Another good way to get a quick handle on what the crypto market is doing is by paying attention every day to the Market Cap ( CryptoCurrency Market Capitalization) as shown at the top of the CoinMarketCap homepage. Today it is around $133B (133,268,725,237 billion dollars), which by itself that number is useless. But if tomorrow the number is $140B or maybe $125B you'll know if things are up or down, and how much, before ever even seeing any single coin's price. Also since I knew the Market Cap was down by around $10B from a couple days ago, it was no surprise at all to see that all coins had a down day. And if you don't spend everyday on coinmarketcap, remembering the last MarketCap will help to catch you up quick after a break. We're in for a long bear market I think. The chinese have just suspended all trading on one of their biggest exchanges. Don't cash out now, accumulate and hodl for next year. November 2018 is the time when millionaires will be made
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Apparently China suspends all trading done on BTCC, one of its largest platforms. I think this is the start of a very long bear market. Now is the time to accumulate, once the Chinese government finds a way to profit from ICO's and cryptocurrency they'll bring it back and we'll all be rich
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China has announced BTCC will end all trading activities by the end of september. Looks like we're in for a very long bear market boys, hodl and accumulate, by this time next year we'll all be laughing all the way to the bank
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Is there a way to verify that the MNE from the Token Creation Service has been burned? Same question for the MNEs from the ICO - do I just have to believe that the tokens from the ICO will be burned or can I verify it?
Easiest way to verify this is that the total supply is reducing after the burning (after ICO at least) Otherwise call out to dev to reconfirm the burning and request proof to this if you are suspicious about the process. I think the devs are quite honest people and they'll stick by their promises. They might keep some mne to sell so they can pay for advertising. They said the contributed eth will be used to pay for the ads, but let's be honest no one will pay with eth.
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Hi Everyone, The start of the ICO is only few hours away, we would like to provide few more details about it: 1. Start TimeAs already announced, the ICO will start at 5 PM UTC (Today, September 14). To be sure about the timing you can check the counter on our website on the top right corner: http://artemine.org/2. Minimum Amounts allowed in the ICOETH: 0.1 MNE: 10 3. TransactionsFor participants on the ICO all they will have to do is to send a simple ETH or MNE transaction to the ICO Address that we will post when the ICO is live. 4. Genesis Addresses GenerationAll participants will have the address from where they sent the ETH or MNE converted into a ARTE Genesis Address (All addresses will be generated after the ICO). -> DO NOT send coins to the ICO Address from exchanges like kraken, poloniex, etc.For transparency, all the addresses along with the attributed ARTE will be visible on this page: http://genesis.artemine.org/The page will be updated in real time. Thanks!
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Yes, Bittrex need to add some real good coins. STOX have a great project but we need more volume.
When do you think STOX will be added on great exchange? and when the value increases seriously?
When the communities' demand is high enough and the dev team pays the exchange what they want
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I am sorry guys but I sold all of my MNE. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but I am planning on buying some MNE once it is something like $3.2
I am confident that there is going to be a big dump of MNE on the ICO date since all of us are just speculators. We never have any intention of using MNE and we just have it because we want to sell it. The same goes with ART.
The current price of $4.14 will not hold as it will get event lowers.
I am not trying to spread FUD here, I am just saying what everyone is thinking. We all made a mistake, we should have sold when it was high and bought again when the price crashed. Lesson learned.
I tried to believe but 1 day before the ICO start the dev going quite just broke my heart. I so wanted to believe but I can't believe like this.
