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2381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: November 20, 2022, 06:25:45 PM
I think it's safe to say that Qatar will be the outsider in this World Cup. I will be really surprised if they manage to secure even one point in the next two matches. If they score a goal, that will be their biggest achievement.
I understand why you say that, and I think you are right that it will be very difficult for Qatar to win the group stage match if they perform like they did today. Not many people have to be convinced about Qatar especially if they want to win something at gambling, they are very unconvincing today. I only watched the first half, there was nothing to hope for other than an Ecuador win.

It won't be hard for them to win the group. After today's game it's impossible to them to win the group A.
2382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: November 20, 2022, 06:16:39 PM
For more than 60 minutes, I think the game is boring, both from Qatar and from Ecuador. Because here we can see that the quality of world-class games is still not really shown, especially the Qatar game. Because they are the host I think it's only natural. So it's not that thrilling, maybe we can't wait to see the games of big teams like Brazil, Argentina, Portugal, and France.
There is nothing surprising in this opening match as predicted, it's just strange enough that Qatar has been appointed as the host for a long time but didn't prepare its national team well, if they can't score in this match, is it possible for them to score in other matches? I don't think so.
A boring match and not a world class match
I thought Qatar had prepared for it all, but after this match ended, my guess was wrong that they weren't even able to score a goal. Being the host is not always possible for everything, from Qatar we know that it is still far from world-class football competition. Throughout the second half Ecuador continued to attack and almost scored a third goal, on the other hand Qatar could only occasionally control the midfield and it was very difficult to penetrate the Ecuador defense.

Qatar did nothing in today's game. They couldn't control the ball and they are lucky that Ecuador didn't humiliate them with more goals. I hope that this is the last time that FIFA gave the World Cup to a country that doesn't play football.
2383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: November 20, 2022, 06:01:46 PM
For more than 60 minutes, I think the game is boring, both from Qatar and from Ecuador. Because here we can see that the quality of world-class games is still not really shown, especially the Qatar game. Because they are the host I think it's only natural. So it's not that thrilling, maybe we can't wait to see the games of big teams like Brazil, Argentina, Portugal, and France.
There is nothing surprising in this opening match as predicted, it's just strange enough that Qatar has been appointed as the host for a long time but didn't prepare its national team well, if they can't score in this match, is it possible for them to score in other matches? I don't think so.
A boring match and not a world class match

To me this only shows that there are things in the world that money can't buy and that's talent. You can have all the money in the world, but it's not enough to have a team that can compete with the best football national teams in the world. Simply as that. They were preparing their national team but they started only when Qatar was confirmed to be the host. 10 years is not enough time to build the national football team to be among 32 best teams.
2384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: November 20, 2022, 05:48:37 PM
I think it's safe to say that Qatar will be the outsider in this World Cup. I will be really surprised if they manage to secure even one point in the next two matches. If they score a goal, that will be their biggest achievement.
2385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: November 20, 2022, 01:34:30 PM
Since Qatar is the host team, they will have an advantage in all aspects. Also, Qatar's players play good football, and since the game is being played at their home ground, they will take advantage of this opportunity. However, Ecuador is a good team and they will want the first match of the World Cup to start with their victory.
in the world cup which lasts 4 years no country wants to lose and they all want to win, so everyone has a chance to win and work hard for every match, the hosts will always excel from the support that comes from their supporters of course it will make the spirit more for Qatar to be able to play well

Actually I don't think the Qatar fans will give them a big advantage. Football is not that popular sport in Qatar and they are the host only because they bribed FIFA. I think that the biggest advantage that Qatar will have is the weather and high temperatures. Especially for the early games. I know that stadiums have air condition but it remains to be seen if they will be able to cool down the temperature with twenty or thirsty thousand fans.
2386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga 2022./2023. on: November 20, 2022, 01:26:33 PM
I think that Cosmi is a very good coach, but he simply did not have the right support from the club management and the right players to achieve better results.
Rijeka fans are very bitter and angry, currently there is a lot of negative news and energy around the club and I think that this season is definitely lost for Rijeka.
Next season, they will not be placed in the European competition, for the first time in a long time, because of this they will be much less attractive for new players and sponsors, and I think that Rijeka is waiting for a very long period of recovery and returning to the old paths of glory.
Dinamo will continue to be untouchable in the Croatian league, while Hajduk, Osijek and the ever-improving Slaven will fight for European competitions.


