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2361  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 30, 2016, 06:10:11 AM
If you have a family ,it will teach you how to save money for your future. But if youre single and dont have any plans for the future you will not know what is the meaning of saving if your totally have nothing.


Best way to save money is to invest in something later that you are worth it. If you have money in cash easy for you to spend it on some unimportant things. I also think it's a very good thing to invest money in real estate, rent and real estate for several years, then sell it again and be positive.


but real estate need lots of money to invest. you can't even buy a peace of land with thousands of dollars. but if you have lots of money then probably yes. real estate is a way to safe your money. because paper money won't be safe for long. buying real state will safe your wealth for long time.
and buying gold is also a good way I guess.
Well, for me, that was really my dream to have a real state business but my current status now won't allow me yet to do that business, I am just a simple man having a day job and have work also here in the bitcoin community, I just hope I can save now and invest with bitcoin so I can make my goal in the future.
2362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: LUCK!!! :) How does it feels? on: July 30, 2016, 06:04:27 AM
I was told by a former online casino employee. That most software comes with settings that whenever someone takes a bonus. The software allows the feel of winning to ensure play time. But after a certain point a new pay table is selected from the RNG and a losing streak begins. It doesn't matter what game you switch to.
I dont know if youre really saying the truth but that thing actually comes into my mind before. That thing making me uncomfortable and preventing me to go outside and play in online casino.
That happens because we are just players and we are not setting the game, they set the rules so they know if the games are rigged or not, sometimes we feel lucky and it could also be the time that we are just given a chance by the house to experience it and we are so overwhelm and would make us come back again.
2363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: July 30, 2016, 05:48:52 AM
Its unfortunate that people have lost so much that when they look back they crib why they gambled. Gambling is of course very bad to do. And people must know that. You will get easily addicted to it and that is the bad thing.

It depends.. If you are always watching how you spend your money and where you spend it, for sure, if you try gambling, you won't get addicted, you will always be aware of your losses.. Addiction might only start if you keep on opening up your wallet and freely bet what you wish to bet on the gambling site...

this only depends on the person who is gambling, because it depends on your personality to get addicted or not. some people get hooked up so easily and they lose themselves in the illusion of gambling and will only snap out of it when it is already too late.
That's true because we also have different percentage of being greediness, and the greedier you are the more you can easily hooked in gambling because we can have here instant money but some of the time, we can also lose money in an instant.


The sure one is every people always greedy and it's really hard to not greedy on gambling, especially when you win big on gambling. I think greedy is the big problem on gambling.
We cannot say there are no people that don't have greed. All of us has a greediness, we all wants money and who’s not? Don’t be hypocrite we all need money all the time, some people wants to gamble because they really want instant money but for me this is not the right way to earn money.
And they are blinded by the big reward and failed to think of the possibilities if they can really earn money in gambling. Sometimes we are so desperate that we will resort to gambling to make instant money but the reality will tell us that we cannot do and rely on gambling alone.
2364  Economy / Speculation / Re: How will halving affect the value? on: July 30, 2016, 05:39:32 AM
You are right, if the price will remain stable we should be thankful enough as this year we witness a good price. However, the halving is done and we know that price will rise so take the opportunity to buy since the price has not increase that much.

The price of bitcoin will rise gradually after September or October. That was what happened in 2012.
yeah, i remember the first halving that happened, i hope that the same thing will happen after this halving too
I am pretty sure it will happen but will only happen to those people who can hold their bitcoins, patience is very important as halving is done already and all we have to do now is wait and witness the good news that is about to come.

That is right. The bitcoin price will rise in the long term. So we have to be patient to make a very big profit.
Well, we have no choice but to wait if we want to make money of the price increase, bear in mind that any investment that would have a abrupt increase or fall back is not good for future investment and what is currently happening to bitcoin now is good for future investment.
2365  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 30, 2016, 05:30:37 AM
Bitcoin has been rising up this past few weeks and continue to rise, what do you think?
will bitcoin continue to rise at the end of the month or it will have a sudden drop?

We can't surely predict that but for me, Bitcoin will surely go at least 700$ Before 2016 ends.
That is easy to achieve that this year alone, not to mention, the price you are talking was already achieved last month when the price began to skyrocket and unfortunately it fall back to $600+ and have stabilize their, maybe in the following months we could see $700.