Man, I wish I had your 100% accurate crystal ball, I would be rich as hell! You're actually not saying what everyone is thinking, you're saying what YOU ARE THINKING. The truth is, this project barely has legs it's so young and undeveloped. You are not investing in what the project is now, you're not investing to create your own token on minereum. You invest for what you think the project will become and you invest in the possibilities, this is crypto it's all a risk but for some reason I really think Minereum and Artemine are well worth the risk. I think the ICO being under the radar is quite appropriate for this project, what would the developer be hyping so much? He's still getting the project off the ground! I think the ICO may be premature but I also think it's a great opportunity for anyone who sees value in the project. If you don't see any value, then get out but for god's sakes don't say you're speaking for all of the investors, you just sound like an asshole. He may not be speaking for everyone but he is speaking for a lot of us. Why do you think MNE is only listed on small exchanges? Because the marketing sucks. Dev could've easily asked for a bounty campaign, but he didn't. Don't you see, there needs to be intrinsic value to a coin, otherwise it's just a pump. Ask yourself why Minereum should be priced at +5$. Ask yourself why Art would be prices at +5$. If the answer is 'speculation', then we're looking at a high risk medium reward project. Now, what if they'd have a decent roadmap and a whitepaper that's longer than the average whitepapers' introduction section? What if we knew exactly who they're gonna be working with, what they wanna do for marketing, how they plan on launching the lottery, where they stand on the world app, ... we wouldn't just be randomly speculating about 'what could happen, we'd be speculating on the results of what going to happen. Do you see the difference? If you remember, the devs talked about lauching an advertising campaign for Artemine. They didn't, and that's why we're speculating about a very, very poorly written businessplan, not about a prototype product Oh I see the difference quite easily, but this entire market is pure speculation my friend. This is just more than most people want to do, so I say again, if you don't see the value then please just go it's very easy as no one is asking you to be an investor. Time and time again I see these announcement threads turn into a shit all over the developer thread I just don't get it. Look, I totally get what you're saying. I've been involved in this market for quite a long time and I've seen some shit take place. What I'm saying is, we're having a chance to invest in a project that could be in the 100 million cap range, but not if the devs are clearly not taking it seriously. They clearly think delivering a good product will be enough to create a succesful ICO, which is wrong. As a point of reference, please read the first 12 pages of this whitepaper http://electroneum.com/overview-white-paper.pdfI'm not involved or invested in electroneum whatsoever, but I actually laughed out loud comparing this whitepaper to the Artemine whitepaper. How is it that only me and a handful of others are questioning whether or not the devs are actually gonna be losing our money? It's literally 1 hour and 10 minutes before the ICO-date, and pretty much nothing has changed since the first announcement of Artemine. 1hour and 10mins? Ico doesn't start for another 20hrs buddy Yeah I meant tomorrow is the date of the ICO
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Any news? Why neo had sudden rise?
It could be a dead cat bounce Or it could be people buying in at the bottomed out price usually there is resistance when something falls really low I think its the latter If the coin isn't dead it's no dead cat bounce, my friend
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I am sorry guys but I sold all of my MNE. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but I am planning on buying some MNE once it is something like $3.2
I am confident that there is going to be a big dump of MNE on the ICO date since all of us are just speculators. We never have any intention of using MNE and we just have it because we want to sell it. The same goes with ART.
The current price of $4.14 will not hold as it will get event lowers.
I am not trying to spread FUD here, I am just saying what everyone is thinking. We all made a mistake, we should have sold when it was high and bought again when the price crashed. Lesson learned.
I tried to believe but 1 day before the ICO start the dev going quite just broke my heart. I so wanted to believe but I can't believe like this.
