One is used as intended an the other is not.

A poor comparison when all of crypto is a bubble inflated with idiot noobs playing online pyramid scheme for profits.

Go ahead and compare.
Make a list of what merchants accepted Visa for payment for good or services then compare to Shitco.
I can safely say Visa would dominate that metric 99.99%.

Tell me are you all THAT stupid or are you aware you are nothing but ponzi / pyramid participants ?

No noob.. not quite.

Satoshi did not premine and keep a fuck ton of the coins then dump them.
Nor did Satoshi buy up vast amounts like Butters did as users reported here on page 1.
Satoshi did not manipulate and blatantly pump the coin.
Satoshi did not launch an "ICO".
Satoshi put out a "currency" ..Butters did not.

ETH is a scam.. no matter how many idiot noobs flood in buying it for profits.

All i see and hear is greedy corrupt immoral little noobs chanting.. no, no, no in the face of undeniable evidence.
Uhmm noobs.. yeah, yeah, yeah  

Start doing your homework noobs.

Crypto = Kickstarter (minus the regulations and laws)

..ok got it

WOW.

You didn't get the point.
Microsoft is a real company that has spent decades providing usable and working products sent to market.
Bitcoin has accomplished fuck all and is broken and drowning.
MS is worth $500 and Bitcoin is worth $1,00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.00

Wrap your stupid fucking noob heads around this concept.
Bitcoin is not about profits.
It's about a currency.

..and i quote again


And ?
What is your point ?

If you say stupid shit like that you are raising your hand saying.. YES, indeed it is in fact a bubble.
I feel sorry for you all.
You are actually too stupid to understand the consequences of your poor behavior.
No your profiteering is not helping Bitcoin.
And hoping more people come into the pyramid scheme to bump the price up more is not going to help BTC either.
Which is what you just said noob.

It's not 1 guy with this broken English investard mentality.
It's all of crypto.
Hence why i got the fuck out fast & hard.
I morally will not contribute to the pyramid scheme antics nor will i mingle and associate with profiteers.
I also would not hold the future of my investment with noobs acting like greedy morons.

I pray to god Satoshi sees this perverse abomination that crypto has become and dumps your Bitcoin into oblivion to teach you all a valuable lesson.

There is no such thing as a successful ICO.
Unless you mean the scheme drew in plenty of people with cash in hand.
Which is a silly bullshit way to measure "success".
Unless of course you ignore what the thing is and view it as a money making scheme.. like a ponzi / pyramid variant.

Reminds me of the BlockNET kids who said they needed a million dollars in Bitcoin "To ensure it's a success"

I just want to see people care about the thing they are investing it gets fixed and succeeds in a healthy and productive way.

There shouldn't be a bubble nor is one something to support.

We need people that actually care and they clearly don't when they make BTC worth 8k while they know damn well it's broken.

I want to see BTC at 10 grand as the infamous Vl2Vlad said long ago because the ETF accepted it for example.
In other words a sign that it is experiencing growth based on real usage as intended.. as a currency.

Investing in a "stock" because the stock is worth lots is.. stupid.
Just what are all these guys investing in ?

..guys it's been 8 years.

You know there was a story in my local news about the price of bread at stores (it's high)
Also a few about the minimum wage needing to be increased.

Point is inflation.. which came from the 2008 world wide recession.
A recession that had grave consequences for many.. it collapsed the economy of smaller countries.
It made tons of people homeless and poor. and all of us ever since has been hammered with inflation.

Why ?
A lack of Regulations + Greed.

They chanted NO LAWS !
Greenspan said they would not let the system collapse (again)
He was fucking wrong.
They did.
They did because it was PROFITABLE.

One guy i seen on CNN said it was easy his firm made over a billion dollars over night.. and much more.

You bet your damn ass there is a bubble.
And i know people who got burned on the one we had in crypto in 2013 too.
But this place is full of happy greedy willing participants they will not be bothered by the turd in the punch bowl chanting DOOM.

I am not amused when i have to pay pretty much double for everything in society when financial pundits warned ever since '08 the fix Greenspan and then Bernanke put in place was nothing but a band-aid.. a larger crash is possibly coming and no a broken and fucked up inflated Bitcoin will NOT be taking over if the dollar collapses.
It can't.. it's broken.

GREED RULES and you all love it and chant NO REGULATIONS like pigs.
Problem is the consequences flow around the globe for all to deal with.
Yes a bubble is a bad thing guys.. not something to celebrate.
It's warning.

You all are mostly noobs with no experience or grasp of the context of traditional economies or crypto.
You are blind and dumb and lambs led to the slaughter ..that carrot on the stick will lead you right off the fucking cliff.
Seriously how the bloody hell are the worlds biggest and most popular companies worth a tiny fraction of a scam coin called Ethereum let alone fucking Bitcoin at 8 grand ?
Do you all fathom how utterly retarded that is ?
"Investment" ? I'd sooner invest in Alphabet inc (Google) or Microsoft etc than this inflated idiotic bullshit.