I agree and that's really sad for a club like Rijeka. I hope they will recover from this but it will take a long time. I don't understand how the club management thinks that this is a good way to do business. This way they will lose many of their fans and with that, a lot of money that comes from sponsors and tickets. I'm not sure what kind of deal Miskovic have but he too probably have someone to answer if the results are bad. I mean, he probably doesn't own the club. Or does he?
Misković is the chairman and owner of the club. And as person that lives in Rijeka but would qualify myself only as casual supporter, I don't have anything bad to say about him. He got Rijeka out of big debts, brought in some good sponsors, made a modern stadium while Dinamo and Hajduk are still playing in ruins... We had bigger aspirations while we still had big money coming from Italy and when it stopped he very realistically talked about club goals. It is our reality to bring in players that need to revitalize their careers and it worked brilliantly for a couple of years. This is the first year when it backfired. You can't always get it right even when you have the budget, let alone when you don't have.

Over the past few seasons, Rijeka has really achieved great results in the Croatian football league and also in European competitions.
They were the only ones who managed to end Dinamo's dominance in the Croatian football league.
However, Dinamo is financially a much more powerful club than Rijeka, and it was unrealistic to expect that Rijeka could take over Dinamo's position as the best Croatian club in the long term.
Everything was clear when at the end of last season they were forced to sell their best player Drmic to Dinamo.
This will be a very difficult season for Rijeka, but I hope that they will survive and recover, for the benefit of Croatian football.

They will probably survive but I'm not sure if Miskovic will survive. I didn't know that he is also the owner of the club. But even so, as the owner he doesn't have unlimited amount of cash to invest into Rijeka. When that money runs out, it will be game over for him. Of course, I hope that won't be the case and that this season is just a big bump down the road for Rijeka. They will probably choose better players for the next season and I hope they don't miss again.
2387  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 20, 2022, 01:21:48 PM
Svima je već dosta bear marketa ali realno ne vidim neke naznake promjena nabolje u bliskoj budućnosti, u 2023 vjerojatno ne, možda pravi oporavak kripto tržišta krene u 2024, vidjet ćemo.
Trenutno je jednostavno previše loših vijesti i ''crnih labudova'' na tržištu, od katastrofe sa FTX do najveće inflacije u zadnjih 20 godina, visokih kamatnih stopa, energetske krize...
Vjerojatno je sada dobar trenutak za krenuti u shopping dok je bitcoin ovako jeftin, a moguće je i da još padne ako se dogodi još neka loša vijest na kripto tržištu.
Dokle god se ne riješi globalna kriza, veliki investitori će povlačiti svoje uloge sa burzi, počevši od rizičnijih investicija poput kripta tako da kratkoročno ne treba očekivati dobre vijesti u svezi kretanja cijena bitcoina i altcoina.

Pa pravi oporavak u 2024. taman odgovara sljedećem BTC halvingu tako da bi stvarno to mogla biti "ta" godina. Vidjet ćemo. Sad je svakako vrijeme za postavljanje odličnih pozicija. Dobro, možda ne baš sad nego tamo za mjesec-dva-tri kad vidimo koliko će projekata FTX povući za sobom. Jer projekti koji prežive bear market ili se pokrenu u bear marketu obično eksplodiraju u bullu.
2388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: November 20, 2022, 10:30:08 AM
In the opening match of the World Cup, I bet on Ecuador to win. In recent months, both teams have played only friendly matches, and Qatar, which won the last 4 friendly matches, achieved better results. However, they did not play against opponents at the level of Ecuador. I just hope that the referees don't follow in the footsteps of Fifa officials and favor the Qatar team.
In the case of any match, one cannot blame the referee if one team loses. Because apart from the referee's decision being something that cannot be contested by the players, now there are many tools on the field to detect any mistakes that occur on the field. If for example Qatar wins the opening of the World Cup today, then it is also very important for the hosts not to be knocked out by their opponents in this season's World Cup.

All the machines who are used to detect referee's error can't fight to the corrupted referee. For example, VAR can say that there was no penalty but no one can force the referee to change his decision. Of course, later he would be punished for that but for the losing team there's no punishment good enough to make up for the lost game.
2389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: November 20, 2022, 08:17:12 AM
france will have to play the entire tournament without its world class striker Karim Benzema. the striker from spanish cl-winner real madrid had to stop a running session at the national team's first training session in qatar on saturday because of "stabbing pain".
now the confirmation: an injury to the left thigh ends K. Benzema's dream of the world cup title...

And that's another player who is paying for the stupidity of the decision to organize the World Cup in the middle of the season. I hope that FIFA will never repeat this mistake again because it's sad to see so much players who won't be able to play because of injuries.
2390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: November 20, 2022, 08:06:13 AM
The World Cup games finally start today... I think there will be a lot of interesting matches and I hope there won't be many boring ones... In the opening match I don't know who can win, the situation is not clear... On the one hand Ecuador got to World Cup from the fourth place, losing only to Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay... On the other hand Qatar has had no problems at all in qualifying... I'm going to guess that Ecuador will win...

