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Well, it's not really a simple recipe, but I appreciate your effort. I'll send you .50 BTC.
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I like chinese food but I know almost nothing about it and to me it seems quite complex.
I mean, could you give us an example of a very simple chinese recipe that I could cook at home? With very basic ingredients (but don't tell me I should kill my pet, please).
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I also think people are confused over "regulations" and 'standards".
Standards usually evolve organically from the industry or community actually involved in the process while regulations are perverse control of human behaviour usually done by agents with no involvement in the thing they regulate. Because of this fact unintended consequences occur.
Its akin to letting a baker set the rules for the butcher or the candlestick maker .
Very true. |
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What about not providing any implementation for MS Windows© or Macintosh© ?
That would save some space on the page, so that we could make some room for a FreeBSD, OpenBSD or other Free Open Source operating systems.
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SO is it possible to install bitcoind on debian lenny?
It is, provided you add an unstable entry in your apt repository. For more info, man sources.list PS. I have no idea if it would work with Lenny, though. Normally it should since apt-get is supposed to automatically install all required dependencies. |
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Awesome news! Do we know who contributed the package? Is it someone that spends time on this forum?
Maintainer is Jonas Smedegaard. You can have his contact information with apt-cache: apt-cache show bitcoind (the name of the package seems to have been changed recently) |
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I agree, it's very difficult to distribute fair in a decentralized manner. Maybe even impossible (?). Because even that crazy toe system doesn't actual solve it, does it? How do you make sure that a person who finds a block actually holds such an auction? They could just make up a new private key - claim it came from one of those toe DNA machines you are describing - and transfer the money there. Essential you would need to be able to verify for every coin that a unique toe cutting event happened for it - even with that video you were mentioning it would probably not be feasible to make sure that it is actually a new video instead of just a slightly modified copy of one of the millions of videos already recorded.
To distribute fair you need to be able to establish unique identities. I would think there are just two ways of doing that: Have a central registry (think government issued id cards) or have a web-of-trust. So maybe the Ripple system is a better fit for those people who want their "fair share".
But really, I find this whole complain that the distribution of Bitcoins is not fair pretty ridiculous. It's simply first-come-first-serve, a principle which is in effect in many places without people complaining. Do these critics also come to a concert late, and then complain how all the best spots are already taking and the whole concert is just sooo unfair?
I very much agree with all this. My toecoin concept was just an thought experiment, and I soon realised that it would not actually work, for several reasons. I thought it worthed presenting it on this forum, though. |
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I guess everybody has their own idea of what is "fair", or even that there is a right to their definition of fair. If I was supreme leader, my definition of "fair" would include giving Satoshi, the other developers, and people who furthered the growth of bitcoin a larger share of the btc. Some others might think Satoshi should get it all, and yet somebody else might think the government should have control and distribute at will. The question isn't "is it fair". The question is, "is this the way of the future, and will I be sitting on the platform or will I be on this train when it leaves the station - whether I'm in First Class or baggage." Sometimes it's more fun to challenge people's assumptions and definitions, that to simply assume what they are saying is valid and trying to answer it.  To me bitcoin is absolutely fair, because the rules are the same for everyone, and you are not forced to take part. For some people however, bitcoin is not fair because: * people who have the greatest processing power gets to generate more bitcoins than others; * people who get to know about bitcoin's existence first get to generate more bitcoins (since the difficulty was lower when they started); It's annowing as hell to have to respond to those critics. We should write something good about it and put it in the FAQ. |
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I don't use social network tools anyway. I don't get the point of these stuffs, so I'll probably won't use Diaspora.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
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won't work -- not enough significant digits.
I'm assuming this was pun intended Yeah, I had missed it. |
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won't work -- not enough significant digits.
The real flesh toes are necessary only for initial distribution of the currency. Once created, the toecoins can be exchanged electronically as any cryptocurrency. |
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WARNING: this topic is just a crazy idea, I don't even know if it makes any sense. Please be indulgent.
Today I was again responding to the classic critic about bitcoin, concerning the initial distribution, which was accused not to be "fair".
As I have already explained it, I see no other way than using CPU power to distribute an electronic decentralised anonymous currency. I have already stated that this is probably some kind of a theorem that could be proved:
"The initial distribution of an electronic currency that is both decentralised and anonymous has to be related to the distribution of CPU power in the network."
However, I came up with quite a crazy idea about an alternative way to distribute a currency in a fair way.
