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2361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the martingale system sucks! (doubling down on losses) on: May 14, 2021, 04:00:45 PM
Only a newbie use this martingale strategy. It won't give you big win, but only small win with a higher risk of busted.
Let's say you have $100 bankroll, $0.1 starting bet, and use martingale. It only needs $0.1, $0.2, $0.4, $0.8, $1.6, $3.2, $6.4, $12.8, $25.6 -> nine times until you wager half of your balance. And all of these only to get +$0.1

Use reverse martingale instead, so if you get nine consecutive wins, you will get +$51.1 (not sure if my math is correct, but you should get the idea). You can also get out at five, six, seven, etc. consecutive wins.
2362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Doge is to hold should not be trading on: May 14, 2021, 06:00:13 AM
If you judge by Doge's tokenomics, this coin is surely not for hold. Remember the inflation and unlimited supply?
If the Doge hard forked and the devs change its tokenomics, then maybe it will be worth to hold. Otherwise, there are too many coins generated every day that will dilute its price. Also remember this is a meme coin, without a clear advantage compared to other coins.
2363  Economy / Gambling / Re: Very immoral marketing strategy. on: May 14, 2021, 04:12:58 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these streamers and youtubers' statistics will still be in loss on long run even if they are using fake money
True, but a $1,000 loss in a session can be just $10 in actual money. It depends on the deal.
If he gets paid $500 in one streaming session, he will still get $500 - $10 = $490 profit.

In other words, the loss is so small that is negligible for his streaming operation.
2364  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: HARUSKAH SAYA MENYESAL on: May 14, 2021, 04:01:57 AM
Tidak.

Semua keputusan dibuat pastilah yang agan anggap terbaik waktu itu. Kalau tidak dijual -> agan tidak dapat uang -> barangkali hal yang lebih buruk yang akan terjadi dari sekedar kehilangan akun.

Bikin naik rank itu gampang-gampang susah, liat aja ada yang bisa bikin sampe banyak akun dimasukin pula ke kampanye kek Chipmixer. Asalkan punya pengetahuan pasti bisa rank up lagi apalagi cuma satu akun.

Lebih baik menyesal tidak beli BTC sekarung waktu harganya di bawah $1, loh Grin
2365  Economy / Economics / Re: Tesla stops car purchases with Bitcoin on: May 13, 2021, 01:35:55 PM
I smell market manipulation and Elon Musk has pranked all of us.
People should stop paying attention to his (and his company) action, just like what we did with McAfee.

I think that our strategy and buys of bitcoin should be absolutely agnostics on regards to whatever Tesla or Elon does or say. the use case itself is very limited to buy a car and it does not offer value to 90% of bitcoin users. It is a community effort to ignore those who intend to use the ecosystem for thing that are completely outside the spirit and practice of the bitcoin and crypto community. It is legit to ear money with crypto, but not at the cost of manipulating the market. I am so surprised the SEC is not already acting on this guy that I am suspicious of their motives.
True, BTC price should be independent of Musk and the future manipulators. SEC has fined Musk once, and I wouldn't be surprised if his antics lately will cause another fine.
2366  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Breaking] Tesla Telah Membeli $1,5 Milyar BTC di Januari on: May 13, 2021, 01:21:16 PM
Bisa saja vote Dogecoin sebagai opsi pembayaran akhirnya juga akan dijadikan sebagai senjata bagi dia untuk meraih opit  Grin
Bisa banget, jadi kek McAfee jaman dulu yang kerjaannya ngeshill dan manipulasi pasar.

Market Manipulator
Ane udah curiga dari awal makanya ini thread diluncurkan gan. wkwkw

Dogecoin
Keknya ini ga usah dibahas karena udah kempes Tongue *disclaimer on* Tempatnya juga di sub altcoin.
Feeling ane ga bakal dijadikan alat pembayaran itu koin gan kalau BTC saja tidak bisa.


Kalau buat yang udah lama di crypto sih kemungkinan bakal opit sama yang ginian, baik Doge maupun BTC, cuma kasian ama newbie yang baru gabung udah digoyang goyang  Grin
2367  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: May 13, 2021, 12:57:42 PM
"Madam Destinity Megaways"
Another garbage game.
Speaking of the "small bet" big win, $10 is not a small bet Grin except your bankroll is at least $2500 (remember the 250 spins rule).

