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For reference, in some testing I did a couple months back, one of my A10-7890k (might have been a 7860k, but it's the same iGPU only the CPU differs) was good for about 11 sol/s on ZCash on the iGPU running then-current Claymore - for comparison, a HD 7750 I tested at the same time on the same software was more like 55-60 despite having the SAME number of cores and the SAME clock rate.
The current top A12 model in theory might be half again that high, or even a little more due to faster RAM - but I dount it would exceed 20 noticeably if at all.
YOUR APUs are the old Terrascale stuff - about the only thing they MIGHT be able to mine on the iGPU is XMR - they'd actually be better off ignoring the iGPU and just mining with the CPU cores.
Very little mining software works at all on Terrascale, and it tends to not work well - when I tested one of my A10-5700 on ZEC it didn't manage 2 sol/s.
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You could also use a "ferrite core" type meter that slips a large inductive current reading toroid over the cord of each miner.
A lot of them connect to the power line for voltage to run the meter on, and to read that voltage so they can give you a wattage output.
I've seen them get FAIRLY cheap though the accuracy of the cheap ones isn't all that great.
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Auto tune PREdates the 14/16nm miner generation.
Spondoolies SP20 (28nm) and probably most if not all of the other Spondoolies models.
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L6-30R is probably the most common PDU plug type by a wide margin.
It can often be less expensive to wire up multiple 6-15 or 6-20 outlets to that same 220 line so you don't NEED a PDU though.
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Yeah, that 1080ti is going to cool a TON better with no DVI connector and so much less blockage. I was like WTF is wrong with him? I am sure you thought the same thing.  But the mystery has been solved . Well, I did say "IF" it had the same cooling. 9-) |
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]The rear fan on my L3+ was not working when I received it on 20th July, I shipped it out for replacement soon after, until today I still haven't received anything from them yet.
So you lost out on over a month and a half of mining over a fan? I can see chips not working but honest question, why didnt you just buy a fan? My thought exactly! This kind of fan shouldn't cost more than $20 (vs. $1500+ lost from 1.5 months of not mining)... $25-$30 actually - but STILL not worth the lost income. |
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And like ALL BURST calculators, that one is very optimistic. Not that it is the fault of the calculator - the issue appears to be that the BURST network size doesn't get measured correctly, due to how pools and wallets report their "total size" for a user with more than one machine working on BURST. Based on many months of mining BURST, take any figure out of a BURST calculator, cut it in HALF, and you've got a reasonable to a BIT low estimate of actual earnings. |
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The basics for merged FLDC + CURE folding is simple.
Set up a folding account for FLDC per their instructions.
Then join the Curecoin Team and sign up for the cryptobullions pool using that folding account.
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This is an old coin,i guess this month people will jump on it and raise it to 1-2$
any basis for that or just wishful thinking ?  Wistful thinking isn't a basis? 8-O |
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Yes, you CAN earn good money today with crazy-high electric rates - but that is NOT the norm, and has only been the case TWICE in the history of Cryptocoin to date.
10-12/2013 2-4/2016 3-6/2017 :-) Also 4/2013 What was supposedly high profit in the Feb-Apr 2016 timeframe, even in the same BALLPARK as the last 4 months? Ditto April 2014 - X11 profitability had already collapsed by then and Scrypt collapsed a month or two before X11 did (to be fair that 10-12 2013 should be more like 10/2013-2/2014 approximately) |
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It sounds like there is some skepticism on the 7 nm. Do you think the Japanese firm claiming they'll be out with a 7 nm next year is full of hot air or do you take them serious? Unlike most people on this list, I am in the chip biz. I cannot say much. I can say this: A US$300M investment in a 7nm-based chip design will get you pretty much that. Then you'll need more money to get your chips fabbed and you systems built and installed and everything else. A few $millions will go a long way towards physical plant for installation, but it takes a lot of money to play in the 7nm game. There were some comments in this thread about the move from 22/20nm to 16nm. The 20nm node was largely skipped by the industry because 16nm node added so much value with the introduction of finFETs, that it wasn't worth it to continue investing in 20nm. The 16nm node still has a ways to go, and has had a number of rounds of refinements. I don't know which actual 16nm process is being used by BMT, but they could probably get some mileage just by re-spinning into a newer 16nm process. If they cared about improving the product. However they're in a situation where they can sell all they can make, and price is hardly an object right now, so why waste the engineering resources? 7nm is a huge wall to climb for anyone, and I don't think anyone's going to be building a 7nm miner for at least another year, maybe 2. If someone does come along and proves me wrong, I'll buy it. 22nm is big in the memory industry and was for Intel, but most others skipped it as it wasn't ENOUGH of an improvement over well-optimised 28nm to be worth the hugh development costs. I'm pretty sure that Japanese company is way optimistic on their announced timeframe - not so much blowing smoke but haven't looked at ALL the factors. |
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Yeah, that 1080ti is going to cool a TON better with no DVI connector and so much less blockage. |
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What are you guys using for centralized monitoring and management?
