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1421  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [NEWS]Binance Mau Bikin Bursa Baru Bersama BCA dan Telkom di Indonesia? on: December 10, 2021, 03:00:16 PM
Kalau dari penerawangan ane yang hanya berbasis intuisi, ini keknya cuma berita PR saja. Binance kan sudah ada hubungan dengan Tokocrypto, jadi pasar Indonesia sebetulnya sudah main dia. Palingan ini terkait dengan depo wede Tokocrypto or Binance pakai BCA atau apalah produk apps fintech mereka, atau pakai LinkAja.
1422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: December 10, 2021, 02:44:17 PM
Chasing losses is never been a good behavior as a gambler because this would really trigger out those emotions which would lead to more mistakes.
Panjul is a veteran gambler with lots of experience, so I won't question his emotional control and stuff.

However, even veteran gamblers may not used to deal with "cold period" of slots games. It's a quite long period of slots rekt that demotivates player from playing the game (retired) or make them not patient enough to wait for the "hot period" thus they burn more money than their gambling budget. For me, I just play with my budget as usual. For sure, it's just "for fun" budget.
1423  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: December 10, 2021, 02:33:13 PM
Discord is still a mystery to me since I find it similar to telegram group. Do people here use discord that much? It seems that casino prefer to use Discord instead of, for example, Reddit. IMO if the casino has a telegram group, it's enough. No need for discord.

Anyway, it seems that only 300 people reaching day-10, quite a reduction from 2,000 people. Your thought?
1424  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - 2 Million+ in Xmas Giveaways | Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: December 10, 2021, 01:28:22 PM
I am still not getting much luck than making €4.08 but that is good for me for playing Legion X for a while. Hopefully, that can increase for more and I can see my luck will come to me.
If you are tight on budget or not prepared to spend "real" money, you can always play Pragmatic Play games with IDR as the currency. This way you can play with 200 IDR minimum bet, or equal to ~0.015 USD. Instead of just do 25 spins $0.2 = $5, you can do way more! ~333 spins! That's enough for one nice play session. You can Buy Bonus as well, at least three times. Grin
1425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Financial Guard Rail ? on: December 10, 2021, 12:45:16 PM
It will work if the casino is the one who implements the system, so they can "hard limit" players' deposit. It won't work if it's just an app installed on users' phone and merely giving "advice" to users. If such advice works, people just need more fussy wife/mother.

Yeah, maybe the app can block tx and stuff, but an addicted gambler will just find a way to deactivate the feature or uninstall the app completely.
1426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you lose interest to deposit and play more..., on: December 10, 2021, 10:28:08 AM
You can't generalize the problem since each case is unique, and has different severity. If you stop deposit just because there are unresolved cases, there won't be any casino left to play, since we deal with people losing money from gambling, so I believe some of the buthurt players will make a fuss. You can see in the trust pilot review, for example.

So I still do my own research and think for myself, and part of DYOR is weighing the dispute, is it serious, what the chance it will occur to me, etc.
1427  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [UPDATE][EDUKASI] Mengenal Konsep Penjualan Baru - Initial NFT Offering (INO) on: December 10, 2021, 08:18:23 AM
Sempet bingung ane isinya kok CTO, ternyata update Cheesy kalo ane sih mending dibuat thread baru aja harusnya.

INO (kalo IGO sudah populer dipakai untuk hal lain Grin) yang intinya jualan NFT sebelum platformnya jadi ini ane belum pernah ikutan, yang sering ane lihat adalah yang langsung jualan NFT (platformnya sudah jadi) kek Rollbit, TRM, dsb. Kalo dari segi produk INO lebih keliatan daripada ICO, karena user bisa memilih NFT apa yang mau dia beli beserta perksnya. Ini sedikit lebih baik daripada hanya mengumpulkan duit (pooling fund) lalu dikasih janji proyek dan token. Kek misalnya dulu TRM waktu jualan NFT (meskipun mungkin bukan INO), sudah jelas bisa dipakai untuk apa dsb. Yang harus hati-hati adalah INO pada proyek-proyek yang masih "coming soon," apalagi belum ada prototipe/demonya. Bisa-bisa proyeknya ga jalan.
1428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Q:Why isn't the Shocking Ethereum Fees discussed more in Media? A:... on: December 09, 2021, 04:04:24 PM
Because people in the media are clueless.