I would say $20 for a buy feature is still relatively cheap (a minimum of buy feature), but no for normal spins
$10 should be the standard for cheap, but it depends on the game. Remember how quick your balance got depleted on Gates of Olympus? ROFL



Anyway, I'm surprised how rollercoaster price movement can mimic real-world crypto trading even though it's just a simulation. Nice!
2368  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Breaking] Tesla Telah Membeli $1,5 Milyar BTC di Januari on: May 13, 2021, 11:31:57 AM
Bump

Elon Musk dan Tesla ini memang dagelan. Bisa ngepump dan ngedump harga BTC dengan mudahnya.
Ini gimana sih tadinya BTC rencananya bisa dipakai buat bayar beli mobil, eh ga jadi. Apakah ini wujud permainan si Musk? Beli BTC -> Fomo Tesla BTC -> Dump -> FUD Tesla BTC sehingga bisa beli lagi di harga murah lalu mainkan harga lagi?
2369  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Selamat Hari Raya Idul Fitri 1442H on: May 13, 2021, 02:47:44 AM
Ane juga mengucapkan "Selamat Hari Raya Idul Fitri 1442H."

Teruntuk semua penghuni forum baik spammer dan tukang jualan akun.
"Mohon maaf lahir dan batin."

Semoga lebaran tahun depan semua masih bisa kumpul dengan gembira.
#PendukungMudik

2370  Other / Off-topic / Re: Slapping Tournament on: May 12, 2021, 05:08:49 PM
FYI Punchdown #4 will start on May, 22, 2021. You can bet on totalbet.
Anyway, I don't like the strategy used by the recent finalists (Kamotsky and Zalewski). They both tilt their head down, perhaps to avoid getting slapped on the jaw.
This sport has a bright future, but the inconsistency of the rules may hinder this sport to take off, unlike arm-wrestling when the rules are pretty much clear. Hence, we need some standardization of rules before holding international events IMO.
2371  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] KEBERLANSUNGAN FORUM DISKUSI BITCOINTALK.ORG & MEMBER-NYA on: May 12, 2021, 04:36:20 PM
Kalo menurut saya sih lebih bagus dulu daripada sekarang.
Banyak orang berilmu sekarang sih mereka mereka udah ga aktif lagi.  Sad
Dulu banyak yang ilmunya ngapain gan?
Mungkin BTCnya udah banyak jadi udah kaya, lalu malas posting lagi.

Kalau agan ga aktif tentunya sulit untuk menikmati forum yang sekarang. Ane sih bisa memahami kalau sudah lama (beneran) tidak aktif lalu join lagi rasanya nyaman yang jaman dulu. Fenomena ini sering disebut nostalgila. Musik jaman dulu lebih bagus, film jaman dulu lebih bagus, dst. Makanya nimbrung lagi ke generasi berikutnya agar masih bisa menikmati.

Kek om atas ane @Ljunior ini lho dari dulu sampai sekarang sama-sama suka nyemprot, keknya bisa menikmati morum di semua generasi.
2372  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Instant BTC & ETH withdraws | Live games & Slots! | VIP | on: May 12, 2021, 04:05:24 PM
There's no excuse for the high fees, because there are already LTC and Doge :v
Damn Grin
I have just got rekt there without a single good multiplier. This is the worst case when you got busted without producing meaningful results for the competition.
I think I have no luck on Duelbits since my deposit/withdrawal ratio is too bad compared to other casinos.

