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241  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to determine the 'exact-moment-price' of a coin ? on: January 30, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
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CoinMarketCap’s decision to suddenly include these prices again is rather controversial. That’s especially because they never gave any indication of doing so, nor have they let users disable South Korean prices again. Live Coin Watch, one of the few competitors to CoinMarketCap, does provide that functionality, but their prices are slightly off at times. It is evident there is no real reason to exclude South Korean prices, even though they do skew the global average a tiny bit.

It will be interesting to see if CoinMarketCap sticks with this decision once South Korean prices start going berserk once again.
https://themerkle.com/coinmarketcap-reinstates-south-korean-price-tracking/
242  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to determine the 'exact-moment-price' of a coin ? on: January 30, 2018, 10:57:52 AM
Price will always vary from different different exchange.
yep, ->
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Looking at things from a distance, it is evident that the cryptocurrency hype is very real in South Korea right now. Market prices are still at least 10% higher compared to the rest of the world, and that situation will not change anytime soon.
https://themerkle.com/understanding-the-complex-nature-of-south-koreas-cryptocurrency-ecosystem/
243  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VISA rages WAR against Bitcoin! BANNED on: January 26, 2018, 07:31:00 PM
Visa and Mastercard Now Charge an Additional Fee for Buying Cryptocurrency
Using a Payment Card on Coinbase Becomes More Expensive
https://themerkle.com/visa-and-mastercard-now-charge-an-additional-fee-for-buying-cryptocurrency/
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244  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to determine the 'exact-moment-price' of a coin ? on: January 19, 2018, 01:53:53 PM
Livecoinwatch[1] also has this feature, whereas the prices updates every like 5 seconds or so in a specific coin's market tab. But if you want more specific data, why not go to the exchanges instead? Open them up in multiple browser tabs.


[1] https://www.livecoinwatch.com/
when i look for example ,at the same moment, at livecoinwatch , and coincap , there is a difference of 100 dollars in btc price ... quite a 'lot' isn't it ?  Roll Eyes



Re-read what I said. I didn't say that you look at the overall price of BTC, I said look at the prices on the markets tab; and another thing: like I said on my recent reply to this same exact thread, view the prices on exchanges instead if you want accurate data.
1 thing i have learned is to NOT make a choice for buy/sell on just 1 'reference' like for example CoinMarketCap alone -> https://themerkle.com/coinmarketcap-excludes-south-korean-prices-total-market-cap-drops-by-50bn/
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245  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to determine the 'exact-moment-price' of a coin ? on: January 19, 2018, 12:03:21 PM
Livecoinwatch[1] also has this feature, whereas the prices updates every like 5 seconds or so in a specific coin's market tab. But if you want more specific data, why not go to the exchanges instead? Open them up in multiple browser tabs.


[1] https://www.livecoinwatch.com/
when i look for example ,at the same moment, at livecoinwatch , and coincap , there is a difference of 100 dollars in btc price ... quite a 'lot' isn't it ?  Roll Eyes

246  Economy / Trading Discussion / How to determine the 'exact-moment-price' of a coin ? on: January 19, 2018, 11:50:07 AM
There are several exchanges , with sometimes 'huge' differences between their prices of a coin at the same moment ... so... i was wondering, how to know the 'exact' price of a coin at that same moment ? I know, that coincap ( https://coincap.io/ ) has an update every second, but there also is sometimes a price showing , and 1 second later, that price can sometimes have a 'difference' of hundred of dollars  Roll Eyes  .... Also cryptowatch (https://cryptowat.ch/  = from kraken) shows several exchange prices, though, there is also sometimes a huge difference of the price of a coin between those exchanges at the same moment  .... there should be a international 'reference' of al those crypto coins, showing the 'real average prices' of all the exchanges or something ... just my 2 cents ...  Roll Eyes
247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VISA rages WAR against Bitcoin! BANNED on: January 18, 2018, 12:20:11 PM
Guys, (some of) you have to be malicious, because if you're saying these things genuinely I have to seriously satrt worrying about the genepool!

