Inputs had been penetration tested regularly, and on security-critical projects I regularly spend upwards of $5000 on a thorough pentest by professional security forums firms.
made a typo. This is the sticking point with me. TF was smart enough to know that you can't fully secure anything, and even if you make it so hard it isn't worth it, there's always social engineering. Leaving that much sitting around was foolish, and I don't think he's a fool. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't have any explanation other than (i) lazyness (the system wasn't set up to make sending to cold storage easy, and it had to be performed manually), (ii) wanting to keep sufficient amounts on the server so nobody worries/panics, and (iii) about 1500 BTC was deposited within 48 hrs of the hack. The later systems I've built do make sending to cold storage easier, but for the most recent site it was still an manual process. I intend on doing automatic cold storage transfers (hourly cronjob) for my future projects. Do you feel any responsibility or remorse for those people that got screwed because of you? Still feeling the pinch because part of my wedding budget was in coinlenders, as well as, my fiancée's tuition money, and as far as I knew you were going to reimburse people from your own personal stash if anything went wrong (those were the terms I agreed to and was never asked to agree to something different), so I felt like they were pretty safe and obviously wasn't my whole amount. Do you think its fair to sit on a couple hundred shares of AsicMiner, as well as other securities and bitcoin, and leave those you damaged as if nothing happened? Certainly if you think that all of that is OK, you will show yourself at some conference or give out your personal details so people can talk with you face to face, because you don't think you did anything wrong, why would others? |
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Pasting this here for archival purposes In attention to all Minersource customers:
Matt Carson from Minersource has managed to convince our customer support department that we owe them 250 X3 miners. Our customer support did not check if they are paid and partially shipped this order (137 miners were dispatched). These miners were NOT paid and upon confrontation with Matt Carson all communication went blank.
It has been 2 months since the event and we now assume that Minersource has no intetion of paying the X3 miners that we have delivered. As it stands at the moment we are beginning legal procedures against Minersource in USA.
All customers who have ordered from Minersource and had not yet received their order should begin legal procedures against them as they will not receive anything else from Minersource.
HAHA makes me laugh more and more every time I read it, BA, I hope you read this thread too as I really don't want to create another account just to tell you how stupid and incompetent you are. I mean really? You shipped 137 miners that weren't paid for?  ? HAHA checks and balances ftw am I right. Sure sucks to be the one that gets screwed over doesn't it? Still not sure why you would post that here as if anyone would have any sympathy for your lying sorry asses. |
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There's no beating these kinds of people at their own game. They literally have nothing to do all day but figure out ways to fuck you, as evidenced by how they've figured out how to turn every single supposed issue with their product into a way to get more money out of you just to have a remote possibility of being whole. While you're a decent person who actually spends time doing productive things, they sit around all day dreaming up new ways of embezzling your money while pretending to be busy, when the reality is if you get in touch with them about something they feel they can shit on you over, they get in touch with you immediately and keep sending emails as though you're instant messaging them.
yep pay to return product that was defective when they shipped it pay for PSU's for comp miners that have never showed up and now wouldn't be worth plugging in if they did. refunding people in BTC after the price/BTC had halved asking people to pay for hosting claiming their BTC was stolen claiming their customer database was stolen now they're accusing MS of essentially the theft of 130-some miners they're fucking liars and thieves, plain and simple. constantly trying to run one scam after the next. I hadn't heard of the MS stealing bit, could you explain/link? (serves them right though). HAHA, just found it in the other thread! That's great, these cocksuckers are getting whats theirs finally. I bet they come up with something like, because they did this, we don't have the money to make more miners.blah blsh blah. (its also interesting to think about all of the links betweej Matt Carson and BA from Bruno a while back, maybe time to reopen that). Regardless of your thoughts on MinerSource, I can honestly say I am happy that they actually did something right and screwed these guys. I bet the, "legal proceedings" are as much a reality as the email list police report was. |
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There's no beating these kinds of people at their own game. They literally have nothing to do all day but figure out ways to fuck you, as evidenced by how they've figured out how to turn every single supposed issue with their product into a way to get more money out of you just to have a remote possibility of being whole. While you're a decent person who actually spends time doing productive things, they sit around all day dreaming up new ways of embezzling your money while pretending to be busy, when the reality is if you get in touch with them about something they feel they can shit on you over, they get in touch with you immediately and keep sending emails as though you're instant messaging them.
yep pay to return product that was defective when they shipped it pay for PSU's for comp miners that have never showed up and now wouldn't be worth plugging in if they did. refunding people in BTC after the price/BTC had halved asking people to pay for hosting claiming their BTC was stolen claiming their customer database was stolen now they're accusing MS of essentially the theft of 130-some miners they're fucking liars and thieves, plain and simple. constantly trying to run one scam after the next. I hadn't heard of the MS stealing bit, could you explain/link? (serves them right though). |
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Or are you flipping them to morons on ebay?
