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2361  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BFX tokens; worth anything? When? on: August 09, 2016, 06:21:32 AM
I wonder if they will pull this off.  If they do, will the BFX tokens actually gain in value?  Will they finally become equal to the loss?  How long could that take?  This is going to be an interesting journey from a large hack.  Hopefully it goes better than the way MtGox went.  Liquidation doesn't seem like a very good path either.

What gimmick is this? They lost their customer's funds and now their planning on releasing their own tokens? For what? To make money out of those poor people who lost money in their site? That is some whole new level of scumbaggery right there. Just withdraw all your BTC from the site and demand that you get the whole amount.
2362  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bible-bombing: Swedish church to barrage ISIS areas with word of God on: August 09, 2016, 06:14:39 AM
Bible-bombing: Swedish church to barrage ISIS areas with word of God

A Swedish church wants to bomb areas controlled by Islamic State in Iraq with mini-Bibles in Arabic. The church argues that people need a reminder that Christian love can reach them, even in places where they are being denied their freedom.
The Livets Ord (Word of Life) church in Uppsala proposes using drones, flying at high altitude, to drop the Bibles, according to the Varlden Idag publication.

“The Bibles are the size of pill boxes and have a display. They require no electricity, but work on their own,” Christian Akerhielmm, the mission’s director, told SVT.

https://www.rt.com/news/354849-swedish-church-bibles-isis/

 Grin

That is funny. Expect the largest book burning event in the history of the world coming. ISIS takes advantage of the people through fear tactics and fear propaganda. I do not think that "bible bombing" will work in encouraging the people in areas under ISIS control to go against their rulers. Or maybe it will. It did wonders during the Roman era once.
2363  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's Time for the U.S. to End once and for all the Middle East Issue. on: August 09, 2016, 03:02:04 AM
OP, it isn't as simple as that. There are things that are happening behind the scenes that they're not telling us. For all we know, they all want the region to be in a perpetual war. Even the nations themselves who declare they want peace. Remember that war is also a source of opportunities for profiteers.
The US doesn't want that and never has wanted that.

Think about it.  Instability in the Middle East jacks up oil prices, because the futures market is hedged against the expectation of future shortages.

Those who benefit from that are those in the Middle East with oil.  For example, the Saudis...

They seem curiously to sit to the side of conflicts which never touch them, exerting subtle influences.  Leaving all that aside, monetarily, they certainly benefit from higher oil prices.

Meanwhile, the US Fracking industry has directly caused a dramatic drop in oil prices, which nobody seems to be able to control.



But do not forget, the US is not wholly dependent on oil from the Middle East. The US has the largest oil reserves in the world and it can last them more than 100 years. And even a longer time than that if there comes a time to ration it. In fact it is still growing. They will not stop hoarding oil because it is one raw product that the whole world will need when it runs out. There's a theory that the source of fossil fuels will not last. The US knows this.

Also one thing about a perpetual war in the Middle East that the US wants is it makes them gain leverage over the region. They have the weapons and are willing to supply it only to those who ally with them. It's also a business.

2364  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you also think that USA is the biggest plague of the world? on: August 09, 2016, 02:55:10 AM
I just want to know if I'm the only one aware of that.
USA actually brought nothing on this last century but the destruction of the world. The whole middle east situation is entirely their fault. The overwhelming power of oil companies is their fault. The absurd market deregulation is their fault. The nonsense power of banks on the rest of the world I their fault.

But you can also add instability of south America,  consumption society, the absurd (and false) trust in a growth society.

I mean,  USA is probably the biggest mistake of France. As a French I truly apologise, we should have never sent any troops and firepower to the USA when they were at war with UK.  Sorry again people.

It isn't simple as that. The USA could be argued that it has brought both good and bad in the world.  All of the small wars and skirmishes around the world are planned by them to serve their ultimate agenda to maintain their status as a world super power.  And yet they also brought a lot of good by way of scientific breakthroughs and advances in technology that could help save the world.