Just a maybe but really i doubting that bitcoin will still continue to rise because as we see were experiencing stable price movements and no big events we can see for the flactuations thats why i'd rather say that bitcoin have possibilites to go down next month since people are spending their coins and back to its original form just like we used to do before and only people are now hodling so i dont see any sign of rise nowadays.
Not gonna happen mate, we are not going down again as we have already go down from 700 to $600 which is the current price now. We just have to believe that more people are coming in to use and adopt bitcoin as their way of investment also. Supply will be short because of the increase in demand.
2366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: July 30, 2016, 05:26:44 AM
You can not gamble in a smart way, starting gambling alone is not smart at all! You can try using strategies or tricks but you can lose equally as before. Gambling is betting money on a chance to win, it is based on luck and you can not gamble 'in a smart way'.
Those who cannot gamble are just not good in trying to take risk, we also need to learn how to risk because that is our only way to get out on our comfort level and to grow, say for example if you are working now and you are just contented being an employee for the rest of your life, you will never be rich so in order to achieve your goal you need to have your own business.
2367  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: July 30, 2016, 05:21:11 AM
Just recently got into BTC; I have 2.5 saved up.
Plan on taking 25% of each of my paychecks and accumulating and seeing what will happen in 2017 or later in the year.

Thoughts? Ideas? Speculation? Advice? Tips?

 Huh

My suggestion is not to discuss how many BTC you have saved up on a public forum Smiley
why? its because vulnerable to be a target of hacker who wants your bitcoin?
i don't think that sharing how much you have saved up publicly will affected to something serious ,
just do not be too outspoken ,
anyways taking 25% of your paycheck are more than enough , i myself just take 10% only and i have kept it since last year.
Only fool would publicly made a statement that he is holding a great number of bitcoins. When you do that you are already putting your investment at risk and you could be surprise in one day your bitcoins are gone, hackers are everywhere so we need to be very careful as they are skilled enough to do almost the impossible.
only a fool one too who just believe everything that strangers stated lol ,
do you believe me if i say i have invested and saved 10k bitcoin in my bitcoin qt wallet since 2010 ago?
lol if you just believe on it ,
take it easy and do not be too outspoken .
Definitely, if you have a good amount of bitcoin in your wallet you will not publicly say it that you have because you are risking your bitcoins and yourself, some are just watching us and if they will have a chance they will steal from us.
2368  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: July 30, 2016, 05:18:03 AM
It's not every day i used bitcoin . Every month I spend it for paying electricity, water , and monthly premiums to SSS . But sometimes it also takes money to buy me with the school for the project for not  relying on my parents . So if you have some left , I leave it to my bitcoin wallet to grow my savings . It would be nice because if it be spent monthly for greater carry you money .


But I spend my bitcoins a lot on the online bitcoin market, because there is more to buy these days.
I also gamble a lot but this is with low amounts only so I will not lose a lot at the end. Sometimes getting profit also from that.
Gambling a lot of time is sign of addiction and in no time you will be addicted if you cannot limit your time in gambling. I believe in order to save your bitcoins you should not be involve in gambling otherwise you will become a sole spender that would help the market but would not help yourself at all.
I don't  consider gambling frequently is a sign of drug addiction.  What if it is his job? and it is the only means in earning money?  Unless the signs of which the professionals indicate has shown on that person then he is a possible gambling addict.  Though I agree that if you want to make sure that your bitcoin is safe, you should avoid gambling at all cost. 

Wait. Wait. A job to just gamble? I would love to have that job. But aint that risking your life. If that is a job you have a manager that is funding it. What if you always lose? How can you repay the debt that you have? They might kill you in the process.
If you can assure win in gambling you should not consider that as your job, make it as your investment and that is called investing in gambling when you are mostly like a handicappers who are professional enough to bag more wins than loses.
2369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 30, 2016, 05:11:14 AM
So I hear the theory going around is that if the Bulls are out of it
come January then the Bulls are going to trade Wade to the Cavs
for him to reunite with bron bron. They only brought on Wade to sell
season tickets because people were pissed they let their stars go.

I'm not much for conspiracy but that makes more sense to begin with
then him leaving the heat for the bad Bulls who gave away their stars.