What do you mean when you say that Qatar had no problems qualifying for the World Cup? They are the host and they qualified because of that and not because they beat someone in qualifications. Normally I would say that Uruguay will win this match easily but this is the first match of the tournament and surprises are normal. For me a draw would be a surprise and Qatar winning would be a shock.
2391  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Grijači koji rudare bitcoine on: November 20, 2022, 08:02:22 AM
Ma razumijem to, ali realna cijena ovakve "grijalice" bi trebala biti $300-$400 max. Koliko uopće vrijedi jedan Antminer S9 ovih dana? A vjerujem da proizvodi jednaku količinu topline kao i ova grijalica. Uostalom, ako bi netko ovo rastavio, kladim se da bi unutra pronašao neku vrstu 'off the shelf' minera. I što na kraju dobijemo? Samo fancy kućište i custom-made app za mobitel.


Na Amazonu Antminer S9 košta malo preko $700 ali stvar je u tome da je ova grijalica namijenjena korištenju u kući, a Antminer zbog buke baš i ne možeš imati u kući. Nisam nikad čuo koliku buku proizvode ali čitao sam usporedbe s avionskim motorom. Nekako mi je nevjerojatno da nešto tako maleno može proizvesti toliko buke ali tako kažu...
2392  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 20, 2022, 07:59:28 AM
A čuj ako nemaš para nemaš šta ni izgubiti, tužno je to ali zato ja poprlično mirno spavam u bear marketu Smiley

Ali sada mi je već bear polako dojadio, vrijeme je da krenemo u neke nove pobjede. Znam da nećemo još ali tržišta se obično i okrenu u trenutku kada je najcrnije. A puno crnije od ovoga ne ide osim ako Tether ili Binance ne zarone.

Meni je isto dosadilo krito tržište ali ako se sjećate slično je bilo prije Covid crasha kad je BTC bio prilično dosadan i onda je jedno jutro zaronio 50%. Nekako mislim da FTX crash nije jedini black swan event u ovom bear marketu nego da nas čeka još jedan. Vjerojatno zbog pada uzrokovanog FTX crashom cijena neće zaroniti 50% ali mislim da bi mogla pasti još malo ispod 15k.

Inače, ovo je prvi bear market tijekom kojeg je cijena BTC-a otišla ispod najviše cijene tijekom pretprošlog bull runa (oko $19k). Ali isto tako je prošli bull run prvi put zarvšio s double top umjesto blow off top.
2393  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Grijači koji rudare bitcoine on: November 20, 2022, 07:41:15 AM
Priznajem, ideja je zanimljiva, ali isplativost je i dalje upitna. Nema puno specifikacija na web stranici, ali prema dostupnim informacijama uređaj nudi up to 14 TH/s (pretpostavljam SHA-256) uz potrošnju struje od 1,4kWh. Čak ako i zanemarimo potrošnju struje (pretvaramo el. energiju u toplinsku) i dalje nam ostaje zarada od samo 0,000050 BTC dnevno, odnosno ~$0,8 (prema trenutnoj vrijednosti BTC-a).

Kada podijelimo $1150 s $0,8, ispada da su potrebne čak četiri godine (oko 1440 dana) neprekidnog rada da se uređaj isplati (ne uzimajuči u obzir mining dificulty). Iskreno sumnjam da uređaj može izdržati toliko dugo. Čak i ako bismo računali s vrlo vjerojatnim povećanjem cijene BTC-a u budućnosti, opet se više isplati uzeti 1150$ i kupiti BTC direktno. Barem je tako moje mišljenje.


Mislim da ovo nije uređaj kojeg će kupiti netko tko baš želi rudariti BTC nego je više namijenjen ljudima koji planiraju kupiti električnu grijalicu koja troši puno struje, a rudarenje je samo način kako smanjiti potrošnju struje. Osim toga, rudarenje BTC-a je možda i način da naprave razliku između svih ostalih grijalica koje "samo" griju prostor i svoje s kojom se račun za struju može malo smanjiti.
2394  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: November 20, 2022, 07:34:38 AM
Prijavi se opet u Betnomi kampanju, još uvijek ima slobodnih mjesta. Vidim da si slao već jednom prijavu pa si je onda povukao kad si primljen u Marsbet. Možda bi te menadžer i Betnomi kampanje primio ali te nije ni uzeo u razmatranje jer si objavio da si prhvaćen drugdje. I u signature i u avatar kampanji ima nepotpunjenih pozicija.   