Before thinking in extremes, it would be nice if everyone could stop, and think deep about the arguments from both sides.  Too much extremism on one side of the spectrum always doesn't bode well for us as a species. 
2365  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton on: August 08, 2016, 02:18:34 PM
I dislike them both. One politician who I think that really gets it somehow is Ron Paul. He strikes me as a person who always tries to be true to himself and the people around him.
2366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Two hacks and two approaches - is Bitcoin is looking better than Ethereum? on: August 08, 2016, 02:06:01 PM
We have seen the hacking attack of reportedly 60M USD from Bitfinex and the attack of the DAO for reportedly around double that amount.

But after both attacks we have seen two very different things happen.

In the case of the Bitfinex attack there isn't even the slightest suggestion that some sort of "hard fork" would be offered by the Bitcoin Core developers (so they are just going to have to wear their loss for their mistake) but in the case of Ethereum we have now ended up in a "fork war" with ETH vs. ETC (and ironically ETC is actually the "original" code with ETH now being a fork).

Opinions?


In my opinion anyone even suggesting to do a hard fork to bail out a few key people in Bitcoin will be taken as some sort of joke. No one would dare suggest it.

Let me ask you this. Who among the big investors of the DAO are the more prominent Bitcoiners?

I suggest asking them what their opinions are.
2367  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why would customers use Bitcoins? on: August 08, 2016, 01:57:05 PM
Of course I aware that there are different situations with different banks but some of them charge you for using their card as a method of payment and if you are using Bitcoin you only pay a transaction fee which is small and unsignificant. I think that's one of of the main reasons why would customers use Bitcoins.
Yes, you are absolutely right. In my place, the banks usually charge me whenever I transfer money to somewhere or even when I take only a small amount of cash out of my credit card.

That really annoys me and I can’t save much money with my credit card but bitcoin is way more better. I not only save a bunch of money but also I can earn a little bit just by doing nothing. And it doesn’t cost much for transaction fee so that’s why more and more people are using bitcoin.

As a Bitcoin user you also have a responsibility to encourage other people to use it. Each person you get hooked in Bitcoin is another person that has become introduced in a new way of thinking.

Bitcoin for me is a gateway to anti-oppression and freedom.
2368  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's Time for the U.S. to End once and for all the Middle East Issue. on: August 08, 2016, 01:40:19 PM
OP, it isn't as simple as that. There are things that are happening behind the scenes that they're not telling us. For all we know, they all want the region to be in a perpetual war. Even the nations themselves who declare they want peace. Remember that war is also a source of opportunities for profiteers.
2369  Economy / Services / Re: Let's Think About the Future | Signature Campaign | (All Ranks Welcome) on: August 08, 2016, 01:27:51 PM
Hey guys, I'd like to join your campaign. I'm a newbie but I'm sure I'll be able to help out in my own little way. Thanks! Wink

Username: pinkflower
Position: Newbie
Current Post Count: 4 (Including this one)
Your BTC Address: 1DRbWEKuA86rJXCE2L6Y8dNHFyddRwaQBB
2370  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Corporations and Bitcoin on: August 08, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
In my country, Bitcoin is really recognized already but I'm afraid of what they mean about "rules" and "regulating":

http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=TopStory&title=bsp-readies-rules-for-virtual-money-crowdfunding&id=128609

It makes me think that involvement with corporations is far away from happening yet.

Maybe the corporations in your country really fear cryptocurrencies and is using their influence in politics to push for regulations to gain control of it. But they don't understand the technology fully so they need to surpress and undermine it for now. Cryptocurrencies empower the people so much and they don't like it. They like to oppress people and making themselves richer in the process.
2371  Other / Archival / Re: 0.10 Bitcoin Per week on: August 08, 2016, 12:52:10 PM
Yes definitely. Find a real world job, get your wage and exchange it into bitcoin. This is much easier than earning bitcoin directly.

This is basically the most practical advice. It is also the most doable. I suggest you follow it, OP. There's no other way to earn anything except to work for it.
2372  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex asks users to help in Recovery on: August 08, 2016, 12:29:33 PM
I think it's very unfair for their users to be asked to foot the bill. They messed up and have no right to do this. This should be investigated thoroughly and deposts/withdrawals/trading should be suspended until the hows and whys of the hack is resolved.
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