed it out as well. Not that this is a decent behavior that adds to the community, I'm just saying, equal treatment and all.

There is no way to prove otherwise, so all I can really do here is say that that honestly had absolutely nothing to do with it. I'm just a fellow long-winded talker who often corrects things that I feel need to be corrected because of simple compulsion, and understood why she was doing what she was doing. You have no reason to believe this, but it doesn't really matter anyway.

Well, I'm definitely not here to troll and it would be appreciated if you would stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a troll. Yes, I was being mocking, and that was unnecessary, but hey, I'm a human.

However, I do have very good grammar and general handle on the English language and assuming you're willing to put aside the brief personal differences and are actually serious about this, I'd be interested in filling the position. I'm obviously pedantic to a degree and have noticed typos in all sorts of websites that should know better. (I don't think perfect spelling is intrinsic in any way, I'm not stupid, but it's an arbitrary standard that when not followed implies an unprofessional business.)

Some people just naturally write long posts like that. I've tried to keep my posts somewhat shorter on here but if you checked my post history you'd see a couple posts that go on longer than the typical post.

It usually goes like "Oh, hey, someone's misguided on the internet, I'll write a short but detailed post to helpfully show something", and then as you write it, you realize there's so much detail that you don't want to leave out, and about 30 minutes later you've got a nice long post on your hands detailing much more than you intended.

Does she need a motive? She's human, is she not? Just a bit more literate and completion-oriented than you, it seems. Hell, even this relatively short post is going on much longer than I thought it would.

She gave you good advice. You ignored it, questioned her motives, and went on with this silliness.

So basically, you are too amateur to properly run this. I also like how you spelled "grammar" "grammer" in the original post. Nice.

Edit: And "excepting" instead of "accepting". Apparently you will accept shares from anyone, aside from shares from investors, which you are excepting.

Who hosts VOD services without bandwith limitations? (serious question! i really would like to know and ask for their conditions)

With SWF you can reduce the traffic on classic video download sites, because the user can play the videos online and skip to the part where he wants to fap to and doesn't need to download gigabytes. Bandwith prices were also the reason why Brazzers for example had there HD videos limited in the beginning, users had to pay extra $$$ if they wanted HD. Then they implemented HD streaming and everyone can now download HD without extra payment. They didn't do this just for the user, they did it because it reduced the bandwith usage. But this scenario doesn't apply to a cam site, you can't skip a minute forward there. In the beginning it sure won't be a problem on a cam site but if the sites lifts up...any Hoster will contact you sooner or later if you hit their bandwith limit....they will "kindly ask" to discuss new contract conditions ...that's at least my experience ^^,

You judge this by your home dsl flatrate? for servers you (sadly) have to pay for their bandwith

Sure, let us all know how that works out for you.

To anyone actually considering and capable of undertaking this project, I'd offer the following.

A membership site requires an adult designer (3-4k) and a custom CMS (2-4k), a membership management script capable of taking Bitcoin (1k if hardened). It makes no sense to offer shares (recurring income) for a one time expense.

If you build a site, it will then be on the radar of the large players- that's where they look. They think it terms of competing websites- not competing apps. So you've just substantially shortened your lead by announcing that your business model will work on their websites just fine. So their coders will get cracking. This website won't get any traffic without an affiliate program, that cuts into profits and requires a large advertising budget to get the word out to potential affiliates (1k month).

This is one of the problems with businesses started with outside capital- it's easy to spend other peoples money. If it was their own money the developers would come up with something simple and clever, if they have funding- lets have a money fight. If they don't get sacks of money, they claim they can't start anything because no one will fund them.

A simple App website advertising it's functionality (if you use the same UI designer as the app it saves money), and providing a Market link is sufficient. Ideally it's creation would be paid for by income generated from just the initial Android app. Done properly it requires more skill and planning than it does capital. The other guys always have more capital so it's a lousy tool to try and compete with.

All you need is a mobile app programmer, a lawyer and probably a UI designer- the latter two are a one time expense. There's really no need management or any additional staff beyond a single developer/owner. No one else is needed and they will just cannibalize profits and hurt growth. There is no reason this can't be bootstrapped by a single developer. The other skills required are modest, one time expenses.

No, I act that way when people are not just dismissive- but rude to those who take the time to offer professional, qualified advice.


Look, anyone who wants to do this for real just ignore Vegetta's silly bloated proposal and get Mobile app coder and a lawyer.

1. The first hurdle for cams is talent. First you need to lower the barriers for entry to them. Right now, between faxed releases and IDs it's at least a week- plenty of time to change their mind or be talked out of it. You want impulse, low barrier adoption. Cute 20-something are interesting going shopping now- regular income and sitting around is a tough sell (attendance in most Adult businesses goes up 20% the last week, and down 20% the first week of the month because of rent money- few workers have any savings or any interest in it). Quick cash for what they want, and what they can't get under current business models.

2. Most men who buy porn, cohabitant.

1 and 2 have been the case for quite some time, the following are recent developments that the industry has not moved to take advantage of due to legacy technology investments and complacency.

3. Most hot girls, don't use computers anymore- this is key. Only three of my ladies own computers at home- and all are avid internet users.

4. Wireless cellular broadband is widespread, and cheap.

5. The most recent generation of smartphones have a front facing camera and support two way video chat.

6. The rear, built in high resolution cameras are of sufficient resolution to photograph anf upload an ID.

7. With text scrolling on the screen, the front facing camera can record and upload a video of a model reciting an oral contract.

8. Bitcoin is the ideal- and only practical means of payment as getting merchant account approval for the above would be nearly impossible. The product is unique enough that clients would have an incentive to tackle Bitcoin adoption hurdles. The product is largely made possible by the introduction of Bitcoin.

9. It would not even be necessary to charge a percentage. The ladies would be willing to accept fairly low exchange rates simply for convenience. If they on a moments notice they can put their phone on the end of the bad for 20 minutes, and make either 2BTC or go spend $20 instantly in Amazon- nearly all will choose the later. Shipping would go to the name and address on the photo ID- helping to ensure it's veracity.

10. Pull based. Instead of 20 women waiting around for an 8 hour shift for some guys to show up (and expecting to be compensated for such), they can receive phone notification when the surfer to performer ratio drops below a certain level. During these times which would be more lucrative to be on cam, and increase their average earnings per hour by allowing them to stay offline during off-peak times.

11. Smartphone users are a higher income demographic than computer users.

Benefits:

A single downloadable application can enable a woman to- on an impulse, start making money within minutes.

It allows men to engage in interactive adult chat without being tied to computer that their partner might walk in on.

You would not need a website, or any affiliate marketing.

No need to deal with talent management and associated headaches.

The ladies working from home, when they choose, without set hours would be considered "Independent"- this would have market appeal.

There are no larger players that could take your market share due the the way the app adoption works- you will have far more downloads, more installs, so will maintain a lead over any late comers. You will also be able to stay ahead of the development curve, leaving them to play catch up.

Comparatively low startup costs and monthly overhead. A single server, running Red or Wowza, a single- if somewhat complex app that can be reverse engineered from parts of other already existing apps. A single Android version would suffice to get ones foot in the door. iOS would obviously be an issue.

Minimal staff- the only labor is approving IDs, most of the rest a clever coder could automate.

There is not a single 2-way Adult webcam mobile chat app available at the moment. Easily publicity with a single press release.

If you can't do this project, then have a look at this one to get some ideas.

Or you can pull a Vegetta, piss on professional insight, ignore the market, try and beat the best of the best at a cut-throat business they've been doing for a decade, offering same product but with the additional hassle of a currency no one uses.