Ma neka... Kad je ovakav bear, više volim iznos u dolarima dobiti u BTC-u nego da dobivam fiksni iznos u BTC-u. Osim toga, 0.0001 BTC po postu je maksimalno $40 tjedno što mi je nekako malo u odnosu na $70 koliko ostale kampanje plaćaju za Hero člana.
2395  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: November 20, 2022, 07:19:34 AM
Campaign killer striker again! Grin

Samo tjedan dana nakon što je krenula, moja kampanja je pauzirana jer menadžer nema kontakt s vlasnicima. Eto moje sreće... Nadam se da će nastaviti ali čak i da ne nastavi, vjerujem da su mi izgledi u nekoj drugoj kampanji puno bolji nego prije mjesec dana Smiley
2396  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Akcija kupujemo Bitcoine svaki dan on: November 20, 2022, 07:17:17 AM
/snip

inace, vidim da su se na listi tuzenih nasli svi promoteri FTX-a, medju njima i Tom Brady i Steph Curry, sto neko napisa ako Temasek (drzavna investiciona banka Singapura) za 8 meseci pregleda dokumentacije pre ulaganja u FTX nije primetio da FTX nema knjigovodstvo, kako su to Tom i Steph mogli Smiley

To samo pokazuje da uvijek treba paziti što reklamiraš, pogotovo ako si javna osoba koja ima mogućnost utjecaja na mišljenja i akcije drugih, "običnih" ljudi. Ako nisu mogli znati, a vjerojatno nisu, onda nisu trebali niti reklamirati FTX. Sad su suočeni s tužbama kao što bi bili suočeni i da su reklamirali neku ponzi shemu.
2397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga 2022./2023. on: November 20, 2022, 07:13:58 AM
I think that Cosmi is a very good coach, but he simply did not have the right support from the club management and the right players to achieve better results.
Rijeka fans are very bitter and angry, currently there is a lot of negative news and energy around the club and I think that this season is definitely lost for Rijeka.
Next season, they will not be placed in the European competition, for the first time in a long time, because of this they will be much less attractive for new players and sponsors, and I think that Rijeka is waiting for a very long period of recovery and returning to the old paths of glory.
Dinamo will continue to be untouchable in the Croatian league, while Hajduk, Osijek and the ever-improving Slaven will fight for European competitions.


I agree and that's really sad for a club like Rijeka. I hope they will recover from this but it will take a long time. I don't understand how the club management thinks that this is a good way to do business. This way they will lose many of their fans and with that, a lot of money that comes from sponsors and tickets. I'm not sure what kind of deal Miskovic have but he too probably have someone to answer if the results are bad. I mean, he probably doesn't own the club. Or does he?
2398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽⚽⚽ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk World Cup 2022 - discussion ⚽⚽⚽ on: November 18, 2022, 03:50:11 PM
Good luck to all of us playing Smiley I just hope that the ID I provided is good because I haven't used Sportsbet before.
2399  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 18, 2022, 03:02:24 PM
Znas kako, takve stvari se uglavnom desavaju odjednom i bez najave. Ukoliko se pojavi neki bezbednosni propust i neko ko ce to zloupotrebiti, sigurno taj nece prvo objaviti sve o tome pa tek nakon odredjenog period poceti da eksploatise taj proces. Pa je sve na tome da li si imao srece i ostao "neprimecen".

Ma jasno. Ali htio sam reći da postoji neki propust u generiranju privatnih ključeva ili seed phrasea,  vjerojatno bi do sad već bio otkriven. Jer nije generiranje javnog i privatnog ključa samo stvar kriptovaluta nego kompletne sigurnosti na Internetu.
2400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: November 18, 2022, 12:15:13 PM
Football always brings surprises.
Predictions for Group A
1. Netherlands
2. Senegal
3. Qatar
4. Ecuador


The result of the match has been determined by Qatar vs Ecuador, in my opinion both countries want to buy and sell attacks, even though Ecuador is everyone's favorite, but we have to be wary of the Qatar host game, because they are playing at home so anything can happen in football so , I hope that Qatar can win its first match in this World Cup..

LOL.. Ecuador at 4th place? IMO, they are the strongest team in Group A. During the CONMEBOL qualifiers, they managed to defeat strong opponents such as Colombia and Chile. And how can anyone claim that Senegal will finish at the 2nd position, when Sadio Mane is not playing for them? Mane is such an integral part of the Senegal squad and without him they will struggle to get any points from their group phase games. The fight for the no.1 spot in Group A will be between Ecuador and Netherlands and I would favor the former.

Ecuador probably won't finish at the 4th place, but I wouldn't say that they are better than Netherlands. I don't think that wins over Colombia and Chile proves that they are the best team in this group.
The group stage for this group will probably be that Netherlands will be first, Ecuador second, Qatar third and Senegal fourth. That is if Mane won't play for Senegal. If he recovers then there could be some surprises.
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