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2321  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
kazuki, & the other Monero and 1MB pimps.

I think this makes us about even: you were a few months before me in shifting from silver to BTC, and I was a little bit before you in the transition from BTC to Monero.
2322  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 08, 2015, 05:58:43 PM
I use moderation as a gauge of credibility.
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Moderation of a thread is for weak-ass losers IMHO.
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censorship

Every reasonably advanced thread is indistinguishable from magic, and therefore attracts non-intelligence and trolls like a honeypot. Letting them destroy the vestiges of readable discussion that might once have existed, is your holy commission.  Huh

Bet you don't even have a thread as you seem not to care about your readers even that much  Embarrassed Tongue
2323  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: June 08, 2015, 03:22:06 PM
Armstrong's pandemic model expects one of some yet unspecified scale 2018ish. Should rear its head in 2017. He did also predict the current ebola epidemic would be contained and die down.

Vaccination weakens the immune system, and makes you susceptible to diseases spread by further vaccination.

Let it sink in.

There is already a push for mandatory vaccines, and many places have mandatory vaccines "in case of emergency". I strongly urge to NOT take any vaccines forced on you at gunpoint, and to escape the shot, you need to prepare accordingly, possibly get to a higher ground in advance.
2324  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: June 08, 2015, 02:06:55 PM
I would like to see that experiment performed, (along with a real photo of a satellite in space)

The report is detailed enough to replicate it at home. The main source for instructions in this case.

Youtube is also full of videos under "party levitation".

The quest is to increase the antigravity field strength by a factor of 3, so that the object becomes weightless.

have you attempted this?

So far my only scientific experiment was the one with the report attached (above). The next one will be with precision scale and at least one guy videoing the experiment, which requires a 5-6 member team in total. It has been theoretized in the 'net that a 33% reduction in apparent weight can be achieved by mind over matter tricks, which of course is fascinating, but I'd like to see a measurable reduction in gravity rather.
2325  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: June 07, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVROBhwHUM&spfreload=10

This very brilliant guy Tellinger is advocating the society based on small communities that voluntarily send a part of their produce to the neighbors. Yet there is no money, no barter, no trade nor value involved.

It will become possible via higher consciousness, he says.

I say that even a higher consciousness cannot alleviate the economic calculation problem which makes it possible to construct a pencil, involving 80 phases of work, and sell it 12 for a dollar. The most important reason why we have money is to enable economic calculation and whenever someone ignores it yet talks about abundance, he does not know what he is talking about.

Tellinger says money is evil, I say the love of money is evil. Thoughts?
2326  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: June 07, 2015, 06:49:11 AM
Levitation and antigravity will facilitate the knowledge age:

I used to levitate quite often (in my mind). Ahem, I 'm not sure if I was awake or not. Would it matter if I was?

I am more into solving the engineering problem by levitating objects. Human levitation comes in many flavors and I believe all have their distinct uses.
2327  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: June 07, 2015, 12:06:30 AM
I would like to see that experiment performed, (along with a real photo of a satellite in space)

The report is detailed enough to replicate it at home. The main source for instructions in this case.

Youtube is also full of videos under "party levitation".

The quest is to increase the antigravity field strength by a factor of 3, so that the object becomes weightless.
2328  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: June 06, 2015, 10:24:36 PM
Levitation and antigravity will facilitate the knowledge age:

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Anti-gravity field induced levitation of a kettlebell

Experiment report


Conclusion: Two people were able to cause an apparent 33% temporary weight (gravity) reduction on an iron kettlebell.

Background: Earlier experiments with a ~20 kg girl had ended inconclusive whether gravity reduction had been achieved. Further experiments were conducted in earth surface level with objects of known weight.

Setting:
Two iron kettlebells, 16 kg and 24 kg were tested if two people can lift them by extending the arm and placing two extended fingers below the handle from opposite sides and then lifting vertically. It was possible to lift the 16 kg using considerable effort, the 24 kg was too heavy to be moved.

