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2321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 01, 2016, 08:10:20 AM
You can get rich in fair Lottery. A bit of lucky and win jackpot.
Is their a thing called fair lottery? I don't think there is because in lottery your chances is very slim and most of the time you are just like donating your money on the gambling establishments or sites, you only play in lottery for fun and if you are lucky then use your big amount of winning to have a legitimate business so you can protect it in the future and you can grow it.
Well, 100% fair international lottery srarts in August 2016. Kibo Lotto. Smart contract based. More details here: http://kiboplatform.net/
Stop promoting your website here, you should create your own thread if you want to earn respect. I have notice you posting everywhere promoting lottery which is not already related to the topic. We should maintain the healthy discussion here.
2322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this true? beginners in gambling are the luckiest? on: August 01, 2016, 08:02:41 AM
I think so, most of us experience to won in the beggining and I think thats the reason why we have a what they called beginners luck. Based on what i saw, beginners who didnt win when they are starting in gambling are rare.

beginner who lose on their first bet is not rare as you said because im one of them. When i first try do gambling  i lose  immediately and try again then lose again after that  i didnt play again gambling since i dont have enough luck to play with it, it might lose me more money if i decide to play again.  Theres no such beginners luck as we all know.,its only depends on luck on anyway.

I though so how could be a newbie win in gambling games when they didnt know the game itself and they are just starter with no strats at all, and i think those biggener luck thing is just a myth and it is coincedence for them to win in that thing since we know their are times that luckily we won for those out of nowhere bets we put.
We all have our beginners luck and you can really feel when you are lucky because anything you do you will also at win, you don't need a strategy in that scenario because it is hard to beat the luck and with luck you can beat the system if you are betting with big amount of money.
2323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 01, 2016, 07:57:10 AM
Well, in fair lottery you really have chance to get million...

DOnt expect too much winning in a lottery would have the chance of 0.0001% in my opinion. Just imagine how many combinations are there for you to win. Im not judging but  its the realty, someone who win those  lottery are the luckiest one in this planet which is a really rare  situation could happen to an individual.
That chances would only give you a win once in your life and even those long time bettors of lottery they died already and never experience a win. That is just normal as we don't have the same luck in gambling and maybe our luck is only good for something like in real life venture.
2324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this true? beginners in gambling are the luckiest? on: August 01, 2016, 05:57:06 AM
That is true because some sites will intentionally make ways to give you a win so by the moment you are winning you will be hooked to play in gambling which would make you addicted and they will still be the winner in the long run. Don't fall for that trap, be smart play gambling for fun only.
2325  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: August 01, 2016, 05:30:56 AM
yes there is no doubt about this we cannot ignore the importance of fiat currency. it play important role in our life with out fiat it is diffcult to spent time. in present time we cannot depend only on bitcoin.
Exactly, if bitcoin will replace fiat there will be a big chaos that is going to happen because this currency is not regulated and we don't want to be slave with the whales and will just rely our life with the way they dictate the price, bitcoins will never be stable with less support of the population so fiat is very important.

people should forget about bitcoin replacing fiat. why? because it's simply impossible. we should enjoy bitcoin how it is right now as alternative currency. and to be honest, i don't want bitcoin to replace anything as there is no need to. fiat currencies and bitcoin can coexist without any problems. some people don't seem to realize that...
Bitcoin, so good for what it is and I fully agree with you. Why would that change anything? Is Now someone is not happy with the situation that we have at the moment. Bitcoin, from anyone and not depend on anything in the outside world. If Bitcoin replaces real money, the situation may change for the worse for the Most of the people who are kept today Bitcoin.

But I think at least at online world it need to replace fiat, and the payment processors of fiat, as with that processors we have lost bigger amount of our money while paying fees for their transactions, and especially paypal which have bothered a lot of people while freezing their accounts for nothing and sucking their money.
Yeah! I get it but we have no choice for now because we are still under their domination, we have to comply with the rules of a certain government where you belong or else we cannot use our bitcoin in real life, in the future maybe there will be more establishment that will accept bitcoins and we should watch out for that.
2326  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: August 01, 2016, 05:26:12 AM
People just speculating. Not actually using bitcoin for anything. Once people start to sell it will crash
but people will not be selling their bitcoins any time soon because they see that the price has a lot of potential to go up so they will invest to make money and push the price up
No one will sell with the way that is happening in the bitcoin economy now, they have seen that the price will rise accordingly and they have high hopes on the effect of halving, majority will not let go and will hold firm their money even for a longer period of time.
2327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 01, 2016, 05:22:04 AM
Gambling is not a way to be rich! If you are lucky, you win a few times. But you are addicted to it and eventually you will lose everything! Keep in mind that gambling business is the most profitable one and always have house edge! No one is possible to compete with them
Yes, I also believe that we cannot rich in gambling, all rich people do their hard work just to be rich for their future. And I believe that if we play gambling it is more possibility to lose than to win. We cannot use gambling to maintain our daily needs in life. We all need is a good job and hard work so we can earn money in a good way, but we all know that we can have an instant money when we play gambling but we can also lose our money here.
Your income in gambling though you are in the profit side is till not consistent, so you cannot rely your income in gambling alone. In reality, the only people who become rich in gambling are those risk takers who also bet huge amount and willing to face the possible consequences if something bad happen in the future.
2328  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: August 01, 2016, 05:17:55 AM
If the bitcoin rises to 100 times the current price, I will start to use more of my bitcoins to purchase things.
100 times is too much of a prediction and you will wait forever before you can see that price, if for example the price will just increase at least 100% with the current price then you have to wait for 100 years before you can get the reward of your investment and by that time you are already a dead man.