There is no secret agenda, and no "attack on crypto". VISA chose to terminate one of its partners (completely, not just the crypto cards they issue) because their partner infringed their contractual obligations. This is standard business practice. It has nothing to do with VISa attacking crypto (keep in mind they choose to accept Monaco as a member). Even if you didn't trust their satements, why would they allow other issuers to operate elsewhere?

The only reason this has had such a big impact is because all these projects were weak and poorly thought out rushes to the market, all relying on the same dodgy single point of failure.

Crypto people are crypto's worst enemy, worse than VISA, thank Banks, and than regulators.
Visa CEO: Bitcoin is Not a Payment System -> https://news.bitcoin.com/visa-ceo-bitcoin-not-payment-system/

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U.S. Justice Department actions

In October 2010, Visa and MasterCard reached a settlement with the U.S. Justice Department in another antitrust case. The companies agreed to allow merchants displaying their logos to decline certain types of cards (because interchange fees differ), or to offer consumers discounts for using cheaper cards.[54]

In 1998 the Department of Justice sued Visa over rules prohibiting its issuing banks from doing business with American Express and Discover. The Department of Justice won its case at trial in 2001 and the verdict was upheld on appeal. American Express and Discover filed suit as well.[55]
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Anti-trust issues in Europe

In 2002 the European Commission exempted Visa’s multilateral interchange fees from Article 81 of the EC Treaty that prohibits anti-competitive arrangements.[56] However, this exemption expired on December 31, 2007. In the United Kingdom, MasterCard has reduced its interchange fees while it is under investigation by the Office of Fair Trading.

In January 2007, the European Commission issued the results of a two-year inquiry into the retail banking sector. The report focuses on payment cards and interchange fees. Upon publishing the report, Commissioner Neelie Kroes said the "present level of interchange fees in many of the schemes we have examined does not seem justified." The report called for further study of the issue.[57]

On March 26, 2008, the European Commission opened an investigation into Visa's multilateral interchange fees for cross-border transactions within the EEA as well as into the "Honor All Cards" rule (under which merchants are required to accept all valid Visa-branded cards).[58][needs update]

The antitrust authorities of EU Member States other than the United Kingdom are also investigating MasterCard's and Visa's interchange fees. For example, on January 4, 2007, the Polish Office of Competition and Consumer Protection fined twenty banks a total of PLN 164 million (about $56 million) for jointly setting MasterCard's and Visa's interchange fees.[59][60]

In December 2010, Visa reached a settlement with the European Union in yet another antitrust case, promising to reduce debit card payments to 0.2 percent of a purchase.[61] A senior official from the European Central Bank called for a break-up of the Visa/MasterCard duopoly by creation of a new European debit card for use in the Single Euro Payments Area (SEPA).[62] After Visa's blocking of payments to WikiLeaks, members of the European Parliament expressed concern that payments from European citizens to a European corporation could apparently be blocked by the US, and called for a further reduction in the dominance of Visa and MasterCard in the European payment system.[63]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Inc.
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248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: is it a good idea to buy ADA right now? on: January 10, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
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Zug, Switzerland– 8th, January 2018 - Cardano Foundation, IOHK and Emurgo, the three partners behind leading blockchain Cardano, today announce that ADA, Cardano’s cryptocurrency, is now tradeable on BitMEX, the cryptocurrency leveraged trading platform.
https://forum.cardanohub.org/t/8-1-18-cardano-launches-ada-futures-on-bitmex/5500
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249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VISA rages WAR against Bitcoin! BANNED on: January 06, 2018, 12:34:50 PM
Any other ideas how to get  visa card like? I think there will be investors who want to accept cryptocurrencies.
There is China-Unionpay -> http://en.unionpay.com/englobalization/all_globzlization/eneurope/list_eneurope.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_UnionPay#cite_note-Foreign-11

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Visa is the world's second largest card payment organization (debit and credit cards combined), after being surpassed by China UnionPay in 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Inc.