Maybe it's just a superstition.
2373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sumo betting seems rigged - can you make profit with it? on: May 12, 2021, 06:30:29 AM
I kinda agree on this Reddit discussion. It is said that a wrestler needs 8 wins in order to not getting demoted, so those who get 7 wins have ~75% win rate because they desperately want to win (about incentive). And those who already get 8 wins (and not aiming for the top) kinda laid back since why bother trying. This situation is like when a football team already wins the league, they will play youngsters and reserves, thus clubs that face relegation battle can have the advantage and win.
2374  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Apakah BSC bisa menggeser tahta ETH ? on: May 12, 2021, 06:07:28 AM
Pada dasarnya, BSC adalah fork dari ETH (kalau ga salah), jadi apa yang terjadi pada ETH saat ini, sangat memungkinkan terjadi pada BSC.
Tapi algo yang dipakai bukan lagi PoW gan, sehingga ya jauh lebih cepat dan murah. Bisa saja sih BSC congested meskipun pakai POS seperti yang terjadi pada EOS gara-gara spam. Cuma dalam waktu dekat keknya kemungkinannya kecil terjadi kondisi jaringan yang kelewat padat.

Kalau POS yang lebih dikuatirkan adalah keamanan jaringan (terkait sentralisasi), nothing at stake dan sebangsanya, bukan masalah kecepatan dan kemurahan biaya transaksi.

Juga kalau pakai logika sederhana, seharusnya semakin lama biaya transaksi di BSC bisa semakin murah karena validatornya (bisa jadi) sudah ROI. Tapi ya tergantung keserakahan validator.
2375  Economy / Economics / Re: If we have crypto Why people still buy stocks? on: May 11, 2021, 07:00:28 PM
The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks

Not dummy friendly. Please consult psychiatrists if you have mental defects.
Obviously you haven't born when several market crashes happened, and you only read the title not the article, let alone to know the reason 2008 crisis happened. If your argument about banking and derivatives, it is fine.

Ask your mother about what happened, don't go wander around in a forum spreading nonsense.

~Bye kid.
2376  Economy / Economics / Re: If we have crypto Why people still buy stocks? on: May 11, 2021, 06:46:23 PM
Read the genesis block again. Unless you can’t read what’s written by them to remind all of you pretentious salesman.
What's in it? Explain it here. Don't be too cryptic, except if you don't understand.

WHY YOU THINK STOCK MARKET IS A SCAM?
2377  Economy / Economics / Re: If we have crypto Why people still buy stocks? on: May 11, 2021, 06:35:37 PM
It’s so biased for you to call stock not a scam while calling crypto is one of them.
Wait wut? I called nothing... I simply asked why you think stock market is a scam.
I don't even think you understand my question.

So I ask you one more time, why you think stock market is a scam?

Crypto is created as the result of stock market scam going full out of control, there won’t be crypto if not for the stock market.
I hit CTRL+F on the Bitcoin whitepaper, and only find "stock" in this paragraph:
Quote
This is similar to the level of information released by stock exchanges, where the time and size of individual trades, the "tape", is made public, but without telling who the parties were.

Tell me your story about this "Crypto is created as the result of stock market scam going full out of control." It should be interesting Smiley
2378  Economy / Economics / Re: If we have crypto Why people still buy stocks? on: May 11, 2021, 04:32:50 PM
People tell me stock is not a scam and all bs. They know nothing about stock, every stock is a product of scam, don’t trust those stock salesman, they need idiot like you to buy their stock.
Why you think stocks are scam? Which part of it you consider as a scam?


Anyway, if you buy enough stock, you will own the company (majority shareholder). In crypto, if you buy enough crypto you won't own the brand/ticker, you will only become a whale. Can't do anything with your bag except hold it and wait for someone else to buy it.
2379  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: May 11, 2021, 04:20:15 PM
I tried the trading game, and it's quite entertaining! It tastes like a crash game, but more fun since you can set the payout multiplier.
The higher the payout multiplier, the thinner the bust price. 500x seems okay for me.

If you are into trading, this game is surely tempting. However, not sure if the price feed can be verified, so you have to trust the game.
2380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Man lost £20,000 in one night after becoming addicted to online gambling! on: May 11, 2021, 04:03:59 PM
I'm a bit skeptical about this news since the man seems more like a photo model than a gambling addict, and the advertisement tho.. (*cough* @Footsteps)

Anyway, if the story is true, the problem is always betting tremendous amount of money that he couldn't afford to lose. Remember the 10:90 principle, 10% of your net worth max for gambling, and this problem won't exist.
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