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23601  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Illogic Paradox on: May 15, 2015, 10:04:57 AM
what i mean that bitcoiners keep 50000$(exmple)"Fortun" in PC with 500$ is it logic ?

in my point of view they have to be affraid about their safety,i don't know but i think its a problem,Almost our transactions are not anonym so anyone
could know how much we have in our wallet,so we will be all "targets" (we have to paid bodey gard for our PC)

i keep alot of wealth on something worth half a penny..

its called a piece of paper (wallet) and no one can hack it unless they are physically at the location.. and even then it would be hard to obtain
23602  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Using the blockchain as a ledger for stocks? on: May 13, 2015, 02:12:29 PM
It seems unwieldy to have each share represented by an address. For example, Apple has about 6 billion shares. Just the initial distribution of 6 billion shares would require more than 200 GB of space on the block chain.

people dont buy just 1 share. thus numbers of tx's will be far less than you predict. also companies can send out tx's in batches to reduce data volume.

also most tx's would be done offchain. EG people deposit onto the nasdaq and then mysql databases log most daytrading transactions and then only do onchain tx's when people withdraw funds to make their own personal bearer certificates or to move between exchanges (LSE, NYSE, etc)

take for instance current bitcoin exchanges. more tx's happen offchain due to coinbase, btc-e, bitstamp, etc than happen onchain (person to person)
23603  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Girls use Bitcoin in strip clubs ? on: May 11, 2015, 09:44:45 PM
Bitcoin used for strippers happens on the net and also on bitcointalk when they post accepting bitcoin for a strip show and 9 out of 10 they charge stupid amounts of coin per min. Maybe I should become a male stripper and get paid in Bitcoin loads doing it maybe maybe not lol.
That's right, I've seen some girls selling skype shows for Bitcoin in the services section. Strip clubs are a thing of the past. To part Bitcoin nerds with their coins you got to have a webcam Wink

correction
That's right, I've seen some girls selling skype shows for Bitcoin in the services section. Strip clubs are a thing of the past. To part Bitcoin nerds with their coins you got to have a webcam Wink..cos they sure as hell wont leave the basement.

most people in bitcoinland cannot even have the guts to visit a retail store and ask the shop to start accepting bitcoins, and you think they will have the guts to talk to a woman, in real life with her boobs hanging out..
23604  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When would be the moment you consider BTC's future is assured? on: May 11, 2015, 12:18:16 PM
I just want to be able to spend it so for me to be assured I would need to be able to walk down the high street or mall and be able to spend it in many shops. Doesn't have to be all of them but if they can accept credit cards which 99% seem to do then they can also accept bitcoin.

bitcoin has no arms and legs or mouth to sell itself.. its the bitcoin users IE YOU, that need to promote bitcoin.
have you talked to the shops in your town about bitcoin?

unless shops see that there is a demand/need to offer bitcoin, they wont bother. so start asking shops about bitcoin to try showing them there is a demand.

after all if the shops YOU visit don't even know YOU want them to have bitcoin payment options, its unlikely that they will offer it to YOU.

this is not a personal attack on anyone, just a hopeful realization to anyone reading this that you yourselves need to do the work, because bitcoin is just code.
23605  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Hack? &Competitors? on: May 09, 2015, 10:02:02 AM
Trying to build more trust (or credibility) in the currency.

Is it safe to say that Bitcoin is...

Number one of all crypto currencies
Here to stay has a life cycle to last atleast until 2140, then after that who knows
Unstoppable even if only 2 people mined bitcoin and exchanged cash in hand without banks or gateway restrictions. bitcoin will continue
Error-proof so far as thousands of programmers have tested and tried breaking it, it hasnt broke
Double spend impossile bitcoin-bitcoin onchain transactions yes, but as for businesses that rely on MY-SQL offchain tx's.. thats a different story
Hack-proof unless you have enough hashpower to undo previous blocks and catch up to current block
Inflation-proof yes, unless your buying offchain MYSQL database values (fake bitcoins)
(And anything else anyone wants to add to this list)

Also I saw something in the news recently about how the data or something is growing to large and will eventually overload Bitcoin...
its been 6 years and bitcoin is 33 gigabytes, thats because although 1mb blocks have a potential of 52gb a year fill... so you would think bitcoin was 300gb... yet so far most blocks are only 20% or less filled (on average).

even if bitcoin moved to a 20mb block is only a 1 terrabyte a year POTENTIAL fill. these days a 3TB drive (atleast 3 years potential) is available in most shops and in 3 years time even bigger sizes will be available.

its like people complained that the internet wont expand due to 56k modems.. yet ADSL and fibre came along..

all you need to know is right now the blockchain can fit on your finger

23606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Hack? &Competitors? on: May 09, 2015, 09:47:47 AM
the 51% attack is not a "hack".. but if you think about it analogically, a laymans geek speak would be a DDOS attack.

it can only affect bitcoin if someone has enough hash power to control it, and can only last while those that have the power can maintain it.