Man, I wish I had your 100% accurate crystal ball, I would be rich as hell! You're actually not saying what everyone is thinking, you're saying what YOU ARE THINKING. The truth is, this project barely has legs it's so young and undeveloped. You are not investing in what the project is now, you're not investing to create your own token on minereum. You invest for what you think the project will become and you invest in the possibilities, this is crypto it's all a risk but for some reason I really think Minereum and Artemine are well worth the risk. I think the ICO being under the radar is quite appropriate for this project, what would the developer be hyping so much? He's still getting the project off the ground! I think the ICO may be premature but I also think it's a great opportunity for anyone who sees value in the project. If you don't see any value, then get out but for god's sakes don't say you're speaking for all of the investors, you just sound like an asshole. He may not be speaking for everyone but he is speaking for a lot of us. Why do you think MNE is only listed on small exchanges? Because the marketing sucks. Dev could've easily asked for a bounty campaign, but he didn't. Don't you see, there needs to be intrinsic value to a coin, otherwise it's just a pump. Ask yourself why Minereum should be priced at +5$. Ask yourself why Art would be prices at +5$. If the answer is 'speculation', then we're looking at a high risk medium reward project. Now, what if they'd have a decent roadmap and a whitepaper that's longer than the average whitepapers' introduction section? What if we knew exactly who they're gonna be working with, what they wanna do for marketing, how they plan on launching the lottery, where they stand on the world app, ... we wouldn't just be randomly speculating about 'what could happen, we'd be speculating on the results of what going to happen. Do you see the difference? If you remember, the devs talked about lauching an advertising campaign for Artemine. They didn't, and that's why we're speculating about a very, very poorly written businessplan, not about a prototype product Oh I see the difference quite easily, but this entire market is pure speculation my friend. This is just more than most people want to do, so I say again, if you don't see the value then please just go it's very easy as no one is asking you to be an investor. Time and time again I see these announcement threads turn into a shit all over the developer thread I just don't get it. Look, I totally get what you're saying. I've been involved in this market for quite a long time and I've seen some shit take place. What I'm saying is, we're having a chance to invest in a project that could be in the 100 million cap range, but not if the devs are clearly not taking it seriously. They clearly think delivering a good product will be enough to create a succesful ICO, which is wrong. As a point of reference, please read the first 12 pages of this whitepaper http://electroneum.com/overview-white-paper.pdfI'm not involved or invested in electroneum whatsoever, but I actually laughed out loud comparing this whitepaper to the Artemine whitepaper. How is it that only me and a handful of others are questioning whether or not the devs are actually gonna be losing our money? It's literally 1 hour and 10 minutes before the ICO-date, and pretty much nothing has changed since the first announcement of Artemine.
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This looks like a promising project but have a couple of questions before investing.
1) What is the teams plan if the hard cap is not reached?
2) I see the presale ends at 10PM today, which time zone is this referencing? Since you are based in Singapore I'm going to assume it's on Singapore time.
3) What is the maximum supply of coins. Is it based on the amount of ETH raised?
I can answer the third question, it's 312.000.000 coins
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I am sorry guys but I sold all of my MNE. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but I am planning on buying some MNE once it is something like $3.2
I am confident that there is going to be a big dump of MNE on the ICO date since all of us are just speculators. We never have any intention of using MNE and we just have it because we want to sell it. The same goes with ART.
The current price of $4.14 will not hold as it will get event lowers.
I am not trying to spread FUD here, I am just saying what everyone is thinking. We all made a mistake, we should have sold when it was high and bought again when the price crashed. Lesson learned.
I tried to believe but 1 day before the ICO start the dev going quite just broke my heart. I so wanted to believe but I can't believe like this.
Man, I wish I had your 100% accurate crystal ball, I would be rich as hell! You're actually not saying what everyone is thinking, you're saying what YOU ARE THINKING. The truth is, this project barely has legs it's so young and undeveloped. You are not investing in what the project is now, you're not investing to create your own token on minereum. You invest for what you think the project will become and you invest in the possibilities, this is crypto it's all a risk but for some reason I really think Minereum and Artemine are well worth the risk. I think the ICO being under the radar is quite appropriate for this project, what would the developer be hyping so much? He's still getting the project off the ground! I think the ICO may be premature but I also think it's a great opportunity for anyone who sees value in the project. If you don't see any value, then get out but for god's sakes don't say you're speaking for all of the investors, you just sound like an asshole. He may not be speaking for everyone but he is speaking for a lot of us. Why do you think MNE is only listed on small exchanges? Because the marketing sucks. Dev could've easily asked for a bounty campaign, but he didn't. Don't you see, there needs to be intrinsic value to a coin, otherwise it's just a pump. Ask yourself why Minereum should be priced at +5$. Ask yourself why Art would be prices at +5$. If the answer is 'speculation', then we're looking at a high risk medium reward project. Now, what if they'd have a decent roadmap and a whitepaper that's longer than the average whitepapers' introduction section? What if we knew exactly who they're gonna be working with, what they wanna do for marketing, how they plan on launching the lottery, where they stand on the world app, ... we wouldn't just be randomly speculating about 'what could happen, we'd be speculating on the results of what going to happen. Do you see the difference? If you remember, the devs talked about lauching an advertising campaign for Artemine. They didn't, and that's why we're speculating about a very, very poorly written businessplan, not about a prototype product
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Who could speculate here? could the price be reaching $20?