Nope, got stacks of them in my bedroom all in jewel cases, I think one day they will be treated aw collector items. 4# for one asicminer really?  this price is very low bro. Can you tell why u need it? Um...not sure how to answer this, are you familiar with mining and what one of these produces...bro? EDIT: oh, I think your post is clearly just for your signature campaign,, Quickseller, if your reading this I would recommend not counting this post for this users total as it is clearly just an attempt to boost his stats, I will also PM him and explain this injustice as well. |
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He claims to have lost over 4k bitcoins, how is that very good coding skill? (we know he stole it, but how can you call him a good coder when he says he lost it?)
I believe he was a decent programmer. Even if this wasn't a inside job, it doesn't make you a bad programmer that you missed something which someone else found out. Peoples brains operate differently, or may be more skilled. It doesn't make him a bad programmer. Although, for holding such a large amount of coins, he should of invested in some penetration testing. (He might have) But, as far as I'm aware he coded it himself and probably didn't think it would be a problem checking for security issues himself. Sadly, I too had money stored there. Which I didn't get back (lucky I was wise enough not to store much there), But I'm not going to go throw shit at the wall and call him a bad programmer. Touche, the websites did operate well and efficiently, which would have taken coding skills. I guess I should have called him an idiot for leaving that much in a hot wallet. So I would suppose stupid but gifted at programming is a better way to describe him. Also a liar for telling people he would back up funds with his own and a liar for saying he wasn't going to keep that much in the hot wallet. You could also argue a thief, depending on what you believe happened to the coins. |
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Another idea, how about IP bans for people that go really far into the negative trust (or get enough votes for it, IDK something like that), or people who have created multiple accounts from the same IP that all have negative reps. I have a feeling if you look at most of the scam accusations nowadays, they will probably be towards a single person who does a scam, then makes a new account and starts over. I understand they can easily change their IP in a multitude of difference ways, but it may at least help a little bit in not allowing those members back to the forums.
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Something I thought of while reading this thread (not to sure about implementation though) would be a way to either remove trust from yourself or others (not being the one who originally posted it), have it counted less (kind of already works this way as the person who left it incorrectly probably doesn't have positive trust), or have another category under trust, something like, "untrusted feedback and others agree" that would allow people who simply leave neg rep for the sake of it to be able to be mitigated if others don't really agree with the trust, and agree it should be counted less.
I also like the idea of buttons to quickly add and delete people from your trust list, would really speed up the process after a transaction.
Another point to bring up is what about trusted users who don't really do trades. There are plenty of very knowledgeable forum members who don't spend much time in the markets sections. Lots of people would trust these users, but since they have never traded with them, have not left positive feedback. You start to see a lot of bias towards those who spend a lot of time doing trades in the top 50 members, and start to leave these people out. Perhaps some formula to calculate a number based on forum history (length of time on forum, posts made per week over that time, trust received weekly over that time, etc...) would help to level the playing field a bit?
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TF, I remember some of your sites before the 'fiasco'. Seemed you had very good coding skill. Are you working on any projects, or cryptocoin I am wondering?
He claims to have lost over 4k bitcoins, how is that very good coding skill? (we know he stole it, but how can you call him a good coder when he says he lost it?) |
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Boy would it be nice to see them at a bitcoin conference sometime, unfortunately I can't afford to go because they stole all my money (lol jk, but not far from the truth). |
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BUMP, buying as many as you have, $4 a piece, no case necessary!!!!!
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Not to be a pain or anything, but any ETA on when the points will be fixed as well as when we can start expecting to receive lossback or playback? Also, I sent an email on the 5th to support@betcoin.ag with a picture of my gear and everything else requested and have not heard back. Is there someone who can check on that request for me? Thanks guys, and as always, loving the site. |
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Ahh ok, don't forget about backup generators and fuel in case the power goes down, as well as backup and sometimes even backup of backup of the internet connection.
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I am a little unclear in what you are actually trying to do... I see you are debating about buying a warehouse, but are you only going to run your miners there or are you planning to host miners for other people? You have made a post about potentially looking for investors, but to be honest, without a little more information you won't find anyone willing. I am not saying post the address of the warehouse, but at least give a state that it is in, as people will not be interested in investing without of course going to the place and meeting you, and spending a couple hundred plus dollars per flight for a small operation probably isn't that enticing to most. If you are planning to host for others, my recommendation would be to pair with a pretty trusted individual, that is probably the best security you can do for the site as more people will be willing to send their units to you without needing to know specifics about location and whatnot. Just my general input, good luck with your endevour though.  |
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I am unsure what you mean? The spreadsheet has every pick that he has made and is in no way faulty. I have made money on his picks in the long run and am happy. I leave others to draw their own conclusions, I could really care less. Hows the trolling coming along?