it can only affect incoming transactions as they appear, and attempts to change old transactions would require alot more hash power and computing to attempt to alter past blocks, confirm them and then catch back up to the latest block number.

to change the last block the hash power needs to be 2x the 51% to be able to confirm last block and current block before other pools. to change a block 2 blocks back requires 3x the 51% hash amount .. so if they only have 51% they can only change live blocks. if they have 102% hash they can only alter transactions from 10 minutes ago..
in short, the only possible attack damage would be a DDOS type (denying users tx's to be added)

and if a 51% was to happen. most retailers and exchanges would become very cautious about deposits and withdrawals, and retailers would become cautious about purchases. but as fast as an attacker can try getting control there are many moral miners who would throw all their hashpower away from the dominating pool to counter the 51%.
aswell ofcourse, as many programmers that are all looking into different methods of preventing a dominating control.

23607  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wrap It Up, bitcoin Is Done on: May 09, 2015, 09:02:13 AM
Yea well the simple fact is that you can't take Bitcoin more seriously than the 'real' world around you. At this stage it's a case of laypeople possibly throwing a few unimportant dollars at it from time to time. Bitcoin as a non-conformist means you'll never find flocks of mainstream people heavily invested in it and that's ok for now.

meanwhile in new york the first government allowed bitcoin exchange opens..
so this next year of bitcoin is going to move at a faster pace, due to exchanges opening that banks wont block and of course the 2016 block reward halving that will send the bitcoin price into another spike.
23608  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BTC-E lies about instant withdrawals, embezzles new users' funds instead! on: May 08, 2015, 11:27:52 PM
This is what they say on their page:
"Instant deposit/withdrawal all coin".

If you advertise that and just put the opposite in the terms and conditions in order to gain control over OTHER PEOPLE'S FUNDS, you are definitely committing fraud.
They had the chance to return control over my stuff to me, the rightful owner.

dating a slut can be the same.. everyone knows she puts out ... but it takes a couple days to get her to warm up to you.

having a bank account can be the same.. they allow instant ATM withdrawals and cash deposits.. but it takes a few days for the card to arrive in the post.

23609  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Girls use Bitcoin in strip clubs ? on: May 08, 2015, 11:18:09 PM
though there are some places that accept bitcoin.. the whole point of going to a strip club is to step away from the screen and look at real women and to use bank notes as the only excuse you geeks will get to touch a girls skin...

.. seems like some of you are too afraid to touch a real girl and want to hide behind your screens too much..

bitcoin has its place in the world but avoiding female contact is not a good thing to use bitcoin for
23610  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is Bitcoin still a slave of Fiat? on: April 30, 2015, 06:16:14 PM
bitcoin is not an 'it'.. bitcoin is a 'we'

too many people think that bitcoin is a self managing AI that communicates to merchants and teaches/incentivizes merchants to adopt bitcoin.

when people holding bitcoin realise we are the people that need to expand bitcoins reach ourselves. then bitcoin will grow faster.
so anyone complaining that you cant use bitcoin in your neighbourhoods, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
23611  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is Bitcoin still a slave of Fiat? on: April 30, 2015, 04:53:22 PM
Because I can't pay for my rent using Bitcoins.

get your landlord to set up an account with bitpay or coinbase...
tell them it wont cost them anything and if they do, you'll pay them a few months rent upfront, or some other convincer.

after all, just waiting for your landlord to magically come up with the idea themselves without even knowing their tennants even use bitcoin, wont happen anytime soon
23612  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is Bitcoin still a slave of Fiat? on: April 30, 2015, 04:12:25 PM
because alot of people are sat on their hands waiting for someone else to make bitcoin acceptable in their local area..

it's kind of like waiting around all year hoping someone will knock on your door wanting to mow your lawn for free, instead of getting off your ass and cutting your own grass..

luckily i done my bit and im living happily off of bitcoin and buying what i need using bitcoin. my fiat bank account has been left derelict for a few years now. if you too want a life without fiat, then you need to speak to your local shops and inform them about bitcoin. else the only thing you can do in your area is treat bitcoin like a stock.
23613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 12 Million people use Bitcoin today according to XAPO's CEO on: April 21, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
if 12 million people are using bitcoin.. then on average people are only investing $263 into bitcoin..

bitcoins in circulation:14,078,100
possible population: 12,000,000
=average person holding: 1.173175btc each
bitcoin price $225
average investment $263.96 per person


just wait until just 1million financial firms invest $10k each.. the price will rocket
23614  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chargeback in Bitcoin, good or bad? on: April 21, 2015, 06:02:43 PM
the good thing with bitcoin is: you can add chargeback option ON TOP of bitcoin. no problem. you choose which service you want to create.