You wont probably to see that price you are expecting, yes you are right 100x of current price takes time  to achieve that price.  And that time you would be dead already as he said.  Grin If youre holding  many bitcoin then it rises 3x of the current price its still a good amount that you can buy such properties and assets i guess.
Our speculation should be realistic in order for us to succeed in the future, I believe we can still achieve a good price despite the price is falling back now, for me that is just a normal fluctuation and if really we are increasing in volume it won't take long to see the price back to its stable price.
2329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 01, 2016, 05:04:02 AM
Rubio is still young and he is a good point guard and good in defense due to his length that lacks in other point guard. Well, in order for us not to make a lot of argument here about his capability let us just watch him in the coming regular season.

The thing is scoring is what will make you a star in this league, and that's something Rubio has been lacking these past few seasons.

Rubio had some nice potential coming into the league (I remember he was a flashy passer full of confidence). Sadly I don't see that anymore and I think injuries were the reason for this. His jump shot didn't really improve too so even if he's still young I think he didn't really developed in his last couple of years in the NBA. He could use a change of scenery...
You have to agree with me that a player will improve if he is criticize because he will be challenge that he is receiving that much yet only offers less. This season will be a new season for Rubio with the new head coach which would like to impose discipline in a team, this will be the new bulls under Thibs administration.
2330  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: August 01, 2016, 04:59:19 AM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.
I 'll collect coins bitcoin from some sites that I consider beneficial in terms of waiting time and the number of bitcoin after we waited earlier.
You cannot collect easily because there is not fee bitcoin in this world, if by collecting you mean working for it then you have to work hard as the opportunity here is just limited for working and you have a lot of competitors so better have a skills so you will be selected among the others.
2331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 01, 2016, 04:54:56 AM
I think the best way to play gambling smartly is to have a self control.  that defines it.  Having self-control can minimize your loses thought it also minimize your winnings.  Gambling is a double edge sword that every strategy you are making is always have a double edge sword effect on you.  If you quit gambling you wont lose money and you wont win / earn money too.  So the best is to have discipline and know when to quit.
But I think it is more possibility that we became loser in gambling than to gain profit. So I think it is better to stop playing gambling as early as you can for whatever reason you will play in gambling, don't do it already. Cause the truth we will just lose money than to win.

yeah but there is still a chance of winning in gambling and you can't deny it. and you can also change your strategies to have a better chance and a better plan for making the best out of gambling.

besides not all games are the same, for example poker and sports betting are two of my new favorite games that i feel like there is a very higher chance of winning in them if you have the skills.
Because sports betting and poker has no house advantage so our chances of winning is high compared to dice games and any other related games that has a house edge, I think if you are after of the money you should play sports betting as aside from your chances to win it is also entertaining.
2332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 01, 2016, 04:47:57 AM
There are some lottery strategies. Or join lottery syndicate to minimize money lost.

Yeah, it's a lottery can benefit for us. Not all the lottery must use a fortune, All gambling will not succeed if we do not use strategy and a good prediction. All gambling will be very harmful to those of us who can't control themselves

Yes a strategy for managing the bets and predictions for victory might help to win gambling. We had to set the bet to not be greedy because it resulted in causing many to lose money.

You can look and look but in the end you will find out there is no winning strategy for the long term. Exploits are fixed and in the end you are left with a small loss.
At least if you are lucky.
Yes, gambling is profitable for it's creators. And for lucky persons who win jackpots.
Overall that is only profitable for the owners of the gambling sites, we have no chance to beat them because you cannot beat the system which is designed to make money in favor of the house. Safe method will only happen if you know how to control your self and play it for fun.
2333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: July 31, 2016, 02:00:46 PM
Everbody lose i  the long run dont need to be true if somebody is not risking own money when he or she gamble because if they use gambling sites which give you free money for gambling you can just earn money anf lose nothing.