Experiment:
The 24 kg kettlebell (henceforth called "object") was put on a stand about 70 cm high and confirmed that it cannot be moved with the technique described.

Two males constructed an antigravity field by positioning themselves to the NE and SW directions from the object. No special preparations were made except the positioning. There were metal items on the levitators and around the room. The room was earth surface level, with a basement floor beneath.

The antigravity field was vested on the object by person "A" putting his left hand upon the handle, then person "B" left hand, then "A" right hand, then "B" right hand. The hands of the same person did not touch each other. The object was pressed down with moderate force while the levitators counted to 10 in Finnish.

After "10" sounded, the levitators removed the hands from the object and put two fingers each through the handle of the object. They then proceeded to lift it about 40 cm from the stand, using considerable effort, and then returned it into the stand with ease.

Then they danced around for about 30 seconds touching each other, the object and other objects randomly and tried to lift it up again. It was not possible.

Result:
The method described had caused the 24 kg kettlebell to temporarily lose so much weight that it was possible to lift it, as had been possible for the 16 kg kettlebell. The effort required felt approximately equal to that of lifting the 16 kg kettlebell, so the object had apparently lost 33% of its weight.

Discussion:
The result is significant as it was a product of pure experiment. We did not have any guide on how to construct the antigravity field with only 2 people. There are possibly loads of things in the preparations that could have been done, and when done properly, can increase the strength of the field and the gravity reduction.

Also the goal to achieve zero or negative gravity when the circumstances are correct seems achievable.

Further tests:
To efficiently measure the antigravity, the next experiment will include a scale.
2329  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: June 06, 2015, 10:19:32 PM
Anti-gravity field induced levitation of a kettlebell

Experiment report


Conclusion: Two people were able to cause an apparent 33% temporary weight (gravity) reduction on an iron kettlebell.

Background: Earlier experiments with a ~20 kg girl had ended inconclusive whether gravity reduction had been achieved. Further experiments were conducted in earth surface level with objects of known weight.

Setting:
Two iron kettlebells, 16 kg and 24 kg were tested if two people can lift them by extending the arm and placing two extended fingers below the handle from opposite sides and then lifting vertically. It was possible to lift the 16 kg using considerable effort, the 24 kg was too heavy to be moved.

Experiment:
The 24 kg kettlebell (henceforth called "object") was put on a stand about 70 cm high and confirmed that it cannot be moved with the technique described.

Two males constructed an antigravity field by positioning themselves to the NE and SW directions from the object. No special preparations were made except the positioning. There were metal items on the levitators and around the room. The room was earth surface level, with a basement floor beneath.

The antigravity field was vested on the object by person "A" putting his left hand upon the handle, then person "B" left hand, then "A" right hand, then "B" right hand. The hands of the same person did not touch each other. The object was pressed down with moderate force while the levitators counted to 10 in Finnish.

After "10" sounded, the levitators removed the hands from the object and put two fingers each through the handle of the object. They then proceeded to lift it about 40 cm from the stand, using considerable effort, and then returned it into the stand with ease.

Then they danced around for about 30 seconds touching each other, the object and other objects randomly and tried to lift it up again. It was not possible.

Result:
The method described had caused the 24 kg kettlebell to temporarily lose so much weight that it was possible to lift it, as had been possible for the 16 kg kettlebell. The effort required felt approximately equal to that of lifting the 16 kg kettlebell, so the object had apparently lost 33% of its weight.

Discussion:
The result is significant as it was a product of pure experiment. We did not have any guide on how to construct the antigravity field with only 2 people. There are possibly loads of things in the preparations that could have been done, and when done properly, can increase the strength of the field and the gravity reduction.

Also the goal to achieve zero or negative gravity when the circumstances are correct seems achievable.

Further tests:
To efficiently measure the antigravity, the next experiment will include a scale.
2330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: June 06, 2015, 04:14:46 PM
the developers should first focus on real developent , instead of making some stupid nonsense childish game Roll Eyes

what do you mean?

