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23761  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's bits. on: November 29, 2013, 08:56:21 AM
The British use pound for weight and pound for currency, the Chinese use the word yuan for currency and many other things, without confusion.

Can't say anything about yuan, but a British pound (currency) derives its name from the value of a pound (weight) of sterling silver (a grade of silver). Actually, we need a proper name (something like Satoshi) for bigger units to avoid confusion and possible adverse connotations...
23762  Local / Новости / Re: Хакер опроверг связь между Сатоши и Silk Road on: November 29, 2013, 08:42:13 AM
сам адрес-то, с которого переводили, опубликован?

А с чего такой интерес, неужели самому захотелось порыться?
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23763  Local / Новости / Re: Торговая платформа BTC.SX набирает обороты on: November 29, 2013, 08:11:41 AM
Да, Форекс-кухня с депозитами биткойнах. Не удивлюсь, если вскоре многие форексники на такую модель перейдут - чего с долларами-то морочиться?

Ну почему же сразу кухня? Вот, к примеру, в ВТБ (который не только банк, но ещё и брокер вдобавок), плечо 10 к 1 (или как правильно?) по умолчанию, а чтобы только своими деньгами торговать нужен депозит не меньше ста килобаксов. Однако никто в здравом уме его кухней не называет, хотя и так понятно, что на межбанк они ордера едва ли выводят...

К тому же, одним из направлений деятельности данной конторы вроде предполагается хеджирование позиций в биткоинах против резких колебаний на рынке
23764  Local / Новости / Re: Биткойн потрясет весь мир – знаете почему on: November 29, 2013, 08:01:14 AM
Возможно, что глядя именно на эти камни, Карл Маркс создал свою теорию стоимости (прости господи)... Cool

Не, он тогда бы что-нибудь сморозил по поводу "каменных унитазов", а не "золотых унитазов". Wink

Кому были бы интересны какие-то каменные унитазы...
23765  Local / Новости / Re: Ищем биткойны на $7 миллионов on: November 28, 2013, 09:43:47 PM
http://wp.me/p44Ixo-fG

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Разыскивается: жёсткий диск с биткойн-кошельком стоимостью 7 миллионов фунтов стерлингов. Место для поисков: огромная мусорная свалка в Ньюпорте (Великобритания). 

Ура кладоискателям! Smiley

На таких свалках, как правило, если хорошо порыться, то можно много чего интересного найти. В том числе и пятнадцать человек вместе с сундуком...
23766  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Depressed that I was not an early adopter on: November 28, 2013, 08:42:34 PM
is it more volatile? i know last saturday LTC was trading at $9 and now it's $38.. and there is less reason to believe in LTC than there is in BTC.

I'm not tracing LTC, it may actually turn out that LTC is more volatile, but the logic of what I said still holds true.  Though it was you who said that the ratio between LTC and BTC has increased greatly, I was talking about BTC to LTC ratio (which is logical) and assumed this ratio had grown...
23767  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Depressed that I was not an early adopter on: November 28, 2013, 08:30:48 PM
It is pretty easy to find out. These coins have positive correlation as far as I know, meaning their prices change in unison, i.e. in one direction at the same time. So if the prices grow (for both BTC and LTC) and the ratio increases, that means the numerator (BTC) is more speculative (its price grows faster even in relative terms) than the denominator (LTC) and vice versa...
that makes no sense to me.. you are assuming that BTC and LTC have the same level of infrastructure/support, which is not true at all. if the two had the same level of upside/downside and infrastructure, then you could chalk it to speculation.. but that's just not the case.

You may think as you please really. I'm not assuming anything, everything I do boils down to comparing relative dynamics of two prices. You just have to agree that the price of Bitcoin is more volatile...
23768  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CoinAd.com, a Paid-To-Click that pays you in Bitcoins! on: November 28, 2013, 08:18:57 PM
With a miserable payout of 0.000001 BTC each... I wouldn't even bother to click!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327183.0

You yourself made it illegal to compare between faucets here, so I just try to adhere to the rules as strictly as I can...
23769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Depressed that I was not an early adopter on: November 28, 2013, 07:57:59 PM
If BTC continues rising then the ratio should increase too, thereby making investment in LTC less profitable versus BTC investment. There is a higher speculative element to the BTC price which renders it more volatile than LTC...

huh, don't you mean the inverse? LTC is more speculative. i am now confused.

It is pretty easy to find out. These coins have positive correlation as far as I know, meaning their prices change in unison, i.e. in one direction at the same time. So if the prices grow (for both BTC and LTC) and the ratio increases, that means the numerator (BTC) is more speculative (its price grows faster even in relative terms) than the denominator (LTC) and vice versa...
23770  Economy / Economics / Re: All you need is 0.2 BTC when bitcoin really takes off! on: November 28, 2013, 07:45:30 PM
There are two quantum computers In existence already .. Is it just a matter of time now ?

The computers you refer to are actually not true quantum computers. I'm not that much in quantum computing, but from what I heard the chips there (if you mean D-Wave systems') have only some of the quantum mechanical properties needed for full-blown quantum computing...
23771  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CoinAd.com, a Paid-To-Click that pays you in Bitcoins! on: November 28, 2013, 07:40:35 PM
I am receiving just one add daily for last 5 days what happen why is this going with me I need more adds
There's currently 6 ads available.

With a miserable payout of 0.000001 BTC each... I wouldn't even bother to click!
23772  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Depressed that I was not an early adopter on: November 28, 2013, 07:35:15 PM
Current gold to silver ratio is around 63, so LTC might actually look a bit overvalued at its price of 0.04 BTC right now (mildly speaking)...