It's clear that reworking the protocol is extremely difficult, hence I think the ETH 2.0 will never really working as planned. They will still launch "ETH 2.0" but with lots of limitation to avoid bad PR. The base protocol is crap, but fortunately for ETH, there are many good developers in ETH community, so come ICO, DEFI, NFT... That's the main selling point for ETH. Regarding the question about fair appraisal, well all crypto are overvalued at the moment IMO.
1429  Economy / Economics / Re: Tonga will probably be the next country to make Bitcoin legal tender on: December 09, 2021, 03:54:58 PM
Legal tender means people MUST pay with Bitcoin, and that I disagree. I agree with a simple law that states people can freely use Bitcoin as cash or whatever means of payment. People should be free to use what currency they want to use or reject, but that's only exists in an imaginary country... Well, I'd like to see what the law really said before making further comment.
1430  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: December 09, 2021, 02:06:53 PM
Biasa user baru di kasi candu asmara gitu  Cheesy edan nya lagi abis menang yang ini selisih 20 spin dapat lagi scatter total menang 1.4juta langusng cabut dah gua tahu jebakan pasti udah dekat  Cheesy wong gua pernah kok 700-800 spin gak dapat apa-apa di game ini, ini gua mainin karena user baru aja pasti hokinya lebih tinggi
Ini mah mitos aja, kalo semua member baru itu ada kepastian ngasih hoki lebih tinggi pasti banyak situs yang bangkrut kalo dalam sehari ada ribuan users baru. Hoki itu ga kenal mana user baru mana user lama, bisa jadi user baru langsung rekt (saya pribadi mengalaminya dibeberapa situs).
Betul mitos itu, ane depo 4x amblas semua Grin abis itu pause dulu deponya, nunggu kontesnya nyala lagi.

BK8.Official kemana ini? udah lama ga posting disini, apakah tidak ada info2 penting atau info2 menarik yang perlu dishare?
Mimin keknya sibuk ga bisa mantengin forum tiap hari, mungkin harus ikut sigcamp biar onlen terus :v
Yang ane tau bentar lagi ada promo 12.12, katanya:

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1431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NFT on chain vs IPFS on: December 08, 2021, 03:56:22 PM
I just started some discussion on the local community about this issue. Simply put, Dapp blockchain (ETH et al.) isn't a storage for large data. The cost will be too high for storing that amount of data. Therefore, the method will be freezing metadata while using another decentralized storage like IPFS. Not sure if there's blockchain that capable of storing large data and has smart contract capability, or if it's possible without reworking the protocol from scratch. People like to fork, not develop from scratch.
1432  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will there be no more topics to write about? on: December 08, 2021, 03:00:30 PM
There will be always something to discuss, since there are news, new ideas, old ideas from different perspectives, etc. Yeah, some are rehashed or just because someone isn't doing his research. And for the other issue, shitty posts aren't because of no topics left, but because of lack of effort.
1433  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Jaringan Polygon Tersendat on: December 08, 2021, 06:44:48 AM
Salken gan, sebelumnya ini thread sebaiknya dipindah dari board utama ke sub Altcoin.
Memang benar ane kapan hari juga ngecek tidak bisa pakai jaringan Polygon di Binance (asumsi ane Tokocrypto juga idem).
Kalau ane usul ditukar ke USDT BSC saja, lalu transfer USDT ke CoinEX (daftar ga perlu KYC langsung bisa) pakai BSC bisa murah.
Lalu di CoinEX tukar lagi dari USDT ke Polygon, lalu wede pake jaringan Polygon.

Ada solusi lain pakai bridge, cuma ane belum pernah, mungkin bawah ane...
1434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: December 08, 2021, 06:27:27 AM
This week or maybe even for a month is really bad for me in slot games especially in Stake.
Deposits, bonuses, reload, bonus drop were all busted easily without any good hit.
I think I should leave Stake for a while and move to other casinos, or maybe I should play other games.
I still remember you got max hit or so on BK8 while I got rekt on every deposit. It's just the way slots work, my friend, you will win and the lose, lose, lose, and then win again. Repeat in endless cycle Grin

I played on Stake last night, and gain some insight since they support cheap IDR bet. I did countless 20K and 40K IDR Bonus Buy to realize that the losing streak can be so long, but if you keep playing, you will get it back, sometimes less, sometimes equal, sometimes more than your total losses. My deposit was only 1,000K IDR, and it almost got busted, so if you play using USD with minimum bet, $1,000 total loss is normal before bouncing back.

Anyway, switching casino temporary can give you different feeling/mood, so it's recommended. But changing game, unfortunately, there's no way out from slots Grin
Hopefully, the force will be with you again soon.
1435  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why should I use Kucoin over Binance? on: December 08, 2021, 06:06:33 AM
The decision should depend on what coins you want to buy since both have a different asset list. If your preferred coins traded on both exchanges, I'd rather use Binance for higher liquidity. Forget about KYC stuff since ALL centralized exchanges will implement KYC at some point to avoid sanctions.

I did some trade at Kucoin last year but their liquidity is garbage.
1436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot providers... which one is the best?! on: December 08, 2021, 05:58:25 AM
Seeing PnG as the #1 from the poll kinda alarming since even with lower RTPs, people still find their collection "the best." What makes you guys stop playing the provider? ~95% RTP? Cheesy But yeah, their high-RTP old games are still entertaining to play: Legacy of Dead, Rise of Merlin, Tome of Madness, Reactoonz, etc., definitely the golden age of PnG slots.
1437  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: December 07, 2021, 01:58:47 PM
Aw..gw ketinggalan terus ini info terbaru dari bk8, gimana sih cara ikutnya om, boleh tau ngga ada minumum deposit berapa. Eh btw, memang bisa deposit pakai koin? mohon pencerahannya suhu...
Btw udah gambler dari orok belom? Kalo masih baru dan mau coba-coba judi tidak disarankan lho ya. Nanti kalah kita yang disalahin :v