China UnionPay Files Blockchain Patent to Connect ATM Network
https://www.coinspeaker.com/2017/08/29/china-unionpay-files-blockchain-patent-connect-atm-network/
250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VISA rages WAR against Bitcoin! BANNED on: January 06, 2018, 12:43:56 AM
VISA recently ordered to banned all BTC debit cards.  Currently banned cards:  Bitwala, Cryptopay, Wirex, and TenX and xapo.

I am personally a XAPO user and got following email:

"Dear Cardholder,
 
Yesterday, January 4th 2018, the Xapo Card issuer Wave Crest Holdings, Ltd. was instructed by Visa® to close all cards of its Visa® programs effective immediately.
 
Unfortunately, Xapo did not receive any anticipated notice to prepare for - and have our cardholders prepare for -  the cancellation of our Card program."

A very sad day  Huh Huh
there is also this topic about that -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2695939.0
and if you search wikipedia for it -> TOP MONOPOLY ->
Anti-trust issues in Europe , etc....  ->
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A senior official from the European Central Bank called for a break-up of the Visa/MasterCard duopoly by creation of a new European debit card for use in the Single Euro Payments Area (SEPA).[62] After Visa's blocking of payments to WikiLeaks, members of the European Parliament expressed concern that payments from European citizens to a European corporation could apparently be blocked by the US, and called for a further reduction in the dominance of Visa and MasterCard in the European payment system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Inc.
251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wave Crest (issuer of prepaid bitcoin cards) was shut down today on: January 05, 2018, 11:27:07 PM
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The reasons for Visa electing to wield the banhammer are unclear, though the company has long been regarded as hostile to bitcoin.
Web-users who value their financial freedom have long been been wary of Visa. This is the company, after all, which facilitated the financial blockade of Wikileaks in 2011. That decision ultimately proved to be Wikileaks’ salvation, with Julian Assange later crowing that the switch to bitcoin caused a windfall as the cryptocurrency began to multiply in price.
https://news.bitcoin.com/visa-veto-leaves-several-european-cryptocurrency-cards-locked-out/

time to 'ban' Visa also ?  Roll Eyes
We need to stop using these stupid debit cards in the first place. To boot, you need to sacrifice significant privacy to use them.
what are good 'alternatives' then to those Visa/etc. cards ?
252  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wave Crest (issuer of prepaid bitcoin cards) was shut down today on: January 05, 2018, 11:07:36 PM
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The reasons for Visa electing to wield the banhammer are unclear, though the company has long been regarded as hostile to bitcoin.
Web-users who value their financial freedom have long been been wary of Visa. This is the company, after all, which facilitated the financial blockade of Wikileaks in 2011. That decision ultimately proved to be Wikileaks’ salvation, with Julian Assange later crowing that the switch to bitcoin caused a windfall as the cryptocurrency began to multiply in price.
https://news.bitcoin.com/visa-veto-leaves-several-european-cryptocurrency-cards-locked-out/

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Visa bans cryptocurrency-backed cards, leaving thousands in the lurch
Visa, a payment network, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
"All the cards were shut down in one second," Lazarichev said
https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2018/01/05/visa-bans-cryptocurrency-backed-cards.html

time to 'ban' Visa also ?  Roll Eyes
253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buy or trade ripple on: January 04, 2018, 10:12:35 PM
My opinion, stay away from this empty token, is the biggest scam ever. Greedy people will get scammed banks one more time.
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Your bitcoin; your litecoin; your euros; anything connected to a Ripple gateway can be locked down. No other cryptocurrency has a similar framework in place, which grants exchanges unprecedented powers to lock up funds at the drop of a hat.
https://news.bitcoin.com/ripple-gateways-can-freeze-users-funds-time/
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254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buy or trade ripple on: January 04, 2018, 05:21:00 PM
I’m a little bit confused as I’m new to this my friend is making a fortune from ripple but not actually owning any as he is investing in it, is this better then having ripple sitting in a wallet?
XRP is a centralized coin if you want to get profit from it dont hold it for too long as it is controlled by the bankers.
As i understand, there is a max of 100 bln ripples, but with every transaction, that amount 'shrinks' , is it then not so, that in future there are no rpples anymore ? Or is it that the company building the Ripple protocol, OpenCoin, can 'make ripples as they please' ... like fiat 'printing' ?  Roll Eyes
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A Distributed Ledger with Global Freeze Functionality   