That may be true, but the ratio between LTC and BTC has increased greatly - and the perception I speak has been true even when BTC was trading near the $100 price and LTC at $3. It's all speculation…. but I think LTC will ride on the coattails of BTC.

If BTC continues rising then the ratio should increase too, thereby making investment in LTC less profitable versus BTC investment. There is a higher speculative element to the BTC price which renders it more volatile than LTC...
23773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Depressed that I was not an early adopter on: November 28, 2013, 07:05:35 PM
My advice - get into Litecoin trading if you want a lot of upside. Personally, I don't think LTC offers anything significant over BTC, but there is a perception that LTC is to BTC what silver is to gold. With that, one can easily say that LTC has not moved up nearly enough to keep up with the BTC rise. And you can buy a lot of LTC right now.

Current gold to silver ratio is around 63, so LTC might actually look a bit overvalued at its price of 0.04 BTC right now (mildly speaking)...
23774  Local / Новости / Re: Лекарство для больной денежной системы on: November 28, 2013, 05:49:43 PM
Ну, на то, что будет делать наше правительство, я думаю, смотреть будеть не очень интересно, поскольку вариантов действий у него не так много, а фантазией оно никогда особо не обладало. А вот от их американских друзей коллег следует ожидать самых удивительных пакостей, так как, судя по всему, от прямой конфронтации они в явном виде всё же отказались...

Да, от США сотоварищи можно ожидать самых изощренных пакостей, вроде вот таких, например: http://bitnovosti.com/2013/11/13/bankir-hochet-sledit-za-bitcoin-adresami/

Ну как раз банкирам-то, на мой взгляд, особо из-за биткоина переживать нечего. Они и при золотом стандарте совсем недурно себя чувствовали (чего только одна "эра свободных банков" стоит, если кто понимает, конечно), а уж при биткоине произойдёт, так сказать, возвращение к истокам...

Да и про банковскую тайну было бы неплохо им напомнить...
23775  Economy / Economics / Re: All you need is 0.2 BTC when bitcoin really takes off! on: November 28, 2013, 05:41:32 PM
Don't forget about the fact that probably at minimum a million BTC would have been lost forever for lost wallets, private keys thrown away..etc.

Quantum computing could make it possible to recover all those "lost forever" coins. Indeed the Bitcoin protocol won't be what it is now by the time it is possible to perform such tricks...
23776  Economy / Economics / Re: All you need is 0.2 BTC when bitcoin really takes off! on: November 28, 2013, 05:34:42 PM
2040 is a long haul though. Really wonder how many people have the patience to sit through the innevitable crashes for the next 30 years.

Not me. What's the point in being rich if you're so old that you can't enjoy the money and are going to die soon?

Even if it keeps going up and up, I'll probably be out within 5 years.

Perhaps in 2040 being rich would mean no longer being old, whatever your "official" age might be by that time. So it may actually be worth to have the patience to sit through the inevitable crashes for the years to come...
23777  Local / Новости / Re: Лекарство для больной денежной системы on: November 28, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
Думаю, что правительства активно зашевелятся задолго до того, как Биткойн приблизится к миллиону. Вот на то, что именно они будут делать, очень любопытно было бы посмотреть...

Ну, на то, что будет делать наше правительство, я думаю, смотреть будеть не очень интересно, поскольку вариантов действий у него не так много, а фантазией оно никогда особо не обладало. А вот от их американских друзей коллег следует ожидать самых удивительных пакостей, так как, судя по всему, от прямой конфронтации они в явном виде всё же отказались...
23778  Economy / Services / Re: Earn upto 0.6 BTC per month for your signature! on: November 28, 2013, 04:38:38 PM
This is going to be hilarious!!!!!!!

He'll pay the first month, then EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the forums will JUMP ON THE BANDWAGGON!!!

He'll get RIDICULOUS advertising that second month, get a crap ton of people on his site, and then he won't pay month 2.

GJ to everyone who's getting paid month 1!

No, I'm dead sure I won't!
Though if he does really pay out (I'm all for it), I hope that Stunna will raise the payouts for his signature a little...
23779  Local / Бизнес / Re: freebitco.in on: November 28, 2013, 04:23:22 PM
и удавалось хоть что то существенное получить?

0.000002 это совсем не серьезно, пятая часть цента по текущему курсу Grin

Там поначалу повыше курс был... И можно было выиграть с вероятностью 0.0001 один биткоин в час, то есть, если, скажем, имеется доступ к пулу ip-адресов, можно было реально и поиграться. Как я понял из общения с автором, кто-то так в конце-концов и сделал...

А вообще очень странно, что тема в хайпах
23780  Economy / Economics / Re: Are terms pyramid scheme and ponzi scheme misused? on: November 28, 2013, 03:13:37 PM
The guy is bored and sad that he missed out on Bitcoin.  If you are enjoying yourself, great, but if you are trying to reason with him, you may be disappointed. 

He is not only an arrogant schmuck but he is also a hypocritical one at that. Just read below the two quotes of him, one from this thread and the other from another thread made a few days ago

Wow you really doubt the power of the government. I guess you forget who has the bigger guns.

You are not anonymous in Bitcoin. They can attack with the tax agencies without bringing out the big guns. The big guns are the last resort. As the final resort, nuclear winter and the underground shelters the elite have built.

Absolutely no way the elite will hand over the power over the creation of money. They will co-opt it peacefully or by as much violence as it requires.

The government can't enforce taxes if the people and the bond investors are running from the currency, because the government can't pay the police, tax collectors, etc.. The government hyperinflates attempting to do so.
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