I immediately think about some insurance system.
You pay x% on top of your product to have the service of possible chargebacks.
Sounds good to me.
Let the market decide if it wants it.


the market has decided.. thats why people prefer the convenience of paypal and banks, instead of using bank notes.

the future of consumer friendly (non-geek) bitcoins will be in the third party services. the blockchain protocol does not need to change.
the problem is that third party services can become as corrupt as the fiat system. so although blockchain protocols do not need to change and regulations of the blockchain do not need to be implemented.. regulations of businesses do..

lets just hope the regulations are not corrupt.... oh wait.. it seems new york regulations might turn out to be corrupt.. lets wait and see
23615  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chargeback in Bitcoin, good or bad? on: April 21, 2015, 12:46:40 PM
chargebacks are not a feature of any money..
not banknotes, not gold, not coins and certainly not bitcoin. nor should it ever be.

however escrow services that store money on behalf of people, EG banks, paypal, gold investment companies. they are the chargeback services.

the bank accounts we all have are not safety deposit boxes of bank notes or gold, coins. they are just separate databases of balances to represent what someone has and these services can change the balances at will.

bitcoin protocol itself does not need any "chargeback" coding, but the feature can be implemented at the businesss service level via offchain transactions within the businesses offchain database of customers balances.

in short. programming bitcoin protocol to void transactions is a recipe for scammy disasters. but webwallets that use offchain balance databases can impliment their own service under the pretense of consumer protection.
23616  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was Bitcoin shut down for 8 hours? on: April 04, 2015, 11:46:33 AM
bitcointalk (this website) which is only a forum and NOT a blockchain NOT a currency.. just a website... was down for several hours a couple days ago...

seriously people need to learn the difference or if they know the difference, atleast explain it better.

its like saying wall street trading markets stalled.. where the reality would be that the financial times newspaper was late to press
23617  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you have a feeling BTC has slowed down a bit? on: April 03, 2015, 07:35:31 PM
After quite turbulent events during the last few years, I somehow feel BTC economy s been slowing down a bit. Maybe people are losing interest after not seeing those price jumps/decreases which we witnessed in the past. I know statistics ll probably dispute my claims but this is just my feeling. How do you feel about it, are people still into BTC?

some say no because:

3 years ago it took ALOT of effort for prices to move from $6.20 to $6.60 in a month ..
but now prices are moving $225-$270 every week roughly.

$50 dollar movement as oppose to 50 cent movement means that alot of dollar is moving about...

.... or (my theory) not much bitcoin is on exchanges allowing movements to be rapid, without much dollar involvement
23618  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shocker!: Bitcoin no longer sponsoring St. Petersburg bowl game. on: April 03, 2015, 07:30:32 PM
speaking as a non american that didnt get to see the superbowl.. it makes it not really international hype.

secondly. anyone got any screen shots or footage of the supposed advertising the sponsorship paid for. because some non americans are still interested in how many nano-seconds of screentime half a million dollars of bitcoin bought
23619  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone reconsidering not reporting BTC in lieu of IRS / Silk Road investigation? on: April 03, 2015, 07:17:10 PM
if you collect stamps, toy trains or other stuff.. you dont report it till you sell it.

unless your using a government registered financial instrument (stocks shares bonds) then its not financial.

in my eyes bitcoin is an asset, thus just like a car or any other antique, you dont need to announce you have it until you sell it and then announce the income (profit) you got for it.

but its best you speak to a financial advisor before making a possible expensive decision. as different countries not only have different rules but also different columns on tax forms of what needs declaring and what doesnt need declaring
23620  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin Really End World Poverty? on: April 03, 2015, 07:05:34 PM
Can bitcoin really do anything to solve world poverty problem? Brian Singer certainly think so. He thinks that Bitcoin can bring minimum everyday earning for people more swiftly than any other economy system.

Is it possible?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2015/04/02/how-bitcoin-will-end-world-poverty/

yes.

even i said bitcoin can do that years ago.

for instance right now bitcoin is stupidly pegged to the US dollar.

this means that based on minimum wage bitcoin is worth:
USA: washington 26 hours 26 minutes labour (washington: min wage $9.47 / btc $250)
USA: california 27 hours 46 minutes labour (california: min wage $9.00 / btc $250)
USA: multiple states 34 hours 29 minutes labour (multiple states: min wage $7.25 / btc $250)
UK: 25 hours 41 minutes labour  (UK: min wage £6.50 / btc £167)
china: shanghai 90 hours 25 minutes labour (shanghai min wage 17yuan / btc Y1537)
china: hainan 170 hours 46 minutes labour (hainan min wage 9yuan / btc Y1537)

but imagine that bitcoin was not pegged to dollars.. but instead pegged to a universal measure of X minimum hours worldwide.

EG today imagine bitcoin was measured as being 40 hours minimum wage labour.
that means everyone around the wold no matter what would get a bitcoin for 40 hours work.
of course as deflation occured and demand rised a bitcoin would be worth 41 hours, 42 hours. etc etc.

which people could easily convert into their local currency without having to think about converting to dollars or worrying about dollars stability
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