Only 3 bets in Dec? $8 per pick? Not my problem, as said earlier, not affiliated with him in anyway, only keeping a record of the picks. People can choose to subscribe or not on their own, all I have ever done is officially record the picks made. |
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Do you remember the details behind the negative trust you left takagari? It was left in September 2013 which is I believe when your opinion was highly valued and you were still trusted. There is a thread in meta regarding his reputation, feel free to chime in. Done, thanks. How about the negative feedback you left me and in your email said you would remove as I removed the signature when it was brought to my attention that the site was a scam? Surely you remember writing that email to me and saying you would remove it? Here is an actual question, how can you justify giving negative trust to all those who advertised that dice site, for which we will never know if it was a scam or if they really got hacked, but you don't give negative trust to those who advertised inputs or coinlenders, even though there is also no way we will ever probably know if you stole the coins or if they were actually stolen (either way you said you would be liable for all of them when I deposited the coins and I never agreed to any other terms and conditions)? |
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Post Count (including this one): 1597
Address (from BIT-X.com, starts with a 3): 3Kfqq3DFh9SRX1jFxX2G4Gkpv8tUdaUSQ7
Thanks
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It seems you are picking matches with really high odds. Debitme's sports tracking shows a lot of wins but a net profit loss.
Do you have a separate spreadsheet for yourself?
He is the only one profiting. The whole idea is to appear profitable by picking high probability winners in order to gain referral income, or now in this case, direct subscription income. A profitable picker has NO incentive to share his picks in the same way a profitable trader or algo coder has NO incentive share their trading rules/strategy. Its a scam. I've posted this in this thread hundreds of pages ago... Can you provide evidence to back up that this is a scam? I highly doubt you can and providing picks, no matter the odds, for money is not a scam. So please reword/rethink your argument as he has not stolen or mislead anyone in anyway, and in fact, has been very transparent about the way his picks work. To take on your second point, he is not the only one profiting. I have been betting with him before the spreadsheet I started online, and must say, I am pretty far in the green on this. With my winnings, I have bought an Xbox One and am getting ready to buy a big screen TV. Now, you may look at the spreadsheet and see that it is in the negative, and I would agree with you. Late October had a pretty bad 3 game losing streak and we are currently recovering from that. You should also notice that since the loss, the spreadsheet has made back about a bitcoin and a half and will be returning to profit quite shortly. Again though, he has neither hid, nor asked me not to report the loss, which only goes back to attest to his integrity. Your claim that a profitable picker has NO incentive to share his picks the same as a day trader is completely absurd. When a profitable algo developer has developed a script that is able to make money trading, it is in his best interest to keep that software private as the more people using it, the less effective it becomes. Revealing sports picks is quite the opposite, sure the line can be effected, but the reality is that the odds barely get affected, if at all. Please explain why some of the best sports cappers in the world sell their picks for hundreds and thousands of dollars every day? Because there bet is not affected by the play that they release and can collect money for people to ghost them. So in conclusion, you have no basis or grounds for calling this a scam, as he is not stealing or doing anything that he has not advertised that he will do. The spreadsheet I made clearly lists every single one of his bets and odds and it is completely up to you on whether you would like to follow them or not. Please rethink your post and change it accordingly as you are clearly angry and don't understand the difference between a scam and something you don't want to participate in and just can't leave alone. Hows that spreadsheet coming along? I am unsure what you mean? The spreadsheet has every pick that he has made and is in no way faulty. I have made money on his picks in the long run and am happy. I leave others to draw their own conclusions, I could really care less. Hows the trolling coming along? |
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how in the fuck does that piece of shit BlackArrow seem to have a positive trust rating?
is it just me or is something fucked up with the trust system. even his trusted ratings seem negative.
anyone?
Looks pretty negative to me. Check again. Maybe also because I left him negative feedback myself. it does look negative today, as it should. totally different from what was being shown yesterday for some reason. Reading through the posts on the moderated BA thread, it seems that Ognasty has taken appropriate steps to remove some positive feedback that was left and give BA the proper negative trust rating that these scammers and low lives deserve. Good job Ognasty, everyone should for the most part see BA with a negative trust rating now. If you have not done so already, please go and leave negative trust for the users BA and David. |
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