I see awesomeminer and ethmonitor.
Any other options that might be cheaper?
If you use ETHpool or Flypool, and set each miner up with it's own name, the POOL make a fairly good and FREE monitor. |
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If they're doing 7nm, they sure as shootin' won't be available next year.
Tail end of 2018 perhaps - but VERY unlikely. Note that Intel has been working on their 10nm process for YEARS longer than anyone has been working on 7nm, and STILL has not released their first 10nm product (though I think they DID finally announce a fairly firm "when" date recently). There has also been quite a bit of industry-wide talk about how "7nm" from different folks is likely to show a TON of variation on real feature size and projected efficiency. The recent TSMC "12nm" process that is actually nothing more than a minor upgrade of their previous "16nm" process work that DID NOT CHANGE THE ACTUAL FEATURE SIZE is a specific example. It's also good to keep track of previous "available when" vs "actually producing chips" history - 14/16nm in particular was supposedly available almost 2 YEARS before actual PRODUCTION chips started rolling off the lines into products. |
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Gpu cards with 4GB gddr memory will be good forsome time, 5years at least
Nope. At recent DAG growth rate, the DAG file should exceed 4 GB somewhere in 2019. DAG files only apply to ETH and it's offshoots like ETC - no other cryptocoin needs anywhere near that much GPU memory available. |
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Is this still profitable to hdd mine?
I would say you cannot earn much from burst mining now because of high difficulty now, but it required very little electricity power from hard disk, I have turned all my unused hard disk space to burst plotter files in my mining rig. Since my mining rig will run 24/7, so I just need to pay the little bill to mine burst. It does make sense to set up unused HD space on a 24/7 dedicated mining machine to point at BURST. Otherwise, it's getting VERY iffy of late - estimated time to achieve 100% ROI even on an 8TB Seagate External drive is pushing 2+ years any more. |
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Guys is this normal? Chance to find a block: 0.00047% ?
That seems low. I'm pool mining at burst.btfg.space with 600GB of HDD.
600 Gigabytes is VERY SMALL for a BURST miner. Most folks measure their BURST mining machines in TERRAbytes - some of the "biggest" miner machines use 3 digits in front of that "Terrabytes". Poloniex has been having major issues for many MONTHS now, widely reported. I would STRONGLY advise not using them for anything. |
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Going by commentary out of IBM, *THEIR* 7nm process will be using a "hybrid" Silicon/Germanium wafer.
No solid word out of anyone else except an Intel comment that "10nm will be the end of the line for pure silicon".
Economic reality is that no miner maker will be making new gear on the new node(s) for a while, but that they WILL have to make the move for competative reasons probably 2 years more-or-less from now when the new node(s) start getting affordable yield figures and the relative efficiency has become known between them.
If the new nodes take longer to deploy than the current projections (like the 14/16nm generation did), it could be 3-5 years before miner makers will be ABLE to move to them.
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GPU mining WAS pretty much dead for a while except if you had VERY VERY cheap electric - and even THEN it wasn't making much.
It is unlikely to completely die in the forseeable future, the question is "is it going to be profitable for the large majority of folks that do NOT have well under 5c/kwh power cost".
Well maybe depends on what card you have. My 1080 ti's are earning positive at a 20 cent a kwatt summer rate. And My winter rates will drop to 10 cent on OCT 1st. 1080ti (and the rest of the Pascal or even Maxwell Nvidia cards) didn't exist at the time, and price on coins was a LOT lower than the last few months. Yes, you CAN earn good money today with crazy-high electric rates - but that is NOT the norm, and has only been the case TWICE in the history of Cryptocoin to date. |
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Long running scam, they resuse the same picture and update the numbers occasionally to make their vaporware seem good.
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