If you are only interested in a Bitcoin SegWit Android wallet then check out Samourai. The developers are mainly focused on the security and privacy, it supports both nested and native SegWit. Mycelium became a bit shady some time ago.

I feel that LN will have a huge impact on the Bitcoin price in the future but we are still suffering from FUD and probably price manipulation. Also, we should not focus on the price, adoption is the most important factor here. Why do you think that LN is a bit centralized? Because of the people who connect to nodes which a huge amount of channels? Once LN network grows, it won't be a problem.


That's true, you still have to broadcast a transaction to open and close the channel, but it's paying off if you are often paying some bitcoins to a specific service (instant and cheap transactions). There is a service which offers conversion from LN to on-chain funds and vice-versa without reopening a channel. As far as I remember, there is an idea which can help us to lower the size of the initial transactions - Schnorr signatures, new BIP related to this has been recently released. You should also check out Channel Factories.

Opened channels do not have any impact on the Bitcoin Network beside coins being locked up in multisig addresses.

Which android wallet are you using? I personally use Eclair but it doesn't support receiving coins over Lightning Network. I'm waiting for Android version of Zap wallet which seems to have this feature.


As you mentioned, Lightning Network is still in its early beta thus this kind of things might happen, but...


"Believe"? I doubt that he spent that much on stickers and satoshi's place, but he should have at least checked his transaction history and summed everything up before making such statement.

They are bitcoins, many people don't understand that and try to prove that Bitcoin with LN is not a real Bitcoin because it doesn't use normal coins.

Here is another good discussion on whether or not Lightning Network is centralized.


I don't really get "the problem" you mentioned. That's how I think it worked: 1. Someone created a node and decided to open a channel with that node 2. Bitcoins were sent to a multi-signature address which private keys are in control of both parties. 3. Someone else opened the channel to the same node and it was possible to start sending transactions across decentralized LN network.

There are no Lightning Network tokens. Each party is transacting with each other without broadcasting anything to the Bitcoin network. Everything is settled down once someone decides to close the channel. The biggest issue right now is that channel limits how much you can spend. Split payments are a planned feature.

Some third party apps seem not to work natively with the new desktop app (ETC seems to work now, NEO still doesn't). Even though I don't own a Ledger Nano S anymore, I really like the new app. I don't understand why everything always has to be white these days. I prefer dark interfaces since it's more convenient to use them in the evening.

>implying that the date of registration really means anything.

You are running out of arguments.

There is nothing like an official Lightning Network app. There are currently a few different implementations which are compatible with each other. You can try Eclair if the Zap client doesn't work for you. You could also try setting up c-lightning but this might take you some time. I would go for Eclair if you are going to stick with Windows.

It doesn't pay to cheap out, especially on a device which will store private keys of hundreds or even thousands dollars worth of crypto. So far, I have used only TREZOR One & T, Ledger Nano S and OpenDime. When it comes to money, I don't want to risk it by choosing an unknown brand, but there are people who are looking for distinguishing features such as micro sd slot, e-ink screen, small size etc. Some people prefer convenience over security.

As far as I know, WeChat is widely used in big cities. I don't think that people on the countryside use it that much.


I am quite sure that WeChat doesn't work with non-Chinese credit/debit cards. That's why tourists have problems with using it. WeChat, as you mentioned, is also a messaging app which can be used for getting the latest news.

Yes, it is. You can find it here. It's written in C++. You should not have any problems with compiling it yourself. It doesn't require much to download and the installation process is quite easy. Everything is described in the link above.

I have sold my Ledger some time ago. Can anyone make some screenshots for me or record a video?

Oh, really? I don't think so. For a long time, banks were thinking that they have no competition, but cryptocurrencies are slowly getting more reliable and widely available. Wire transfers take too long and they might be blocked by the bank. Fees have been growing without any particular reason and withdrawing a larger amount of money might be a problem. Not to mention what would happen if another financial crisis occurred. What would you choose? A platform which is centralized which makes it easier to attack or disrupt the service or a decentralized cryptocurrency which you can store where you want?

Actually, the company behind this kickstarter project is doing quite well. Their products are available here. They quickly ran out of supplies after releasing a new case for TREZOR T.

I have updated the guide a bit. Coolwallet.io doesn't load for me anymore so I can't get any official information about it.

The number of topics related to hardware wallets is constantly growing. I don't think if there is any point in creating separate sections for each hardware wallet, one section should be enough.



That's barely half of the topics on the first page of the Alternative clients section.

I don't really see any point in creating that many cryptocurrency exchanges. Are we even going to reach so high volume that we will see thousands of exchanges? Some people prefer to use the most popular exchanges which are not based in their country because they trust them. And why do they trust them? We are discussing this problem here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4595850.msg41474831#msg41474831

It looks like they have just released an update (2.1.1). Could you check if passphrases work properly? According to their reddit, every device from the last batch will have that update pre-installed.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/8vzyk4/ledger_blue_are_now_available_on_our_website_get/e1ro81z

What about advising people that they should withdraw their funds if they are not going to trade in the next few days? I have noticed that many signature campaign participants used exchanges because of high transactions fees back then. Currently, exchanges have extremely high withdrawal fees. Was it the only reason? Aren't some people just too lazy to do a research and choose a proper wallet?

Also, recommending splitting the investment among a few different exchanges at the same time might be a good idea but not everyone will follow this advice due to lack of funds.

It's easier for them to ask for money, isn't it? Proper education takes years depending on what someone is capable of.


It's funny to see some poor people in my surrounding who say that cryptocurrencies are a scam. Funnier thing is that they want the rich to pay higher taxes just because they managed to earn some money. Everyone should pay the same percentage of their income as a tax.

I don't really see any point in creating new exchanges, the volume is one of the most important factors for an exchange to succeed. Probably, you know a service called ShapeShift which allows for direct exchanges between limited number of cryptocurrencies.  Face-to-face transactions are great for cashing out without worrying about the tax office, I have never traded crypto-to-crypto with another person. I am going to test Bisq (decentralized exchange) in the near future but the low volume discourages me a bit.

Thanks for your suggestions. I will look through them and decide which ones are worth attention and trust.


You are right, the title is a bit misleading but my initial plan was to describe the advantages of each wallet and compare them. I will do it along with the addition of new wallets.

By the way, the last batch of 10 thousand Ledger Blue is available for sale. I still don't know if there is any point in including it here.

Did you even bother to read the whole thread? The package arrived to his office intact and he saw that someone has already opened it. There is no point in contacting the manufacturer because it's not their fault.

You should be safe if you installed the firmare by yourself and generated the seed. It looks like the person who opened your package didn't know what to do with it.
Remember to check your seed (it's available on TREZOR wallet page) because you will need it to recover your coins.