I'd call it the toecoin. It's just a crypto currency like bitcoin, but with a tiny, and yet quite huge difference.
Every human being has the right to receive 2 toecoins for free, just because he is a human being. That's the rule. The currency is decentralised and anonymous, and thus, according to my theorem, it can not be purely electronic.
Here is how it works. I am a human being and I have no toecoin. This is not normal, and I want to claim my right to own two toecoins. I wait for the next block to be found. For the sake of the discussion I'll imagine that the average time for discovering block is one day, and not six minutes.
Ok, there is a guy who finds a block. Now here is the first difference with bitcoin: the guy doesn't receive a reward yet. He publishes the block, with a spectial generation transaction, but this transaction doesn't worth anything yet.
I hurry and I go this guy's place, or some public place meeting address he published on the web. I have some time to do so. About 24 hours.
Here I am at the place, and I am not the only one. Basically a whole bunch of toecoinless people who wants to claim their toecoins just as I do. Now, the guy, because he has found the proof of work, he is granted the right to give 2 toecoins to anyone he wants, under one condition that I will describe later. He could give them to himself, if he fullfills the condition.
Negociation start. Everybody will promess to give a fraction of their new toecoins to the guy. There is some kind of an auction which starts. Let's say I'm the winner. I promess to pay 0.2 toecoins. Most people didn't agree to pay more than 0.15. They'll have to wait an other day, an other block.
To have the right to receive the 2 toecoins (1.8 after I give 0.2 to the block discover), I have to do the following:
1. I cut each of my little toes and I film the scene. This will prevent me from getting more than two toecoins later in my life;
2. I have to put the toes in a machine that will analyse the toe fingerprint and the DNA and turn the corresponding data into a unique ECDSA private key. This will ensure that the created toecoins do indeed belong to the person who cut his toes, because it should be possible for me to have computed the ECDSA key in the past (I can analyse my DNA and print my fingerprints). The whole process has to be public and recorded so that anyone can verify there has been no fraud.
This sounds silly, but my aim is to show how difficult it would be to distribute something in a "fair" way in a decentralised, anonymous manner. At some point, I really think you would have to use people's flesh, meaning that the money can not be purely electronic.
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There has been a patch in the new kernel (2.6.38) that allows a better CPU ordonnancing between Xorg and tty apps.
I can confirm that now I can watch a video without any problem even if I have "setgenerate true".
Obviously, however, the rate hash is lower than before. But it's just CPU mining anyway...
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mmm you seem to be missing the whole point - it /is/ supposed to be automatically parsed.
Why? It's one time thing, isn'it? Couldn't a human make the verification? |
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[quote author=Avlin link=topic=4032.msg66452#msg66452 date=1300312367]
je n'échange qu'au taux actuel de l'euro et de plus c'est plus difficile d'en générer depuis une semaine.
[/quote]
Si tu changes d'avis tu peux m'envoyer tes coordonnées bancaires par email, en les signant et en les chiffrant. Ma clef publique est [url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xAB5EF7EF50B80E68]ici |
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is there any benefit to going uri-style?
Not much, it's just shorter. Doesn't really matter anyway. I think one could just put nothing in front of the base-64, since this data is not supposed to be automatically parsed anyway. |
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d'après le taux de change actuel de 0.66 ca fais 33 euros
Je t'en propose 25. |
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Je pense qu'il est bien plus simple de faire tourner sur chaque machine le client originel, et de faire tourner en même temps un petit script qui rappatrie tous les éventuels bitcoins générés. Un truc du genre: #!/bin/bash
# lance bitcoind
bitcoind
# lance la génération
bitcoind setgenerate true
# choisi une addresse pour regrouper tous les bitcoins
DESTINATION_ADDRESS=1PGoL6Q9vwuq7BurGphRN4ecVxMjXZbsa6
# boucle exécutée toutes les six minutes
while sleep $((6*60))
do
balance="$(bitcoind getbalance)"
if (( balance > 0 ))
then bitcoind sendtoaddress $DESTINATION_ADDRESS $balance
fi
done &
L'adresse donnée ici est juste un exemple mais tu peux l'utiliser pour me faire une donation si tu trouves que ce script t'es utile  |
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yep encore une fournée de 50 bitcoins dispo, si quelqu'un veut ou si vous avez des sites d'échanges qui sont intéressant... merci Faut vraiment que je me motive pour finir de rendre mon site bidirectionnel. C'est en cours mais j'ai du mal à me motiver. Pour tes 50 bitcoins combien tu demandes ? |
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