I agree with you 100%

Okay,

Thank you for informing the Newbie!!!

Regards,

David

10/4

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still dead since approximately 7:50.  It is 8:22 now.

Yep, I just got a notification of a block found from GHash, which meant that Eligius had to be down.  So, I checked my hash rate on GHash and I see all 16 of my S3's are pointed at GHash.

According to the shifts on GHash, my miners have been there approximately 18 minutes.  So, we've been down at least 18 minutes.

Hi everyone,

I've been mining on Eligius now for approximately one week.  I started mining Bitcoin September 22, 2014.  So, I'm new to Bitcoin and mining. 

I'm enjoying this pool and I like it a lot!  I have sixteen (16) Bitmain Antminer S3's (7.2 Th/s).  I just purchased my first S4 [Another 2 Th/s; for a total of 9.2 Th/s] in the wee hours early this morning.  The goal is to have a minimum of 25 Bitmain Antminer S4's (50 Th/s) here at the house.  I plan to order my 2nd S4 in approximately 3 more weeks.  I'm like a little boy on christmas waiting for this first S4 to get here from bitmaintech.com.



I really want to contribute to Pool Management, Stats Development and Pool Hosting.  I like what you have going on here.

I'm using a Mac.  I have 4 Mac's in my house and no PC.  I do have Parallel's with Window's 7 installed.  However, I would rather not use Window's if I do not have to.

I do have a Coinbase account/wallet.  I would imagine Coinbase has a means of setting up donations the way Eligius support page is suggesting when using Bitcoin-qt.

This is what I have thus far in my "message" to copy and paste into whatever I would use on Coinbase to implement the message:

My Eligius - 2014-11-11 15:30:30 UTC - Nickname=Proud%20Clown Minimum_Payout_BTC=.50000001 Donate_Pool=.5 Donate_Stats=.5 Donate_Hosting=.5

I just need someone to point out to me where and/or what on Coinbase I need to use to get this message going with a proper signature to implement the message?  Any help someone could provide would be appreciated.  Like I said, I'm NEW to bitcoin and mining bitcoin.  Please forgive my ignorance...

Thank you,

David

This means I'm going to be ripping out a lot of the 20 AMP 12/2 wiring I've already done to this closet.

Oh well...  Gotta do it.

WOW

This means I can have 18 S3's instead of only 16 I have now [cause I can run 18 S3's on one 240V/30 AMP circuit]; and 21 S4's on 4 240V/30 AMP circuits with PSU's or the special extension cords I showed you.  This would leave me 50 AMPs for everything else in the house.

That would be 50 Th/s

sweeeeeeeeeeet

Sorry, I'm drooling at the mouth over here right now.

Tell me something:

The power company will see this "wattage" and charge me based on that wattage instead of amperage?

Yes, I think that is right.  Cause it is based on kW hours not amperage.  Excuse me, I'm just thinking out loud.

Here's where I was getting confused:

When Amazon's product description told me it was converting 240 volt circuit into 2 or 6 120 volt circuits, I was doing my math for wattage based off 120 volts instead of 240 volts for a 30 AMP circuit.

Another good thing is I will be able to run more S4's than I previously determined.

I would like to use the L14-30 because I already purchased them.  I have one here at the house that I purchased from Lowes.  The other 3 are on the way from Amazon.

Okay,

Thank you very much!

Unfortunately, I already purchased the L14-30P outlets

So, the L14-30 that is 120/240 is not good enough?

It has to be just 240?

Not 120/240?

by the way, this is the 240 Volt L14-30 to 6 120V circuits I had up earlier but deleted:

When you are no longer on your phone and have an opportunity to answer at your computer, please answer the following questions:

Are you from the U.S.?

If so, what outlet do I need and what power strip do I need to power four S4's on on 240V/30AMP circuit?

Prelude,

Are you from the United States?

I need to know what outlet I need and what special extension cord I need in the U.S. to plug in four S4's into a 240 Volt outlet?

The problem was finding 30 AMP receptacle for a regular IEC-320-C13 3 prong cord to plug into, which is normally used for 15 AMP or 20 AMP circuit.  I could not find one.  I don't think they even make one.  So, I decided to get an L14-30P 4 prong circular receptacle that will push 30 AMPS so that two S4's can be put on one circuit.

One S4 is 1400 watts. Two S4's would be 2800 watts.  240 volts or 120 volts is not what is important.  The amperage is what is important in this application.  Each AMP can push 120 watts of power.  1400 watts divided by 120 watts per amp = 11.6666667 AMPS for one S4.  2800 watts divided by 120 watts per amp = 23.3333333 AMPS for two S4's.

With a 30 AMP circuit, yes, this would leave 6.6666666 AMPS remaining for the circuit if I was powering two S4's.  However, I do not want to push the circuit and the wiring to its limits.  I want to keep the heat down and have less chance of tripping the breaker.  I have approximately 800 watts per setup of two S3's with one 860 watt PSU.  Just because it can push 860 does not mean I'm using 860.  Theoretically, I could have 3 sets of S3's (6 of them) with three (3) 800 watt PSU's on a 20 AMP circuit.  800 watts x 3 = 2400 watts.  A 20 AMP circuit x 120 watts per AMP is 2400 watts.  That would be pushing that 20 AMP circuit to its max which would heat up the wiring more.