Yoo selamat buat gua  Grin
Yuk ronde 3 nya di tunggu asli JP mulu di bk8  udah menang kontes dapt profit lagi dari main puas banget dah
Selamat buat 1546x + $150, mantab!
Padahal game ini https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/xtriF7P4Ps biasanya bangke Grin

Katanya sih bakal ada ronde 3 nya, ditunggu saja update dari @roycilik
1438  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: bagaimana nasib nft untuk jangka panjang sebagai tempat berinvestasi? on: December 07, 2021, 01:48:31 PM
saya masih heran dengan orang orang yang membeli NFT art, sebenarnya apa tujuan mereka dan apa yang menyebabkan mereka percaya sehingga rela mengeluarkan uang yang cukup banyak. menurut saya uang mereka itu lebih baik di belikan NFT gaming yang saat ini sedang hype juga. jauh lebih berguna  Cheesy
Kalau dari penerawangan ane, banyak yang gak tau detilnya NFT art itu kek gimana, mungkin ada yang berpikir karya seni tersebut hak ciptanya juga dia dapat, gambarnya abadi (on-chain), dsb. Padahal semuanya tergantung DYOR (knowledge seseorang), makanya banyak NFT yg cuma repload ulang alias versi bajakan. Dibalik ketidaktahuan tersebut muncul hype yang bikin orang-orang masuk. Mirip kek hype ICO lah.

Karena emang game crypto beda dengan regular game online, orang2 maen game nya bukan karena game nya itu sendiri melainkan "ROI" investment yang didapetin. Menurut ane pribadi, mau game nya burik, old game selama earning nya bagus dan tinggi maka playernya bakal tetep kok di game tersebut. Baru bakal pindah kalau memang game earning nya udah gak bagus.

Kalau pun ada hot game baru, bakal tetep di coba dan dimainin di waktu yang sama.
Kek fenomena ayam telor dong, mana yang duluan, ROInya bagus lalu dimainkan, atau banyak dimainkan jadi ROInya bagus? wkwkw

Bahkan sampai saat ini saya belum pernah membeli gambar gambar yang disebut NFT itu. Bahkan saya sampai heran gambar yang dihargai sampai berpuluh ETH. Meski memang NFT diciptakan oleh orang seni untuk menghargai karyanya, tapi jika harga itu tidak masuk akal tentu hype sendiri bisa merugikan diri sendiri. Mungkin NFT gambar ini akan menjadi terbatas pada orang yang megerti seni karya, mungkin akan seperti lukisan kalau didunia nyata. Persepsi setiap orang akan berbeda.
Klo bingung mungkin NFT bisa diumpamakan seperti kartu Pokemon, yang langka harganya bisa tinggi sekali. Makanya NFT yang punya gaya kek kartu koleksi ini bagus sih penampakannya.

Kalau bandingannya lukisan tentu berbeda karena untuk memalsu lukisan itu sulit, ukurannya juga besar-besar, jadi wujud fisiknya lebih berasa.
1439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: December 07, 2021, 08:29:33 AM
Allow me to brag about my winnings as well:





After long rekt and crappy contest result, finally I got my money back!
Anyway, it seems Duelbits contest also getting more difficult, I made 9 deposits only got $15 prize  Shocked
No luck for me at Duelbits, but luckily get all back (almost) at Rollbit Cheesy
1440  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: December 07, 2021, 07:46:56 AM
From player who play this game.

Prepare a lot money for this game ~XD, 1$ bet and chase 6x Crazy Time? based on my experience and statis tic data website regular hitting in around more than 120 spin some shit situation can be reached more than 200 spin without hitting CT.

The lucky situation can be hit under 35 spin or around 35-70 spin, and you chase for 6x hitting CT Grin cost a lot money.
Yea, I wasted like 20 bets before realizing I can split the $1 into 2*$0.5 to minimize the risk.
So my strategy was simple. I placed a bet on CoinFlip and Pachinko/Cash Hunt
Finally, after several rounds, I got 15x multiplier from Cash Hunt, translated into $7.5 + $0.5 = $8 win (or 8x) Grin

If you feel the challenges are getting harder and the rewards are not worth it then don't participate, play like you used to play if you get profit then you can try the challenge
Anyway, don't push yourself if you do that chaos will be waiting for you  Cheesy calculation is important especially in gambling, please calculate how much is a decent value for 250 RLB  Grin
Yea, I think I won't participate in the next round, it's outside my comfort zone to play Crazy Time, Crash, and now Black Jack! I don't mind if the challenge is about slots tho Wink
Luckily no chaos for me since with the rest of my balance, I played slots, and guess what BIG WIN!! I'll post the screenshot shortly in Slots Addict Club.

It started with 1855 players on the 1st day and we barely have less than a third on 6th day so the chances to win the Rollbot increase with each day given that you advance to the next day. Its still random but trying to bet on your luck to win Rollbots with less players each day is actually better than having to compete with alot more though
Yeah, it's getting more serious, therefore not fun anymore Sad
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