Everything is possible, depends on the demand for Mne when ICO starts. There must be a campaign machine running as of now to increase demand. Once tokens are burned during the ICO phase supply will visibly be reduced (already reduced since exchanged MNE will not hit the market anymore). Scarcity will boost the price and there is only the limit of ETH/10 that will stop it eventually. But who will create the urgency??? Not much done in terms of increasing awareness levels yet Nothing is being done. The whitepaper is shit, I could write it in less than an hour. They have no bounty campaign, which is literally free advertising. No paid ads on facebook, no articles, no communication. All they do is 'hey here are some vague updates, hope you invest in us and not in the infinitely more professional companies who already have proven that they have products that offer something real instead of pure speculation'. I believe in Minereum, I believe in Art, because I like to believe miracles are possible. What I don't believe in, are the devs. They're great with tech, but tech doesn't sell, advertising hype and fomo does. Somehow I think it's the charm of Mne, good working tech, horrible marketing. Some ICO's have horrible tech and great marketing but for the long term it will proof to be a bad investment. I thought Dev announced earlier that they teamed up with partners to do the marketing part. Maybe they have a killing plan waiting to be executed :-) I think that once the ICO starts they need to market the shit out of it. We can't do it, they have to for their own benefit as well. Personally I like the concept and the working tech. Now it's up to them to proof that they can run a business as well The products are great, definitely, but we need more investors than the previous MNE hodlers who are all waiting for lightning to strike on a sunny day. Ask 2.000 random people with a little knowledge about cryptocurrency to pick an ICO they'd like to invest in. I guarantee none will say ART, I even guarantee only 10 of them will have heard of it. That's the problem, and really the only problem IMO.
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Suddenly very quiet in here ... I have been loading up on NEO at these prices. Think the price can only go UP from here!!
Look at the candlestick pattern. There's a clear flag forming with support at 15. After that I believe triple digits aren't too far off
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IF it survives till 2022 it might reach 100.000usd/eth. We would all use it to buy tickets to go to the moon ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) That's insane, eth is a platform unlike bitcoin which is an actual currency and store of value. Eth might reach 2.000$ but it really can't go higher.
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I am sorry guys but I sold all of my MNE. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but I am planning on buying some MNE once it is something like $3.2
I am confident that there is going to be a big dump of MNE on the ICO date since all of us are just speculators. We never have any intention of using MNE and we just have it because we want to sell it. The same goes with ART.
The current price of $4.14 will not hold as it will get event lowers.
I am not trying to spread FUD here, I am just saying what everyone is thinking. We all made a mistake, we should have sold when it was high and bought again when the price crashed. Lesson learned.
I tried to believe but 1 day before the ICO start the dev going quite just broke my heart. I so wanted to believe but I can't believe like this.
I understand. People can say all they want how 'this project is incredible' and 'the devs always deliver', but guess what that's not enough. Every single day a new coin or ICO is born and the ones that make it are the ones that advertise and scream out to the world why we should buy them; they run bounty campaigns, they have paid facebook ads, they write articles, they're active on social media, they communicate, they have pre-ico sales, they provide intrinsic value to their tokens. Minereum/artemine simply don't do any of that. If a coin isn't used or demanded a lot, it's not scarce. If it's not scarce, there's literally no reason for it to gain in value. Again, people say 'oh the value will go to the moon once the mne coins get burned' guess what, the coins aren't in circulation anymore if you buy and hold. We need a ton of people using them, and I don't see how that's gonna happen if barely anyone knows the ICO is even happening tomorrow, and if they don't innovate and provide us with a decent roadmap. I could write their whitepaper in less than an hour, because it's shit. I believe in the products, I just don't believe in the devs anymore to pull it off. The only reason why I'm not selling with 200% profits right now is because I believe in miracles and because I want nothing more than to be proven wrong It is people like you who I admire. You face the truth, look at reality and still have hope in spite of it. Your hope is not blind, you have hope even when you very well know that is incredibly unlikely. This is so much better than the delusionas of other people that post there who are thinking that the communication of the dev is appropriate. Even though now I would like nothing more than the price of MNE to tank so I can be proved right, reading your post actually does not make me mind too much anymore if I am proved wrong. Stay strong. Thanks man, I hope that one day you, me, the investors and the devs all look back at this day and smile. Maybe prices go down again and back up after they get their shit together. I know they can do it, cause they've created something truly amazing, but building it is only 50% of the job. They need to take the other 50% more serious if they plan on succeeding
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Who could speculate here? could the price be reaching $20?