He means that CK is threatening his worldview in which all the cryptocoins should exist as speculative instruments only, without any use or purpose, real or virtual.
2331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 05, 2015, 08:11:31 AM
If I am not mistaken, it is traders who are taking short or long positions, not the platform.

If they play honestly, correct.

But even if they play honestly, we need to remember that if somebody just puts a floor at 0.004 for example, clearing all below that with a market order and refusing the price to go below that value, all the current shorts are burned and their margins evaporated. It is possible that the squeeze sends the price very high IF the platform decides to buy back the losses (they become the losses of the platform when the account holders are wiped out - they just abandon the accounts, but the lenders must be paid nevertheless).

Nobody operating a platform would do that. They rather start operating a fractional reserve, don't tell anyone, and pray that the price will recede and they can buy back later.

The operating of a margin trading platform for an altcoin is akin to walking the narrow path between insane and suicidal.
2332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 03, 2015, 09:48:32 AM
Where can you observe the total longs vs. shorts?

I think it is not possible unless you have some coins waiting and you can see that nobody is shorting but bitcoins will be borrowed almost within heartbeat.

The leverage game hinges on the integrity of the platform. If the platform is not running fractional reserve, and the safety margins are large enough, then the short squeeze can possibly be epic, because the number of entities who have enough bitcoins to trigger it is enormous, yet the number and value of XMR that can hinder it is limited. All shorts lose everything.

But if the platform is corrupt, then they will just create more XMR in their system in the event of a squeeze, tapering it off, and hoping they can recoup the position later by buying in their system and canceling the bought XMR against their undisclosed short. If the recouping does not work out, they have a systemic short position, and they can only play time with restricting withdrawals until the eventual happens - they don't have any XMR in their wallets, yet do have them in the system, people cannot withdraw, and it goes down in flames. This is a widely accepted theory of Mt.Gox fall.

A successful long squeeze is possible only in the event that the coin is tending towards zero for its own merits. Even if it drops to zero in a platform, as long as the platform is honest, this will just be an incredible opportunity for the believers to amass more coins. It does not make the coin valueless, any more than the Mt.Gox hack in 2011 made BTC valueless (the system price dropped to 0.01 during the event, from the previous value of about $17).

Of course real XMR selling pressure or shorting pressure can depress the price such that longs are forced to liquidate by the system rules, and this will cause them to suffer losses. But the winners in this case are not the shorters, as the price will bounce back, and obtaining the sold/shorter XMR back without spiking the price more is really difficult. The winners are the patient buyers who just get to buy cheaper.

I advise against participating in the margin game, because historically there is no much evidence that the platforms can deliver in a black swan event. So if you lose, you lose; if you win, the bank loses, and therefore you also lose. Even keeping any value in platforms that enable margin trading is (if possible) even more reckless than keeping it in non-margin platforms, which is reckless.
2333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 03, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Where can you observe the total longs vs. shorts?
2334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: June 01, 2015, 10:03:13 PM
Hello! What I can do for now?
Build or buy something.. or buy labors..
Is there step-by-step manual or somethink easere than this one https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8bqiuTGRuKpaFRXak9HNG1jYjQ/view ?
Sorry, but it hard to read with my English level..+)

Welcome back proride!! Smiley - Let the others answer the questions!
2335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 01, 2015, 12:41:04 PM
Risto, have you ever been to the Pyramids?

Not personally, even reading of them is captivating enough Smiley   <- let's continue in another thread though  Wink
2336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 01, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
Having an addictive game doesn't hurt either.  Cheesy

While the game is in development, the designer indulges himself in the mysteries of the ancient civilizations:

Just found out that the midpoint of the great chamber of the Kheops Pyramid is situated at such a point (29.9792458° N) that it agrees with the speed of light in vacuum in 9 figure precision (299,792,458 m/s, exact value), corresponding to 3.3 centimeters precision in the placement of the chamber. This is the most astounding coincidence that I have found during my longstanding interest in such. Youtube 1 minute.