For fuck sake's Microsoft's stock price is worth $83
And Bitcoin is worth $8,000.00 ?
Are you idiots fucking high or what ?
Bitcoin is broken and unregulated.
Like in '08 there will be no bail outs when you get burned investards.

..how quickly people forget

EDIT:
By the way, Hitler got elected because the US's economy crashed.
He tried unsuccessfully for close to a decade to get elected before that and failed.
When times were good no one wanted his brand of Trump'esque soap box anger.
As soon as the depression the US bankers created crossed the sea it was game on !
You reap what you sow.

A million noobs line up to say Bitcoin is a great investment because the current price is high.

Seriously ?

WOW I am stunned to fuck & back !  

EDIT:
Who the hell is creating this massive swarm of 2 post accounts with broken English posting drivel anyway ?

Bad topic title.
Bad summation.
Bad logic.
Stupid topic.

For one thing just because some other system is bad does not magically make Bitcoin good.

Second of all as an investor you are smart to invest in something good.
Which not be a failed broken currency called Bitcoin.

Anyone who advises others that Bitcoin is a good investment should be cuffed upside the head for being a fucking idiot.
Want to know what a "good" investment is ? Talk to a professional.
Not the morons here on a scam site with over a million accounts (mostly puppets by scammers)
And profiteers driven to pad their bags and lure others into schemes.

In other words trade advice here is literally the worst place on earth to get advice.
Yeah surprise surprise.. Bitcoin is a good investment on a Bitcoin site called Bitcointalk.org  

..gimme a fuckin' break  

A good investment does not carry a monumental risk with speculation that it's just a ponzi / bubble of sorts.
Bitcoins value does not hinge on it's intended usage.
It hinges on an economy of pump & dump shitcoin schemes and other various money making online schemes.
It is NOT highly valued because of it being used as a currency.
The "investors" don't care if it's used as a currency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_housing_bubble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_foreclosure_crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%9308

Crypto coins are identical to worthless mortage derivative bundles.

Put wallet.dat on a USB drive and then bury it in your back yard or put it in a safe deposit box or something.

Don't be a stupid CRYPTSY 

The *some retort.. my favorite  
Yup some scams are legit (because you can profit from them)

And to the other guy i say ideology and morality serve a purpose.
The idea is to not reward fraudsters.

You people are insufferable  

I want it to work as intended but getting the profiteers to care is the problem.
What motivation do people have to fix Bitcoin when it keeps shooting up a few more grand ?

Bitcoin fanatics are insufferable..
You could point out the face of Bitcoin to the public is News about Ransomware asking for Bitcoin..
And they will try and claim it's good news somehow.

As long as they can keep counting profits off it ..the fact it's broken is of no concern to pretty much everyone.
Sad really.

Look who's piling in.. people that care ?
The *ONLY* thing they care about is how much money can they make off the crypto thingy.
I think crypto pretty much died a long loooooong time ago.
There was a community take over by profiteers who threw morality and ideology out the window.
Crypto is of no interest to the majority.. they care about profits.
In other words this won't end well.

Wrong NOOB.. it is a bad thing because it's CENTRALIZED.

and... and.. and .

PS:
Watch South Park noobs..

Nice fairy tale.. know anymore interesting stories ?
Making 10,000 different currencies does not equate to usage in the slightest.
It simply means more assholes showed up to profit off all the pyramid scheme "tokens" being pumped and DUMPED.

I keep telling you 3 post NOOB accounts here you are stupid and it doesn't seem to sink in.
And i am not saying that to be mean or anything you just post dog shit drivel incessantly.

PS:
Every single person in the Altcoin scene is a NOOB.
All of them lowered the scammy bar.
Anyone not a noob talking i don't recognize or recall seeing them post in the ALT section before.
..probably a lot of *bought accounts.

The Big Bang Theory - S11E09 - The Bitcoin Entanglement
https://the-big-bang-theory.com/episodeguide/episode/1109/The-Bitcoin-Entanglement/


Which airs on November 30th will feature a story segue about the infamous "Bitcoin"
..and it's "investment" of course (since it has no other real viable use)

I've also seen other shows mention it and it's not flattering.
Such as The Simpsons and Family Guy.
It's always just some sketchy money making scheme.

Personally i don't see the logic in "investing" in a failed currency  

The real question is.. is it too late to fix Bitcoins laughing stock reputation by making it work as intended ?
When other options like Interac eTransfer were faster and Cheaper and.. safer  ..5 years ago.
I'd say we got a problem, never mind the ugly vulgar abomination that is the "ICO" shit storm.

