New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
You are assuming a lot, aren't you? You are assuming that the trust story is actually true, and if it were true, then whoever has the keys can do whatever the fuck they want with the coins, including dumping them all. We don't need to DAO hardfork in bitcoin. This is not ethereum, and the mere fact that some goofball like craig might gain access to such coins should NOT worry anyone. It's a hypothetical based on their claims, would it be better if it was reworded to: what if two billionairs are not completely insane and actually have some logic to their madness? I'm having a hard time explaining their actions and timing, so dismissing it off to their stupidity feels like an easy way out. To me that's the biggest risk holding BTC back right now, everything else seems to be going as planned. Trusts cannot do anything with assets they hold but beneficiary can do whatever the fuck they want, and in the wrong hands BTC1MM can do a lot of damage. But as i answered my own question, if that has any merit to being true their first step would be proving that he's Satoshi in the eyes of the government. And if that were to actually happen we would most certainly fork to original and Satoshi's frozen stash chains the next day and then market would assign risks appropriately. Never attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence |
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Good bye 5400.
We'll meet again.
Good to see you again. I missed you 5400. Dear 5400. I really enjoyed spending time with you. But I’m just not ready for a commitment. |
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Golden cross achieved on Bitstamp on 50 / 200 MA daily  |
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^ sir, ty
Rubbish...not one Observer report. How are we supposed to take this seriously?
Challenge accepted the bottom is in: 45% Last of the V8s WO prediction challenge accepted. Everyone please accept the challenge, quote, and add your percent certainty. Bottom is in. 98% Lambie Slayer 80% confident of bottom with 20% chance of a flash crash. Almost zero percent chance of a sustained low. |
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Good bye 5400.
We'll meet again.
Good to see you again. I missed you 5400. |
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Well it doesn’t look like anyone wants to advocate for children starving in the streets. If you follow that through to its logical conclusion you end up with a system not dissimilar to the current system.
On that basis I think that left and right are actually quite close in their approach although the rhetoric differs.
I guess Jbear and Arie and I can agree on stuff.
I'll be your huckleberry. Kids dying in the street would be survival of the fittest at work. Like wolf pups who starve because momma wolf is too famished to produce good milk. Weak specimens dying off makes the species stronger. And charities feed people. Give it another 50 years of automation and you might get your utopian society. We can wipe out the entire blue collar class. |
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Sounds like an attempt to move the Overton window
Jojo: I want to think before responding
Arie: I will read your link
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Well it doesn’t look like anyone wants to advocate for children starving in the streets. If you follow that through to its logical conclusion you end up with a system not dissimilar to the current system.
On that basis I think that left and right are actually quite close in their approach although the rhetoric differs.
I guess Jbear and Arie and I can agree on stuff.
We are discussing what is being suggested in real legislation in the US. Not some fantasy land only this only that. The current US setup but now with added giving money to lazy people and taxing out the ass. TBH I haven’t followed the new green deal and don’t know what is being proposed. |
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Well it doesn’t look like anyone wants to advocate for children starving in the streets. If you follow that through to its logical conclusion you end up with a system not dissimilar to the current system.
On that basis I think that left and right are actually quite close in their approach although the rhetoric differs.
I guess Jbear and Arie and I can agree on stuff.
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China is “socialism with Chinese characteristics” which translates to hyper-capitalism.
The USA is far more socialist than China.
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Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?
hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on. I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn. I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road. You don't "work on the edge cases", you change the goalposts, first we agree that people who are not capable of working should be helped, then you include the very same category in your cohort of unwilling (people who are able bodied and mentally ill). And btw children that are endangered would be cared for by social services. We are talking about adults here. Another example of you moving the goalposts. Ok so the right wing utopia does have social services ? I want to know what happens to the kids because that is where the right wing approach always breaks down, and we end up with something that looks like what we currently have. No you don't, if that was the case you would have asked that to begin with. You are just out to provoke. No we went through a necessary process in order to establish that refuseniks starve in the streets. This is important context because it establishes the risk that children of refuseniks could also starve in the streets. Having lived in China, I have seen a 4 year old child sleeping in a garbage bag in the snow outside my office. I want to know if the right wingers aspire to the same result in Western countries. Or alternatively whether that is unacceptable and the talk about refuseniks starving in the streets is just bluster. |
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Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?
hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on. I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn. I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road. You don't "work on the edge cases", you change the goalposts, first we agree that people who are not capable of working should be helped, then you include the very same category in your cohort of unwilling (people who are able bodied and mentally ill). And btw children that are endangered would be cared for by social services. We are talking about adults here. Another example of you moving the goalposts. Ok so the right wing utopia does have social services ? I want to know what happens to the kids because that is where the right wing approach always breaks down, and we end up with something that looks like what we currently have. |
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Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?
hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on. I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn. I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road. |
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Let’s focus on the unwilling. Someone who point blank refuses to work. I am guessing that these people do not receive any form of social welfare.
Do these people starve in your world? Or maybe they are compelled to work?
That's right, they starve. Compelled to work? Because you know what's good for them? Who anointed you all Mr/Ms High-And-Mighty? You do you. They do themselves. I do me. See how easy that all is? Ok so forced labor camps are out. That’s good, I didn’t like the idea of them. Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets? Yes, but only those who chose to starve. Cool. Tell me what happens to a 2 year old of someone who refuses to work. Does the two year old starve? Are there forced adoptions ? |
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Let’s focus on the unwilling. Someone who point blank refuses to work. I am guessing that these people do not receive any form of social welfare.
Do these people starve in your world? Or maybe they are compelled to work?
That's right, they starve. Compelled to work? Because you know what's good for them? Who anointed you all Mr/Ms High-And-Mighty? You do you. They do themselves. I do me. See how easy that all is? Ok so forced labor camps are out. That’s good, I didn’t like the idea of them. Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets? |
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Guys - indulge me in working through this.
Let’s focus on the unwilling. Someone who point blank refuses to work. I am guessing that these people do not receive any form of social welfare.
Do these people starve in your world? Or maybe they are compelled to work?
Sorry Hairy, no, no welfare for the unwilling. I'm all for letting them free range and make their informal way as best they can, but if they steal or crap in the commons they get the piss beat out of them. Certainly. Can you spell it out exactly what happens to those who are able but point blank refuse to work? It might turn out I agree with y’all, it’s just that I don’t understand what is being proposed. |
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Found it ! Iconfirm is trusted by jollygood who's trusted by someone I trust. Fuck, this thing is complicated.
Sorry if I scared some of you.
This is your default view  This is what I see for you based on my trust setting  An alternative approach is not to give a fuck about trust ratings and ignore them |
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Sounds like someone is confused about the difference between Hyperledger Fabric and Bitcoin. Haha. See? We can ally on shared topics. almost scary Awww fuck son, it's an Easter Miracle. It’s all very sudden and confusing. Not sure I was ready to take this next step. But here we find ourselves. |
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A lot of original users came to Bitcoin due to like of no government control, that's something libertarians and right leaning people like.
Now with the left going full socialism and wanting to give away money from those who work to those who "are unable or UNWILLING TO WORK" in their new green deal and wanting huge tax rates I think most bitcoiners in the US are probably Trump supporters.
Let’s assume you are President and King and have total control over the laws of the land. What happens to those unable or unwilling to work? The unwilling can fuck right off. +1 smerit I don't understand how this could even be up for debate. When has society ever decided that being a lazy piece of shit is an acceptable behavior and is to be rewarded with a living income? Talk about a way to breed even more losers into society and bring it down moreso in total. Low end jobs would have no workers, the taxes on those who work would be raised to cover them, it would be a monumental source of damage to the economy and society. Guys - indulge me in working through this. Let’s focus on the unwilling. Someone who point blank refuses to work. I am guessing that these people do not receive any form of social welfare. Do these people starve in your world? Or maybe they are compelled to work? |
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