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2381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 10:52:51 AM
a little woody

Time for a prostate check
2382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 10:50:48 AM


In 1967, Italian engineer Giorgio Rosa

Republic of Rose Island

The platform declared independence on 24 June 1968


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Rose_Island

Now, after many years, they continue with the same thought.

Governments do not like this kind of micronation initiatives.

They feel intimidated by any initiative that escapes their laws.

As an italian, I've heard about this several times.
Italian Wikipedia entry gives more informations, it might be worth a read via Google Transalate.

The key passage is the following:

The claims of sovereignty, independence and international rights acquired by the owners of the platform were unfounded, as Italian citizens, even outside Italy, must abide by state laws (this in a nutshell can be deduced from the essay on the Journal of International Law of 1968 ).

Wondering if this principle applies to every citizenship or only to italians.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction
2383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 10:43:05 AM
Part way through reading this link and holy shit.  If this is a work of fiction it is well researched. 

I thought it read like a tweenie's discarded slash fiction myself.

It sounded pretty good to me after 2 bottles if somewhat self aggrandizing

Now my fingers smell like rabbit poo
2384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 10:25:58 AM

I believe the team of three theory is with Phillip James Wilson as the third member. He has offered a detailed and very long accounting of his involvement with the Satoshi group here http://vu.hn/bitcoin%20origins.html Ive read it in its entirety and find it much more plausible than any of the rantings of CSW. By Craigs admission to a reporter years ago he doesnt have a million coins bc he already spent his early coins years ago. No way a guy with that kind of ego would deny having a million coins if he really did have them. The simplest explanation for the million coins never moving is not bc Satoshi is the most humble and cheapest man to ever live with no care for money, its that Kleinman is dead, his keys are lost or encrypted, and dead men dont spend money.

Part way through reading this link and holy shit.  If this is a work of fiction it is well researched. 
We had all this even in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg31171819#msg31171819
not that well researched https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9cyi3o/scronty_phil_wilson_is_not_satoshi/
vidya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPCVeo1u20 Ep. 94 - A Satoshi Nakamoto Story | Phil "Scronty" Wilson
some useful links in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2680645.msg45508645#msg45508645


Thanks.  Too much Deutz.  Rabbit hole averted. 
2385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 09:29:04 AM
-McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash

My guess is that Mr. Mcafee's reveal hinted at this week will be Satoshi as himself and then he'll tell us that you're Satoshi too and then we'll feel all warm inside and that.

Why he would have a clue who he is is beyond me. By 2009 he was well into his jungle freak phase and before that it was yoga and microlights for many years. And if he did have the vaguest hint why did he not pile in in 2009/10/11/12/13 and more? By the time he arrived Satoshi was long gone and no one else has ever claimed to know. I can't see anyone cheerfully telling him over a line of drain cleaner a few years down the road.


Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some  judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him)

I don't know or care what the endgame is but there's no evidence of this trust either.

CSW been claiming that the keys are in that Tulip Trading Trust not to be distributed before 1/1/2020. It's just too much of a coincidence that he's starting his lawsuit on establishing himself as Satoshi now.

yeah....the 3 theory with Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney as the other 2 in the group (who have passed) ...my worst nightmare is he is right and they did put all the 'test coins' into
a tulip trust, that the last man standing can access. Jan 1st, 2020...being the weak link of the trio and the last man standing..that is the nightmare scenario to me (1 out of 50 chance of true IMHO) ...so if Craig Wright does get access to all that BTC he could play the same game as Bitcoin Cash and  crash BTC into BSV or some other silliness if he drove the price down enough on selling massively..it would make the 'tulip mania' of the middle ages look tame by comparison.

Anyway, like all 'nightmares' it is extremely unlikely, but still, if BTC was gonna go 'tulips' at this point in time, IMHO, it would take some classic unlikely event like this to do so...

Craig Wright as a 'black swan event' ...sh*t just scared myself Smiley (Again, 1-50 chance..but damn that would suck) Sad



I believe the team of three theory is with Phillip James Wilson as the third member. He has offered a detailed and very long accounting of his involvement with the Satoshi group here http://vu.hn/bitcoin%20origins.html Ive read it in its entirety and find it much more plausible than any of the rantings of CSW. By Craigs admission to a reporter years ago he doesnt have a million coins bc he already spent his early coins years ago. No way a guy with that kind of ego would deny having a million coins if he really did have them. The simplest explanation for the million coins never moving is not bc Satoshi is the most humble and cheapest man to ever live with no care for money, its that Kleinman is dead, his keys are lost or encrypted, and dead men dont spend money.

