The truth about ICOS is that all governments are looking for ways to centralize everything and get their share in big investments, we are living the new era of world monetary evolution, there will always be resistance and distortions, but we know very well what the end, It is in the interest of all Rulers. Real comes to the scene at the right time, regardless of which country you are in, the cryo is already breathing, and taking off in a promising market like real estate is being three steps ahead. I'm already a fan of the project and I follow closely. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) yeah pretty much this. governments always want to control and tax everything. that why I love crypto, it circumvents everything.
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What discounts can the users expect?
Up to 90% ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Thats a good reason to buy some SnapCoins. Getting those premium products very cheap like the Snappies now ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) wow man, 90%? I'm gonna buy a freakin' beast of a graphics card.
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They have any competitors right now? Or this niche still free? TaaS is a competitor or no?
I haven't seen any competitors of paypie in crypto world. Taas is a bit different and they are working with only crypo companies, Paypie will be on everywhere. They will work with companies not only in crypto world. This is nice in this way. If they dont have competitors, they have more chances for succes ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Not necessarily. Having competitors is good, it means you're idea has been tested and found to be successful. You don't always wanna be first to market, 'cause that means doing all the due diligence for project success.
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Can't believe that in this thread the major discussion is whether or not Cannabis should be legal or is harmfull. Thought young people who spend time here understood that Cannabis is harmless.
I would like more discussion about the actual project, how the tokens are used, etc. Though i like the project it is still a bit hard for me to visualize. I'm hoping the team can offer some concrete more concrete examples. Because i do believe this sector really offers good opportunities and we need crypto/blockchain in here for something else then just tokens to buy weed (like other Cannabis tokens are)
if the buying/selling Cannabis is illlegal,then this project may cannot run! so this is important! which is why the project will probably focus on areas where the law is on their side, as starting points.
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So, vibe will not be only for the VR videos but, for everything related to the VR tech. Right?
Pretty much yeah. Every type of VR product people can sell. I really like the concert tickets one. Seeing a concert from your game room with VR sounds awesome.
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Any news on the Beta VibeHub Web/Browser Platform scheduled for launching today?
Please stay tuned, it will be available later today ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Nice! can't wait to see it. having a product always helps with ICO
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It's a crime that such a nice herb like cannabis is criminalized from our "lovely" government. But it's time for a change I see great possibilities for this project.
And thus supporting project like this is nice example how to show people that there is nothing wrong to go a bit high ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) It's not like people haven't been doing it since the dawn of time. Legitimacy is vital for this project to grow, hope Paragon will go in that direction.
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Actually I'm re-reading the part in the whitepaper about document storage using IPFS (which is the shizzle by the way), and it seems like there's still opportunity for sending a virus.
PayPie adopts IPFS to host business and accounting related media, such as PDFs, Word documents, images, videos and larger metadata on directors, shareholders, auditors, etc.
I guess that could be solved by enforcing some kind of identification and verification rituals before sending any documents is allowed.
Surely it's not so difficult to implement a solution to scan files for malware and viruses right? These things are already done by some companies, but if not,a local solution would work as well.
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Will you develop Snapup even if not all the tokens are sold?
Or will you refund the crowdfunders?
Someone else asked the same question today, and this is what I answered: It's described on page 17 of their whitepaper. They will adapt the number of SNP each investor gets proportionally to the amount of EUR invested and the total amount of EUR raised. They have specified a soft cap of $5 million, but from the team's responses it appears they will continue with the platform no matter what. It would only be a disadvantage for those who join after this project becomes popular. The price of snapup token will be much more expensive that time. That's kinda the point of investing. Getting in before it's popular. You should be excited that you got into snapup before it get's big.
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are there any plans to store the raised money in a stable currency? fund lost close to 1 million already due to dropping eth value...
Belive me ETH will rise again. I think 500 $ is very likely this year. There are was many big ICO on August 31, thats reason ETH growed. Now this ICO sold ETH and price goind down. Ill wait lower price and buy Real ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I was expecting this to be honest. Now is the time to buy ETH as well as REAL for best price possible.
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are there any plans to store the raised money in a stable currency? fund lost close to 1 million already due to dropping eth value...
I think most ICO's just sell off their ETH to gain fiat and fund the project. That's why ETH dropped to 200 USD last month. A lot of ICO sold their ETH.
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i think snapup has good marketing campaign. look like iPhone 7 as a reward. that's good promation , sure this project will success too .
You are right. I hope they ll have good marketiong for their platform also I dont see any problem with their plan and platform, even marketing. They have done well but not getting good support from investors still. I guess people still have some doubts on the iPhone 7 giveaway which should have been cleared when they posted video on it. It's already been sent hasn't it? They've posted pics and they guy who won it confirmed in this thread.
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I like the project, the team, whitepaper, website all look professional. I'm not too into the name though ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) , maybe its just me, but the PIE part makes it sound less serious. Maybe , but it does sound better than pay-counting ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) It is an accounting project after all, most don't have catchy names.
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Instead of try to work in non-legalized markets, I think Paragon will help those countries to change their minds. It will be a good solution for governments
That's exactly what they're trying to do. Give a legitimate business face to a market that is viewed as illegal.
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Very good items, but my country banned marijuana ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Give it time my friend, give it time. In 10-20 years it will be legal in europe and then the rest of the world.
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So you will need Paypie tokens to access different aspects of platform. Will you be able to buy your tokens directly in the platform with fiat, or you will need to transfer it from some exchange?
I'm sure you'll be able to do that. It would be silly otherwise. I think the platform holders will sell the tokens on both exchanges and the platform itself.
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Unfortunately, even in the world that struggles for monetary decentralization and services, it is necessary to invest in marketing when they are empty projects. But in the case of Snap up the project speaks out only, demo, mode of operation and distribution. It's a good investment.
yeah depending on the products available it can be a great success. So far one Iphone7 sold ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Its pretty good actually. WAYY better then things like Etherdelta, Liqui or Cryptopia, those are just horrible. At least Gatecoin is already a proper exchange.
Etherdelta front end is horrible but it's a decentralized exchange. You have the private key and every exchange takes place on ethereum smart contract. This being said there is no risk of somebody running away with your money, seizure from authorities etc. There is no one behind it. Correct me if I am wrong. Even so, it's terrible to use EtherDelta. it badly needs a site redesign. I hope Real gets listed on some real(sic) exchanges.
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Hey, there's a report about ICOINFO taking a break for a while because they are getting nervous about Chinese regulations. It's a site that looks kinda similar to KickICO. Do you think this news could have any influence on KickICO, positive because of investors looking for alternatives or negative because of government meddling? those chinese regulations are often a farse. they talk much and never every happens something big, like several years ago about banning bitcoin and so on. i dont think this will have a impact on kickico, in fact, most of the chinese investors will jump onto kickico ico sale ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) as an alternative. I'm not surprised the chinese regulations are bs. a lot of time governments pump up their chest and say they're gonna do this and that, but ultimately they might even use the service they're trying to regulate. I'm sure they can see the use of bitcoin and services on the blockchain. Also most miners are chinese, they pay off the authorities to look the other way.
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What do you guys think. Will the hard cap be reached till the end of September? So far its looking good. Already more than $11m raised in not even 24h.
Hard cap will be reached probably, just the time used for it is the question. But with such a great start it is nearly certain to reach it. Considering the value of ETH continues to grow, I don't think the hard cap is far away. Maybe the dev's have factored that in.
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