The way I feel we need to look at it is this way:

Push your circuits no more than 75 to 80 percent [if you can help it] to keep from heating up your inside wiring, especially, in a residence.  I have 240 Volts coming into the house to the main breaker.  The main breaker panel is 200 AMPS.  However, we split up our amperage in our residence/business with breakers.  We don't have all 200 AMPS on one circuit in our house.  We split it up according to what is required for the equipment/appliances.  

I have a choice, run multiple 14/2 wiring with 15 AMP breakers having only one 15 AMP circuit for each S4.  Doing so would require me to spend more money on wire and more time with labor to run the wiring and wire up each receptacle.  Why?  If I want eight S4's, that would mean eight runs of 14/2 wiring going into eight 15 AMP receptacles.  Lot more money and labor.

A 20 AMP circuit with 12/2 wiring capable of 2400 watts leaves me 1000 watts of un-used power.  That did not seem like the right thing to do.  It was basically the same as a 15 AMP circuit with the same problem of running more wiring and hooking up more receptacles.  20 AMPS was not able to power two S4's.

A 30 AMP circuit with the potential of running 3600 watts (30 AMPS x 120 watts per amp).  Two S4's [2800 watts] from 3600 would leave 800 watts left over instead of 1000 watts like it would with a 20 AMP circuit.  I'm using 77% of my amperage in a 30 AMP circuit with two S4's on that 30 AMP circuit.  Also, I'm spending less money on wiring and wiring up fewer receptacles at the wall [less labor].

The voltage did not matter in this case.  The S4 is made for 120 volt or 240 volt circuit AT 30 AMPS.  So, what mattered most was the amperage.  What also mattered was how much money I spend on wiring and receptacles and how much labor I expend to install the wiring and receptacles.

It made more sense to me to have four (4) runs of 10 AWG wiring going to four (4) 30 AMP receptacles.  Then, have four (4) cords to split from a 30 AMP circular plug in to two 15/20 AMP 3 prong female plug in's going in each 30 AMP receptacle.  That would give me a total of eight 15/20 AMP 3 prong female plug in's to plug in eight  S4's.  

The splitter cord I'm purchasing will also break down the voltage from 240 to 120.  How?  It will use the Red/White for one 15 AMP/120 Volt circuit and the Black/White for the other 15 AMP/120 Volt Circuit.

As for waste of amperage or wattage: there is very little waste here.  We have to consider what we are willing to spend on wiring and what is available at the other end of the wiring to plug our equipment into.  We also need to consider the amount of labor involved when installing the wiring and plug (receptacle) we plug into.  Unfortunately, there is no 30 AMP IEC-C13 3 prong outlet.  The max it goes to is 20 AMP; that I could find in the U.S.A.  If we go anything over 20 AMP in the U.S.A. we have to use a specialized outlet other than C13 3 prong outlet.

30 AMPS was the OBVIOUS choice for two (2) S4's to run on.  Since it is the obvious amperage for two (2) S4's to run on, I needed to look at what 30 AMP outlets were available for me to use.  These are what is available in the U.S.A. :  http://www.lowes.com/Electrical/Electrical-Outlets-Adapters/Electrical-Outlets/_/N-1z0yt2j/pl?Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1#!&N%5B%5D=1z0v8l3&N%5B%5D=1z0yt2j

Now, if you see what is available, you understand the dilemma I was in.  I needed to get something to break down to a regular 3 prong C13 plug.  That's when I found the following:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IUHA28/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1  That was the ticket.

So, I will use 10/3 wiring to a 30 AMP receptacle to split with a special cord to power two S4's.  That was the cheapest, easiest and safest way to do it in my opinion.  However, I'm open to other opinions.

If you say, "Amperage or wattage is being wasted," actually it's very little compared to 20 AMP circuit.  Yes, I could have had multiple 15 AMP circuits.  However, they would have powered only one S4 and I would have spent more time with labor as well as more money on multiple runs of wiring to those receptacles.

David

Approximately 6200 watts if you count the watts also used from the 14 inch exhaust fan, modem, switch and wireless router.  5400 watts with just the 16 rigs and PSU's by themselves.  

The Air Conditioner is not on.  If it was on, it would add another 800 watts, for a total of 7000 watts.  The AC is off during the winter of course.  It may be that I keep it off during the summer as well.  The reason I say this is because I'm new at mining.  

I bought 16 S3's inside of two weeks and did this closet the next week after that.  I may find that I don't need the AC on during the summer because the air from the AC in the house sucked in through the closet door vent [16" x 25"] may be sufficient.  

I just ordered my first S4 a couple of hours ago.  So, it's on the way.

Hi cris,

Like the set up, buddy!

The wire shelfs definitely help the air circulation.  Thanks for sharing.  I'm not sure how much longer it will remain on the forum.  You can also post at "Minor Porn" at the following link:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766998.40

And this link as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758505.40

Just got my "Bitmain Order Paid Confirmation" from bitmaintech.com.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeet

Thanks again for the heads up about no more than a couple of hours so I was not pulling my hair out wondering what was taking so long.

Now, I feel like a little boy counting down the days to Christmas morning.  LOL   

David

Thank you!

I will be running four (4) 30 AMP circuits this week to prepare for S4's.  These circuits require 10/3 wiring and 30 AMP receptacle.  I will also use a special cord to plug in two (2) S4's into one 30 AMP circuit.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NVRT2I/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_9?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER



This is the 30 AMP receptacle I'm using: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002NATX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1



I'm deleting the the pictures of my farm from a previous post.  They can be viewed again at:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766998.40