There is no such thing that gambling sites are going to give you free money, it's either you are going to let them experience gambling experience with their free credits or trials but not with free money. They are going to be bankrupt if a gambling site is going to do it. It is their marketing strategy and the cycle of gambling that every one is just going to lose.
The bonuses they are offering is just to lure people to sign up in their site and when you have explore their site and you got hooked with it then that would be the start that you will be betting with them. Personally, I have availed on the bonus of a certain site and I have won and cash out accordingly, maybe I am just lucky.
2334  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Get a creditcard without a bank - funded with Bitcoin on: July 31, 2016, 01:55:44 PM
I really thought this was a credit card that we can make credit transactions and just pay the amortization on a monthly basis but upon reading the full information, I am quiet upset because this is just a debit card that you need to fund your account first before you can use it.
Good, iiving on credit is stupid anyway.  If you want something save up for it and then buy it. This buy now pay later bullshit causes so many problems.
That's true, because of credit card we are tempted to buy things even if we cannot afford it base on our income. I have already experience that in my life and I still want to take credit card anyway because I have learn to control myself as I am interested in spending my money for investment with bitcoins only.

Anyway, going back to the topic, that is good that it was cleared that the OP is promoting a debit card and not a credit card.
2335  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: July 31, 2016, 01:50:14 PM
I have lent some money to HaoBTC. The interest rate is about 8%. It is not high, but I get some income.


For me it is somehow it is a good amount of rate, and of course you don't have nothing to do but to lend your bitcoin and going to wait for the interest rate and return of your bitcoin. That's a fair enough rate to lend your bitcoin to HaoBTC.
you'll realize what's the meaning of "good amount of interest" when you just investing on HaoBTC and suddenly the price of bitcoin because so fluctuative and the value decreased,wasting time and wasting effort

I must say that loans can be risky. I suggest you only take a loan when you buying something that you really need. And if you are sure that you will be able to pay it back. If this is not the case do not take a loan because it will mess up your life.
Sometimes a person will only take a loan in desperate times but in most cases some takes a loan to buy their wants, for me that kind of actions is too risky because once you default your payment amortization you will have to pay the interest together with the penalty which will give another problem.
2336  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 31, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Getting rich is a dream of all people in this world. But how to attain it?
You need to be hardworking and smart. With this gifts you can be rich someday.

Hard work and proper management of your finances would make your life easier..  keeping your self away from things that might make you spent your earnings is the best way...Some friends too, I think you should avoid those happy go lucky friends, they will always tempt you to keep on spending and buying unnecessary purchases...  Smiley
Yeah agree working hard without offset by good appropriate management finances will not give anything if you've a dream to be rich you must avoid all the pleasure in your life.

That's true, you should have a list of what you really need is the best way to manage your money and get rich soon. Avoiding pleasures in life is a good way of control and could keep you away from buying things that you don't need, I think a lifestyle check from time to time is a good idea to try.
Yes, lifestyle check is very important, the problem with the people when they have a lot of money they also improve their lifestyle and they tend to forget how to save money anymore, they are blinded by the money they are receiving and they forget about saving for the future.
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2338  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 31, 2016, 01:31:52 PM

I think the 20% if very big amount coz here in our country my wage is only 280 pesos or  7$ only in 8hours how to manage that money and get 20% to save. Its hard to save here coz that my salary is not enough for my family in a day i buy 1kilo of rice and milk to my baby and i have 2 kids going to school so that 280 pesos is very hard to budget it. I very thank full because i learn how to post  here in forum so i get extra income.

It really gives me pleasure to know that bitcoin is helping people live their lives quite easily then they could usually live.
I think for you it is not important to save anything right now as your income from your job is too small so you should just use bitcoins also for your family and later if you get some other source of income as well then start saving.
Exactly, you need to prioritize the basic needs of your family and since you are a hard working man in the future you can still save. I have one tip, just live below your means and do not be easily tempted on the things out there like gadgets as they will easily depreciate while investing in bitcoin will appreciate overtime.
2339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 31, 2016, 01:22:23 PM
Rubio is still young and he is a good point guard and good in defense due to his length that lacks in other point guard. Well, in order for us not to make a lot of argument here about his capability let us just watch him in the coming regular season.

The thing is scoring is what will make you a star in this league, and that's something Rubio has been lacking these past few seasons.
For the eyes of the many you will be a popular if you are a good scorer but when it comes to real basketball every placer has its unique role and in order for a team to progress you should stick to your role throughout the game. Rubio is another good example of a point guard who manage to make good plays down the stretch, if he is not good then he should be out of the team already.

Look at mike conley, this guy is underrated by makes history because of the contract he recently signed with the memphis.
2340  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 31, 2016, 01:12:09 PM
Getting rich is a dream of all people in this world. But how to attain it?
You need to be hardworking and smart. With this gifts you can be rich someday.

It is a good idea to work hard and get the fiat money and buy the bitcoin with that. The price will rise again.
Hard work will help but working smart with hard work will do better, you are too sure that the price will rise again and I like that actually but you should reserve some doubts and should not put all your earnings in bitcoin as we can never ascertain the future.
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