The “freezing” of McCaleb’s funds revealed an interesting feature tied to the Ripple public database. Ripple Labs can freeze XRP accounts using two possible methods: one can stop the functionality of an individual account while the “global freeze” can bring the entire network to a halt. The global freeze is not a rumor,
https://news.bitcoin.com/is-the-centralized-ripple-database-with-the-biggest-pre-mine-really-a-bitcoin-competitor/
no ripple for me , tnx ...  Roll Eyes
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buy or trade ripple on: January 04, 2018, 12:11:32 PM
I’m a little bit confused as I’m new to this my friend is making a fortune from ripple but not actually owning any as he is investing in it, is this better then having ripple sitting in a wallet?
XRP is a centralized coin if you want to get profit from it dont hold it for too long as it is controlled by the bankers.
As i understand, there is a max of 100 bln ripples, but with every transaction, that amount 'shrinks' , is it then not so, that in future there are no rpples anymore ? Or is it that the company building the Ripple protocol, OpenCoin, can 'make ripples as they please' ... like fiat 'printing' ?  Roll Eyes


256  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Better to get your crypto-coins out of USA ? on: December 19, 2017, 07:17:56 PM
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Any American bitcoin investors who were hoping to avoid paying taxes for their profits this year by trading them for altcoins are in for an unpleasant surprise. New regulations have been tailored specifically to make sure U.S. taxpayers can’t use this method to avoid giving the IRS their cut.
https://news.bitcoin.com/trading-bitcoin-for-an-altcoin-wont-shield-you-from-the-irs-anymore/
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257  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Better to get your crypto-coins out of USA ? on: December 13, 2017, 10:29:38 PM
Greedy uncle SAM want your crypto's Roll Eyes
https://www.coindesk.com/uncle-sams-surprise-tax-reform-impact-crypto-investors/ 



258  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bank of America Receives Approval for a Cryptocurrency Exchange Patent on: December 13, 2017, 10:31:58 AM
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While BOA Captures the Most Cryptocurrency Patents, the Company Also Likes to Close Customer Accounts if They Trade Bitcoin

In addition to BOA trying to capture a lot of blockchain and cryptocurrency patents, the company isn’t too friendly towards bitcoin traders. The financial institution has been well-known for closing people’s bank accounts if they trade bitcoin.
https://news.bitcoin.com/uspto-approves-bank-of-americas-cryptocurrency-exchange-patent/
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259  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bittrex Customers Locked Out on: December 12, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
Iranians Trader Accuse Bittrex of Withholding Funds
https://news.bitcoin.com/leaked-documents-withheld-funds-altcoin-pumps-bittrex-faces-increasing-scrutiny/
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260  Other / Politics & Society / Executive Order 6102 on: December 12, 2017, 09:55:53 AM
I did not know this, sometimes it is good to search some history  Tongue
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The fact that the custodial bank of the 5000 ounces of gold is the bank that would subsequently become JPMorgan is not lost on us.

Finally, to those who have some gold ETF certificates in a brokerage account, which by law are the possession by DTCC's Cede & Co. - a bank owned institution - we wish the best of luck to anyone hoping to preserve of even recover any of the invested wealth in such instruments.

And remember: when in doubt, recall Bernanke's immortal words: "gold is not money."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/what-30-years-gold-confiscation-us-government-looks

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2013/04/05/governments-still-heavy-handed-80-years-after-fdrs-gold-confiscation/#3160d22c16a6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WB4e3XUGp4

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