What i envisioned is the writers of that show coming here and looking at all this moronic bullshit for TV show writing research..

Put on a tie and a nice set of slacks investards ..you are being watched.
They probably noticed that i am the only one in crypto not a greedy mouthing breathing startup millennial fucking shitbird chucklefuck retard profiteer gimp hell bent on bastardizing teh profits coinz exchanger block-chainz for some perverse money making gimmick scheme "investment"

Get your fucking shit together people.. your "investment" is showing  

If you can't figure this out on your own then you should not be "investing" in unregulated ICO shit coin schemes for profit on insecure govt compliant "exchangers"

I wonder when the next noob pajeet investard topic will get posted asking.. "What coin should i buy with $1,001 dollars ?"  

Noob i hate to be a broken record but you are missing option #3.
*OTHER* currencies...
You see Investards you can salivate over your ROI's with actual real currencies ..something no ICO can ever be.

For example Litecoin is an alternative digital currency like Bitcoin and no it is not an ICO.
The way ICO's work means they can not be a fairly launched open source decentralized digital currency.
Which is what option #3 is all about.

You know it's surprising you NOOBS don't know that.
You are so wrapped up in the ICO hysteria fer teh ROI's HODL MOON profits coins on teh exchangers that you sort of missed the entire point and 8 years of history before you got here.

And what really amuses the shit out of me is you same noobs line up to jiggle your dick-holsters about crypto as though you know things.. Not quite pajeets  

The thing is you know what i said above though.
You have been told relentlessly and you all simply ignore the 3rd option and rail on about ICO's.
Sort of like if you all collectively ignore the criticism of the ICO scheme system you can by force and by majority over-ride morality and common sense and legitimize a scammy corrupt centralized "cash grab" system.

Essentially a community take over to lower the bar.

Besides half of you NOOBS that post here all the time are simply the same scammy asshole dev's who are MAKING the "coins".. so your deceitful puppet account faggotry lends you no credence here NOOBS.
Bad is bad.. no matter how much Bitcoin / FIAT profits you make from it.

And lately i see a little trend where noobs are riding the ole ICO's are bad Spoetnik rant coattails.
Problem is you are full of shit.
You follow profits so when the profits evaporate on SCRYPT clones you then show up here en mass to bad mouth them.
Same with ICO's.
And as soon as the profits return you are behind the scenes trading them for profits.
You are in fact 100% full of shit.. faking morality and ideology because it's trendy (thanks to Spoetnik)
But i was here all along livin' the trend pajeets.
You will never be me ROFL    

How do i know ?
Because all ICO's are scammy by design but each and every single one of you out there are going to line up to forever play the *some* routine cliche'd retort.
Yup... they are bad, ohhh so bad ..except the one i am bag holding of course  

..or made that i am defending on theTalk with sock-puppet accounts.

You know shitbirds it's a bit late to line up to talk shit about ICO's when your trade history clearly shows you were all along supporting them for profits.. or making them.

Hell i just looked and i seen 16,000 ANN topics and last month i seen 14,000.
This shit is simply ridiculous.  
And you know it which is why you are faking this morality routine *now.

Nope.

You see all 100% of these guys are fully aware of what is going on.
Nobody is getting duped and tricked into supporting a coin.
They do it and go in willingly in the hopes of profit.
Hence why this shit is a new age digital ponzi / pyramid scheme.
ALL OF IT !
Crypto is a ponzi / pyramid machine for teh ROI's.
It's why all the noobs here showed up.

I have said that probably a thousand times here on the forum in the last 5 years and you all still play stupid.

You all will gladly line up to support Paycoin until it becomes embarrassing and you worry the price will tank..
Then you will dump and show up bashing it calling it a scam.
But before that you were on your knees.

Your actions betray you Investards.
You can't wiggle out of it with cliche'd bullshit retorts on a forum.
Reality itself is crystal clear and free to see for all forever.

When you say what is quoted you are preaching to the investard-choir.
You learned the cliche'd retort and you are teaching it to the other greedy profiteers so they too can keep chanting their shitbird chucklefuck pajeet crypto-mantra.
But all of earth sees straight through it.
It's simply instructing users on how to operate within the pyramid scheme system that is crypto.

Noobs show up and they learn these same old dumb fuck cliche'd retorts and they think they are working.
Problem is the people here don't care.
They are already sold on greed and don't need to be convinced of anything.
The morality game is a facade.. unless i do it of course.
And i can say that because i am probably the only one in crypto who never had anything to do with an ICO coin.

So no ..there is no profiteers being tricked.
You can't rape the willing Investards  
These kidiots know damn well there is risk but the high profit potential over rides the integrity they are SUPPOSE to have.

In case you didn't figure it out i am smarter than all of you combined.
But to be fair i think many more around the globe just don't come here and speak up.
Smart people with class & integrity would not be here doing this shit.