I don't have much info about Wade's contract, is that even possible? Besides, I don't think Wade would just leave. He went in there because he has Chicago roots.
I believe chicago will be the last stop of wade. He will surely do good their with team rebuilding but having butler as his sideline they can make a great team, let us just hope that wade will continue to be healthy so he can compete very well with other team especially the cavaliers.
2370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: July 29, 2016, 03:16:46 PM
I think any excuse to gamble. gambling or house will not be thinking about why you and win you just because you have a different reason when gambling. even if you play to have fun. if you lose the glittering gambling game. of course gambling will hurt you. I think the smart rich people will not seek pleasure in gambling
I dont think a smart rich person want to get money in gambling, since he is smart and rich, which it means he has great job in his life that can give him much money. I think the reason he goes to casino is just because he wants to spend his time and test his luck.
You have a point, rich people that have a stable job/business will not go to the casino unless he invited his friends to join them and play in gambling places, well some also of the rich people can become greediness because once you are rich you don't really want to lose money instead use their money also in business and another business and another. But once they go to their friends and go to casino places they will not notice that they can lose also money too.
Well I guess that's the advantage of being a rich person, you won't notice how much money you have lost in casino, and you dont need to worry since you still have much in your bank account, and you could get more from your business lol. But still, a smart person always considers every step he will take, include in gambling.
That's true, if you are a smart person and you use it always in your business well I think you will not lose lots of money in gambling or else you will never go in casino to play, instead you will just go there just to hang out with friends.
Rich do gamble not for the money but for the fun and you are right it is better to gamble with your friends and by saying it that would mean that you gamble in physical casinos like Vegas where the rich goes to have more fun, they don't only gamble but also drink with girls.
2371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 29, 2016, 03:13:05 PM
Both, I earned 0.05btc so far by gambling. but,actually I also enjoy gamble. infact,I became addicted on gambling. I enjoy it so much and I won't stop gambling.I gamble for not only profit but also for fun. Grin

So your reasons are both fun and profit. But if the time comes that you lose all your money I don't think that is also fun at all. If you gamble for fun make sure don't use all your money/bitcoin here. Just use your extra money and not your personal income here. So that in the end, you will not end up to be a loser.

Heheh ^^ Yes the winning part makes it fun. Losing is not especially when it's money you are losing. But people can't help control themselves to use more money to get their spare money back because they think of all the things they could have bought.
That's the problem in gambling we don't have self-discipline. Sometime we need to stop after winning in the game, so that in the end we will blame our self, why we should not stop when we almost have the money. Well that's the gambling use to be.
Easier said than done dude, you cannot do it all the time that you will automatically stop as soon as you win in gambling and not also all the time you will win in gambling as in most cases we are in the losing side. Besides, if you can stop now because you are winning you will still come back tomorrow and might lose that time around.
2372  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: July 29, 2016, 03:08:54 PM
I only buy bitcoin when i need it,and when i have money to buy some amount of it,and  i wait for three to four months to sell it and make some.profit.
You only wait when you can guarantee that the price will increase in three to four months. For me, that is just a short term investment and usually that would not happen all the time that the price will increase in a given projections. If that trends happens all the time then we are all rich here already.
2373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 29, 2016, 03:05:14 PM
I have quit gambling since it does not pay out for at least me it doesn't. Have tried it but it is just not for me. Maybe it has worked out for most here but some of the unlucky few like me have not made anything from our playing into the games.

It's a most excellent and it was great. For I see that you are losing control of themselves while doing gambling, so a defeat is always in you. gambling is indeed profitable, but it only last a while and if we do not soon take control of yourself then it will be very detrimental to the
Gambling is never profitable but investment in gambling sites is surely the one that is profitable. If you read the statistics and history of gambling, you will find out that gambling sites are more profitable and they are exploding due to the large market of bitcoin gamblers.
2374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: LUCK!!! :) How does it feels? on: July 29, 2016, 03:01:19 PM
I haven't been lucky for a long time now and it sucks. I miss that feel of hitting on a lucky strike, it lasts for a very short period of time but its one of the best feels. The good side is the fact that if you are in a long streak of no good luck, it statistically means that you are closed every day.

I think you are talking about was gambling. Indeed I have never seen anyone who has the advantage of a very long time in gambling, that there are those who benefit are briefly and after that they will be addicted and lose all their money, but some are not because they could control themselves
You have to be a gifted person who are destine to be rich in gambling in order for you to beat the advantage of gambling sites in the long run. Few people can do that but they cannot do it in dice games and any other games that has a house edge. Card games is their game and also sports betting.
2375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 28, 2016, 03:04:00 PM
I actually gambling for profit but untill now i almost never got profit because my greed. so my suggest if you gamble your money dont be greedy or you can lose much money like me.

Gambling for profit is a mistake. That equals rage, depression, and loss. You will see that later if you already didn't. I myself gamble just for fun, which most of the time gives me profit too.
This must be a smart way of gambling when you are aiming for gambling pleasures but fortunately you are ending up with profits from your gambling. Yes, it is highly possible. If you are not caring about making profits from your gambling, you have better chances to control your gambling to make it profitable while finishing it up.
I think we all have that goal in the first but when we experience losing that is when we change the plan, we seem to be very aggressive when we lose and would result to chasing our bets as we do not want to stop having a big amount of loses in gambling. In the end, it is a different story that ends up to the bad one.
2376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: July 28, 2016, 03:00:34 PM
Being “rich” can mean different things to different people, but I believe it means having the financial freedom to achieve your goals and live the life you want. Regardless of our education, profession or lifestyle, most of us are not where we want to be financially and our reasons are probably more similar than different.