Everything is possible, depends on the demand for Mne when ICO starts. There must be a campaign machine running as of now to increase demand. Once tokens are burned during the ICO phase supply will visibly be reduced (already reduced since exchanged MNE will not hit the market anymore). Scarcity will boost the price and there is only the limit of ETH/10 that will stop it eventually. But who will create the urgency??? Not much done in terms of increasing awareness levels yet Nothing is being done. The whitepaper is shit, I could write it in less than an hour. They have no bounty campaign, which is literally free advertising. No paid ads on facebook, no articles, no communication. All they do is 'hey here are some vague updates, hope you invest in us and not in the infinitely more professional companies who already have proven that they have products that offer something real instead of pure speculation'. I believe in Minereum, I believe in Art, because I like to believe miracles are possible. What I don't believe in, are the devs. They're great with tech, but tech doesn't sell, advertising hype and fomo does.
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I am sorry guys but I sold all of my MNE. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but I am planning on buying some MNE once it is something like $3.2
I am confident that there is going to be a big dump of MNE on the ICO date since all of us are just speculators. We never have any intention of using MNE and we just have it because we want to sell it. The same goes with ART.
The current price of $4.14 will not hold as it will get event lowers.
I am not trying to spread FUD here, I am just saying what everyone is thinking. We all made a mistake, we should have sold when it was high and bought again when the price crashed. Lesson learned.
I tried to believe but 1 day before the ICO start the dev going quite just broke my heart. I so wanted to believe but I can't believe like this.
I understand. People can say all they want how 'this project is incredible' and 'the devs always deliver', but guess what that's not enough. Every single day a new coin or ICO is born and the ones that make it are the ones that advertise and scream out to the world why we should buy them; they run bounty campaigns, they have paid facebook ads, they write articles, they're active on social media, they communicate, they have pre-ico sales, they provide intrinsic value to their tokens. Minereum/artemine simply don't do any of that. If a coin isn't used or demanded a lot, it's not scarce. If it's not scarce, there's literally no reason for it to gain in value. Again, people say 'oh the value will go to the moon once the mne coins get burned' guess what, the coins aren't in circulation anymore if you buy and hold. We need a ton of people using them, and I don't see how that's gonna happen if barely anyone knows the ICO is even happening tomorrow, and if they don't innovate and provide us with a decent roadmap. I could write their whitepaper in less than an hour, because it's shit. I believe in the products, I just don't believe in the devs anymore to pull it off. The only reason why I'm not selling with 200% profits right now is because I believe in miracles and because I want nothing more than to be proven wrong
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Hello. We wrote an article on our website and filled out your bounty form. In the form there was only the field "Link to the article" but there were no fields "E-mail" and "Wallet", How will you be able to give us the award for the article, if approve
Bounties will be delivered after the ICO, as stated on the website
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First Self Mining Smart Contract => what is self mining ??
The coins are generated through a mathematical formula, which greatly reduces mining costs. Also, it disables the massive dumping of a coin right after getting listed on the exchanges, because there really isn't any supply of coins to dump, all there is is a very limited supply of coins that get sold each day.
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Personally, I do trust Crowdholding. This platform connects startups and the crowd, allowing them to give feedback on products, services, and ideas in return for future revenue. You can earn coins, and crowdfund you fav startup on the platform. Haha I actually was thinking about how a cryptoplatform like kickstarter with more personal feedback would be a cool idea, glad you mentioned it
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