It handsomely beats even the values of Pi and e found in Genesis 1:1 and Gospel of John 1:1 in precision. (There is also the well-known 5-digit value of Pi in 1. Kings, quoted from the sceptic site for added credibility among Bible non-believers. This establishes the circumference of the vessel in question in the verse, with 0.5 mm precision given that the diameter was an exact value.)
2337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 01, 2015, 10:11:58 AM
Monero's success depends on its usefulness, the community's ability to articulate that usefulness to those currently unaware of Monero and the community's ability to build an ecosystem of products and services designed to maximize Monero's usefulness.

It has to be noted that before MiG (which is in design still), there is not a single website that is coherently promoting Monero as an investment, a currency, a store of value, or anything that is material to its success marketcapwise.

Or please link if you know of one  Wink
2338  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: June 01, 2015, 09:20:25 AM
Does anyone entertain the idea that the sweeping tide of totaliarianism is some kind of a cover-up to make the best minds occupied to fight for their very existence? So that the actual plan is not the 1984ish "boot stomping on the human face forever" but there is something more to it, but the controllers are maybe overloaded with the information that they also need to process, and have therefore embarked on the seeming "war against knowledge, understanding, consciousness, perception etc".

Just found out that the midpoint of the great chamber of the Kheops Pyramid is situated at such a point (29.9792458° N) that it agrees with the speed of light in vacuum in 9 figure precision (299,792,458 m/s), corresponding to 3.3 centimeters resolution in the placement of the chamber. This is the most astounding coincidence that I have found during my longstanding interest in such. Youtube 1 minute.

It handsomely beats even the values of Pi and e found in Genesis 1:1 and Gospel of John 1:1 in precision. (There is also the well-known 5-digit value of Pi in 1. Kings, quoted from the sceptic site for added credibility among Bible non-believers. This establishes the circumference of the vessel in question in the verse, with 0.5 mm precision given that the diameter was an exact value.)
2339  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: May 31, 2015, 09:29:17 AM

Very well summarized. But only the quoted portion.

The situation is indeed strange. God has explained what will happen in the last ages, and many Christians are praying for it, but they don't have so much detailed understanding how the things operate currently, and cannot much help God in this matter.

On the other hand, there are a lot of people devoted to fight or fend off the kosmos™ world system without subjecting themselves to God's rule, which disqualifies them from effective action as well.

It'll be interesting to see when the convergence happens Smiley
2340  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: May 30, 2015, 09:59:34 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

The real 'Them' is a very small set of people, hundreds perhaps. My theory is that the top honchos do not have identity (proven by wealth distribution analysis that misses at minimum dozens of people from the top).

Then there is an elaborate network of tools, starting from the bilderbergers, going down to the underpaid rural primary school teacher who perpetuates brainwash from her small part.

The tools are the people in the matrix, their whole life is systematized to be the fuel to 'Them'. It does not really matter how high a person is in this tool hierarchy, he does not have power, nor freedom, and is generally mindless and does not realize it.

We should not think that the police who shoot unarmed people having a picnic through the head are 'Them'. In reality they are not much different from drones, in being so completely brainwashed that they cannot act morally. Yes, it is very evil to shoot people, but it does not make the police our enemies. Certainly every policeman who pulls the trigger ending the life of an innocent man, should be lynched for capital murder, but this is only for justice, it does not make them our enemy.

Nowadays the brainwash is so deep that preaching the gospel of grace (traditional Christian gospel of Jesus dying for your sins) is scarcely received in the west. The reason is that people are so drugged by the brainwash that they have no concept of sin, and do not know when they are committing sin, do not see the tower of sin that reaches heaven in the zionist conspiracy, etc.etc.

It is about time to start preaching the gospel of Kingdom.
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