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[Arriemoller]

Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?

hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on.

I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn.  

I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road.

You don't "work on the edge cases", you change the goalposts, first we agree that people who are not capable of working should be helped, then you include the very same category in your cohort of unwilling (people who are able bodied and mentally ill).
And btw children that are endangered would be cared for by social services. We are talking about adults here. Another example of you moving the goalposts.

Ok so the right wing utopia does have social services ?

I want to know what happens to the kids because that is where the right wing approach always breaks down, and we end up with something that looks like what we currently have.

No you don't, if that was the case you would have asked that to begin with. You are just out to provoke.

[El duderino_]

If you think the people in charge know exactly what they’re doing, do nothing & continue on with your life.

If you think those in charge may NOT actually be as smart as they want us to think, buy a little Bitcoin.

The status quo is a bet on humans, but Bitcoin is a bet on math.

https://twitter.com/APompliano/status/1120074248918323200

[El duderino_]

If you bought a bitcoin last Easter, you’ve lost ~ $1,500. 😭

If you bought one on Easter 2017, you’ve made ~ $3,900. 🥳

^
Just read that one....

I'm more curious about where will BTC be @ Easter 2020-2021-2022 for starters

Some guys wanna do some bold predictions ??

Where would it be on your BTC-line HM ?

[HairyMaclairy]

Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?

hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on.

I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn.  

I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road.

You don't "work on the edge cases", you change the goalposts, first we agree that people who are not capable of working should be helped, then you include the very same category in your cohort of unwilling (people who are able bodied and mentally ill).
And btw children that are endangered would be cared for by social services. We are talking about adults here. Another example of you moving the goalposts.

Ok so the right wing utopia does have social services ?

I want to know what happens to the kids because that is where the right wing approach always breaks down, and we end up with something that looks like what we currently have.

No you don't, if that was the case you would have asked that to begin with. You are just out to provoke.

No we went through a necessary process in order to establish that refuseniks starve in the streets.  

This is important context because it establishes the risk that children of refuseniks could also starve in the streets.

Having lived in China, I have seen a 4 year old child sleeping in a garbage bag in the snow outside my office. I want to know if the right wingers aspire to the same result in Western countries.   Or alternatively whether that is unacceptable and the talk about refuseniks starving in the streets is just bluster.

[Arriemoller]

Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?

hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on.

I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn.  

I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road.

You don't "work on the edge cases", you change the goalposts, first we agree that people who are not capable of working should be helped, then you include the very same category in your cohort of unwilling (people who are able bodied and mentally ill).
And btw children that are endangered would be cared for by social services. We are talking about adults here. Another example of you moving the goalposts.

Ok so the right wing utopia does have social services ?

I want to know what happens to the kids because that is where the right wing approach always breaks down, and we end up with something that looks like what we currently have.

No you don't, if that was the case you would have asked that to begin with. You are just out to provoke.

No we went through a necessary process in order to establish that refuseniks starve in the streets.  

This is important context because it establishes the risk that children of refuseniks could also starve in the streets.

Having lived in China, I have seen a 4 year old child sleeping in a garbage bag in the snow outside my office. I want to know if the right wingers aspire to the same result in Western countries.   Or alternatively whether that is unacceptable and the talk about refuseniks starving in the streets is just bluster.

You do know that China is a communist dictatorship don't you. That's your paradise, not ours.

[Febo]

Looks fucking scary. If they asked me to paint the most horrific bear run, I would exactly paint it like this. It is long, it is not directly going down, it is a fucking torture. You think going from 6k to 3k was bad? Pray it doesn't go below.

It will not go under $1200. Whoever was dreaming months ago about that is just a dreamer. Right now is not a dreamer anymore but an idiot. Even sub $2000 should never happen.  $3200 as it was is just perfect. Yes it can go there in next 4 months, but most likely will dip to like $3600 minimum.  Come on. $1200. Really? Bitcoin was $1200, 5 and half years ago.

[bitserve]

Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?

hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on.

I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn.  

I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road.

Last time I checked there were public food places where people without resources can go and eat. I don't remember when was the last time I heard about someone dying of starvation (unless he really intended to). What kind of countries are we talking about?

[bitserve]

Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?

hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on.

I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn.  

I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road.

You don't "work on the edge cases", you change the goalposts, first we agree that people who are not capable of working should be helped, then you include the very same category in your cohort of unwilling (people who are able bodied and mentally ill).
And btw children that are endangered would be cared for by social services. We are talking about adults here. Another example of you moving the goalposts.

Ok so the right wing utopia does have social services ?

I want to know what happens to the kids because that is where the right wing approach always breaks down, and we end up with something that looks like what we currently have.

No you don't, if that was the case you would have asked that to begin with. You are just out to provoke.

No we went through a necessary process in order to establish that refuseniks starve in the streets.  