You mean financial freedom as in getting out of the rat race? That will be the best to achieve but that need to come to a good flow of passive incomes. You can be rich now but if you dont have passive income, your rich status is only temporary. And gambling is not consider a passive income.
Exactly, to be able to have a passive income, you need to be an investor or do have a good business that is profitable and would consistently give you money. That is financial freedom for me, having that freedom is everyone's dream that is why we are striving hard to have our own business that we can manage in the future.
2377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are your favorite gambling games? on: July 28, 2016, 02:56:26 PM
I always to go for two different type of gambling at the same time in two different sites.
When I am into sports betting usually in cricket, it takes a lot of time to get the result of my betting. In this meantime I prefer to go for dice or slot gambling just my find my luck for that day to predict the outcome of my sports betting.
I think most serious gamblers here love sports betting, me either cannot resist the temptation in sports betting as I really love to play my favorite sports, since NBA is done for the season, I am currently playing in local games of basketball in our country and I am having fun every time I do it win or lose.
2378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: July 28, 2016, 02:42:08 PM
for now there are strategies that I used to gamble in a sports betting. but, I just use a big gamble if the play is a strong club and they fight a new club, or unpopular. I think is very good for a big bet on the game. of course there is a risk you have to accept, but all businesses also have risks.
Well its still risky not a safe strategy but it will work for sometimes not at all..
Still now there is no the best strategy but choosing sports betting is one of the best to do because its easy to predict than the other game.

I think there is really no safer way in gambling than to bet small amounts, because if you can bet that we can just afford to lose it is okay to lose, But if we bet more money that we cannot afford to lose I don't think that was good.

Well ofcourse betting small amounts is better if you lose. But what if you win, you won't win much. The point of this discussion is to find some kind of method that he smart and works in the long term but so far nobody has been able to find the secret.
The what if word is really disturbing in gambling, we are just all relying on the "what if", and that is not good if you are a real gambler who aims for money. You should put in your mind that you will win and not what if, before you bet you need to analyze the match up and put your bet on base on your analysis.
2379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: July 28, 2016, 02:27:09 PM
I think any excuse to gamble. gambling or house will not be thinking about why you and win you just because you have a different reason when gambling. even if you play to have fun. if you lose the glittering gambling game. of course gambling will hurt you. I think the smart rich people will not seek pleasure in gambling
I dont think a smart rich person want to get money in gambling, since he is smart and rich, which it means he has great job in his life that can give him much money. I think the reason he goes to casino is just because he wants to spend his time and test his luck.
You have a point, rich people that have a stable job/business will not go to the casino unless he invited his friends to join them and play in gambling places, well some also of the rich people can become greediness because once you are rich you don't really want to lose money instead use their money also in business and another business and another. But once they go to their friends and go to casino places they will not notice that they can lose also money too.
Well I guess that's the advantage of being a rich person, you won't notice how much money you have lost in casino, and you dont need to worry since you still have much in your bank account, and you could get more from your business lol. But still, a smart person always considers every step he will take, include in gambling.

There's a lot of rich people who gamble....They're just smart enough not to make it a habit.  If they let it become a habit, then they probably wouldn't be rich anymore.  Gambling is form of entertainment for the rich....they have fun going to the shows, visiting clubs, and hanging out with hookers in sweets.  It's much fun.

Actually the rich people gambling only for fun and they don't care if they lose their money on gambling. If i were rich i also do gambling too, because i have much money.

whether you are happy to gamble and spend your money? I think basically if someone playing gambling with put their money, this is not included gambling for fun. but if you are playing with free money, it can be said for fun, because you will not lose money.
You can say it for fun because you are rich you have a lot of money to consider even you lose it we can include gambling as our entertainment that gives us happiness specially if you are already old man.
Well, you cannot blame his as that is his liberty of having a lot of money to gamble. The real essence of gambling does not really rely only on money in order to enjoy it, by playing it for fun, you will be more interested in the game than the reward itself.
2380  Economy / Services / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃ Signature campaign information on: July 28, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
So this is it? Looks like another good campaign incoming.

Anyway, I would like to recommend to a person that would think would probably help your campaign and understands his campaign members as well.
That is none other than yahooo.

Nope, I have talked to Baryom few months ago about signature campaign. As I understand from our conversation, he is not going to run any signature campaigns for bitsler, he believe that its better to use the funds for other promotions where active players will have more advantages rather than having signature campaign.
It was few months ago, not really sure if he changed his mind recently but I think he is still on his first decision.

I think he changed his mind that is why this thread is created, that would be awesome and with the increasing members of this forum if would be a great improvement on the marketing side of BITSLER. Hope to see this campaign soon.
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