Part way through reading this link and holy shit.  If this is a work of fiction it is well researched. 
2386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 03:03:13 AM
Are you lot really suggesting that Satoshi would give his keys to a trustee? 

Cmon guys you are better than that. 
2387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2019, 10:45:05 PM
Interesting read here I thought for those wanting to go deeper down rabbit holes. Its a from a few years ago but still well written and relevant today imho.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/what-i-learned-from-losing-200-million?



Great article but deeply suspicious.  If you are a whale and know you are going to tank the market, you open your short position before tanking the market.

You don’t get a flash of inspiration to short half way through the process.
2388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2019, 08:20:29 PM
Mic, you got a message.

I was running Smiley

Keeping up the health on daily bases Wink

Btw THX for the awesome message

LOL, now everybody is wondering what that message was.

I will post that in a few days Wink

Posting during the weekend, you should have it next week.

Bad lag?
2389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2019, 09:23:52 AM
yet
2390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2019, 08:40:34 AM
God, grant me the serenity to long bull markets,
Courage to short bear markets,
And wisdom to know the difference.
2391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2019, 06:23:04 AM
100 million is a bit annoying to keep track of.  It doesn’t fit nicely into thousand / million / billion schema.  

I would have much preferred a million sats or a billion sats.

If someone asked me how much 4,300 sats is worth in USD, I couldn’t give a quick answer off the top of my head.
2392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2019, 04:04:45 AM
Bit of a local pamp - $5290
2393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2019, 09:06:44 PM


Obviously UBS wants a piece of the action as well
2394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2019, 09:04:26 PM
Meanwhile if you are a street sweeper in China you can get this nifty new watch

https://www.whatsonweibo.com/online-controversy-over-mandatory-gps-tracking-smartwatches-for-chinese-street-cleaners/
2395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2019, 07:16:03 PM
I hope we can eventually get rid of this whole countries and borders nonsense. The internet is a good start and hopefully future space-based internet providers will eventually put an end to surface based internet filtering. And of course a global and distributed currency.

Well that’s what the EU is trying to do - get rid of borders. Of course the English want to put up more borders but never mind musn’t grumble
2396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2019, 07:08:21 PM
Wasn't Elwar advertising the seastead thing quite aggressively? I thought he had all figured out with the government officials.. and it looked like Thailand was giving him a thumbs up.

Wow this is some bad shit and I feel bad for both of them.

I just did some background reading on the latest Thai elections that happened in March 2019.  Results come out in May after new king appointed.  

TLDR:  there are 18+ political parties jockeying for position and the scene is best described as chaotic. There is *no one* in the government capable of giving a thumbs up, even if they were so inclined to do so.  

http://theconversation.com/thailand-the-baffling-mathematics-that-helps-to-keep-the-junta-in-power-115573


I remain of the view that the only thing to do is to get out.   That means crossing a land border or getting out by sea or via an embassy. The idea of trying to cross the land border into Myanmar, Laos or Cambodia gives me the willies.  And he is a long way from those borders.  But I imagine the Malaysian land border is pretty damn tight (never been there).

So getting out by sea or through the US embassy sounds like the only way.   But he is in Phuket(?) and the embassies are in Bangkok which is 550 miles away.  

I would be in electronic contact with the US embassy and see whether they would send a car with diplomatic plates to pick me up.  But a US embassy car driving to Phuket would stand out like dogs balls.  So he might need to make the land journey to Bangkok.  And if he has pissed off the USA, that’s bad. Also there is a warrant for his arrest in Thailand do not sure the US government wants to help him.  Him and Nadia need to get back stateside where the whole issue can then get lost in bureaucracy.

Getting out by sea still feels like the most realistic option.  

Possible lessons from this: don’t get into trouble.  And if you do get into trouble, run early and run fast before the government has time to get organized.


2397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2019, 10:44:39 AM
So we have established that Calvin Ayre is dumb like stick?
2398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2019, 09:45:21 AM
Bitcoin Bears Are “F**ked” If Trend Pans Out, Claims Crypto Analyst

According To Pattern, Bitcoin Might Have Bottomed


Who are these analysts and what rock have they been living under for the past four months?
2399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2019, 05:05:35 AM
Well this is awkward

https://laughingsquid.com/ten-spotmini-robots-pull-truck-across-parking-lot/
2400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2019, 03:56:37 AM
Take their boat across the water to Malaysia and run down the coast of Indonesia to Australia.
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