This is important context because it establishes the risk that children of refuseniks could also starve in the streets.

Having lived in China, I have seen a 4 year old child sleeping in a garbage bag in the snow outside my office. I want to know if the right wingers aspire to the same result in Western countries.   Or alternatively whether that is unacceptable and the talk about refuseniks starving in the streets is just bluster.

Oh, I see, China? What kind of right wing party rules there? Oh, wait....

[realr0ach]

After the greatest naval defeat since the Battle of Midway, I see Elwar has given up on his dream of cosplaying a floating fishing lure.

[UnknownHolder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrGx0lhdNBY&t=11509s

I posted the stream earlier but surprisingly nobody here was interested in it.

Anyway this what this bald guy thinks going to happen:

https://i.ibb.co/8D1XLSq/der.png

Looks fucking scary. If they asked me to paint the most horrific bear run, I would exactly paint it like this. It is long, it is not directly going down, it is a fucking torture. You think going from 6k to 3k was bad? Pray it doesn't go below.

I guess I am scared. Gonna wait a few months before I buy anything new. No more FOMO.

Hi, please, say to Tone Vays "Bottom is already IN !!!"  :-)

[goldkingcoiner]

Hope you guys had a nice easter! 

Anyone find a bitcoin in an egg?

[HairyMaclairy]

China is “socialism with Chinese characteristics” which translates to hyper-capitalism.  

The USA is far more socialist than China. 

[Arriemoller]

This is the poster used to explain the letter "n" when i went to school. https://www.tradera.com/item/2024/347353754/skolplansch-n-ur-lenas-abc

Imagine the snowflakes if that had been today.

[Arriemoller]

China is “socialism with Chinese characteristics” which translates to hyper-capitalism.  

The USA is far more socialist than China. 

Funny how socialists always claim that the socialist countries aren't really socialist.

[Arriemoller]

Hope you guys had a nice easter! 

Anyone find a bitcoin in an egg?

Same to you thanks, and no, didn't even find an egg

[bitserve]

China is “socialism with Chinese characteristics” which translates to hyper-capitalism.  

The USA is far more socialist than China.  

Funny how socialists always claim that the socialist countries aren't really socialist.

Maybe Venezuela is not socialist either. I donno, I am starting to get very lost on this subject.

To the moon?

[HairyMaclairy]

Well it doesn’t look like anyone wants to advocate for children starving in the streets.  If you follow that through to its logical conclusion you end up with a system not dissimilar to the current system.

On that basis I think that left and right are actually quite close in their approach although the rhetoric differs.  

I guess Jbear and Arie and I can agree on stuff.

[El duderino_]

After the greatest naval defeat since the Battle of Midway, I see Elwar has given up on his dream of cosplaying a floating fishing lure.

He will continue elsewhere

And long time  no see, think its been from the night of that 1K pump

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Just so we are clear, the right wing utopia has people that starve in the streets?

hard to believe anyone would actually choose starvation over sweeping up the stockroom, I mean, come on.

I believe that the community has a number of people who are able bodied and mentally ill, or just plain stubborn.  

I want to work on the edge cases, because the edge cases are where the rubber hits the road.

You don't "work on the edge cases", you change the goalposts, first we agree that people who are not capable of working should be helped, then you include the very same category in your cohort of unwilling (people who are able bodied and mentally ill).
And btw children that are endangered would be cared for by social services. We are talking about adults here. Another example of you moving the goalposts.

Ok so the right wing utopia does have social services ?

I want to know what happens to the kids because that is where the right wing approach always breaks down, and we end up with something that looks like what we currently have.

If taxes were voluntary they would imply a government participating in the free market by offering services that the population decides how much it should be worth. Hence compatible with capitalism.

These services could also extend to contracts along the line of "if you receive social services for x amount of time you will pay p percent of your paycheck for y amount of time once you get a job". The money could then be used either for further funding, or if "too profitable" be paid back to people who "invested their taxes" in the service.

The rest would take care of itself by services being added, redacted and modified based on funding and changing landscape of social issues.

Could also use that to fund going to fucking Mars, longevity, curing random diseases or fixing any other type of problem that is unlikely to be profitable and that people would come up with.

Would also change the political debate from retarded pronouns to figuring out how to best allocate money and thus end partisan horseshit.

[Arriemoller]

Well it doesn’t look like anyone wants to advocate for children starving in the streets.  If you follow that through to its logical conclusion you end up with a system not dissimilar to the current system.

On that basis I think that left and right are actually quite close in their approach although the rhetoric differs.  

I guess Jbear and Arie and I can agree on stuff.

If you think having a function of some kind for taking care of children makes a socialist and a free society the same you are delusional.

I really can't take care of you any more, I have to go to bed now. Try to find answers to your questions using DDG instead.
You can start here. https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/key-concepts-libertarianism