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241  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: December 03, 2013, 08:15:10 PM
I'm order 3062 and they told me week 7 - wasn't happy as when I ordered it said week 6. And a week can make a massive difference.

BitMine - why is my order earlier but delivered later?

BitMine - please can I have an official response? My order number is 142 orders earlier, I have fully paid, and yet it seems I'm getting it a week later. What incentive is there for people to pay when queue position is NOT guaranteed.

If there is no official response, then I think people considering paying up front to get in the delivery queue should be very wary.



It is stated on the website, the position in the queue is confirmed only when the payment is cleared in our accounts. Some banks take less, some banks take more, if in the meantime there's a lot of pending orders (like it is the case these last days) then it may get shifted by a few days. Sorry but the only way to avoid this is 1) pay for your order as early as possible or 2) pay in bitcoins, in which case the position in the shipping queue is confirmed within a couple of hours.


Hi,

I still have a December reservation. I never received any emails that my payment was due as your newsletter had indicated before you removed me from being able to pay.  Can I pay it pleaaase?? :-(  

Thx


Same here

Ordered 09.09.2013 under this option:
„as soon as your order is ready for assembling you will be notified by e-mail of the relevant link to confirm and pay the due amount.”


On 28.11.2013 it was deleted witouth a message.

After i asked why, i get this email today:

"Wird eine Bestellung nicht innerhalb von  5 Tagen bezahlt, dann löscht unser System die Bestellung. D.h. es muss eine neue Besellung ausgelöst werden."

Means that your reservation will be deleted after 5 days, if you not pay.
They let the reservation in my account for over 1 Month, now they say, 5 days is the max.


So no idea where they pull the 5 day's limit out. But seems that their customer protecion plan turns in Bitmine Protection Plan Smiley

Mastah

Correct. They LIED and never sent any email to confirm the due payment as they literally indicated above. They FAILED to send that due payment email. Hence, many of us LOST our orders because of their oversight! Now they should man up and allow customers that have reservations to PAY in the same queue!!. We don't want them to sneak and delete the reservations like they are now doing and then pretending that they expired. Well, guess what Bitmine? we did contact you IN ADVANCE prior to you deleting the reservations!.

Please DO FIX this issue so people with those December reservations can pay!!!! You figure out how to fix this. Thanks.
242  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: December 03, 2013, 12:15:02 PM
I'm order 3062 and they told me week 7 - wasn't happy as when I ordered it said week 6. And a week can make a massive difference.

BitMine - why is my order earlier but delivered later?

BitMine - please can I have an official response? My order number is 142 orders earlier, I have fully paid, and yet it seems I'm getting it a week later. What incentive is there for people to pay when queue position is NOT guaranteed.

If there is no official response, then I think people considering paying up front to get in the delivery queue should be very wary.



It is stated on the website, the position in the queue is confirmed only when the payment is cleared in our accounts. Some banks take less, some banks take more, if in the meantime there's a lot of pending orders (like it is the case these last days) then it may get shifted by a few days. Sorry but the only way to avoid this is 1) pay for your order as early as possible or 2) pay in bitcoins, in which case the position in the shipping queue is confirmed within a couple of hours.


Hi,

I still have a December reservation. I never received any emails that my payment was due as your newsletter had indicated before you removed me from being able to pay.  Can I pay it pleaaase?? :-( 

Thx
243  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow announces 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.49/Ghash on: December 03, 2013, 10:36:33 AM
Wait a minute!

What kind of shipping/delivery timeframe guarantees do we have per as your "Terms of Sale"? What about when the SELLER misses their own delivery timeframe of the product/service (including hosted)?? Not a single clause where Black Arrow takes the slightest responsibility? What kind of accountability is that? Please clarify and update your TOS:

Code:
Delivery Terms
9.1 The Products are delivered to the delivery address specified by the Purchaser, unless otherwise agreed. The delivery date is provided for information purposes only and shall not be binding on Us.
The Purchaser is not entitled to refuse acceptance of the Products, withdraw, cancel or revoke the order or make claims for compensation due to ANY delayed delivery.

What?Huh So technically, you can choose to keep our payments forever without delivering absolutely anything?Huh?

Code:
9.2 Where delivery is delayed due to any of the circumstances constituting force majeure in accordance with "Force Majeure" below or due to any act or omission by the Purchaser, 
the delivery period shall be extended by such a period as is reasonable in light of the circumstances.
The delivery period shall also be extended where the cause of the delay arises after the expiry of the originally agreed delivery period.

What's a "reasonable" extension period?
What kind of refunds would apply due to Seller delays??  Why are delays not explicitly mentioned as a reason to get any type of refunds?? This is the single most worrying part about Black Arrow....

Code:
8.4 When the customer pays in different currency than USD, any liability we might have (refunds, repairs, etc) will be calculated in USD at the agreed exchange ratio at the time of payment. 
The customer understands that we are accepting payment in different currency only for the convenience of our customers. It is customer's choice to pay in different currency.

Are you saying that you'd refund us in BTC using the date of the refund request or the date of the original payment installments? That's not very clear.

 What about returning exactly the same amount of BTC we paid when a delay is caused by Black Arrow, which in turn causes miner not to break even in those same BTC terms?

Thanks for clarifying!
 
244  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Gathering funds for legal action against HashFast (troll-free) on: November 18, 2013, 11:19:52 PM
What are the chances of 100% bitcoin refund?
Zero. The purchase was denominated in USD.
But you can choose between a 100% USD refund and 10% of your initial BTC back.

(still looking for a valid consumer protection lawyer). You, "American", suggest me one you trust.

I think that's incorrect. It doesn't matter what currency it was denominated at. If you paid X amount of ***BTC*** then you get whatever amount and currency you paid with, so BTC in this case. If the actual payment was in dollars, then yes dollars should be the currency to employ but that was not the case.


You get whatever the judge awards you.

"Judge"?? As if we didn't have ecommerce laws already?? It's not the first time that a customer demands a refund from a website using standard claim process irrespective of the what the exchange rate they based their payment. It's always about the currency they ultimately received from the customer. Apples in. Apples Out. That's it.
245  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: November 14, 2013, 07:13:26 AM
Feature request: is it possible to add a small, non-intrusive icon in one of the corners of the volume pane in order to toggle on/off volume in logarithm scale? (displayed after pressing a small 'L' in that pane for example ). The reason is that volume is much more volatile than price, hence when there are very large volume bars, it's very difficult to assess the volume difference among the smallest volume bars. This feature wouldn't crowd or obstruct in any way the cleanness of the existing layout. Hope makes sense.
246  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Gathering funds for legal action against HashFast (troll-free) on: November 13, 2013, 05:51:26 AM
What are the chances of 100% bitcoin refund?
Zero. The purchase was denominated in USD.
But you can choose between a 100% USD refund and 10% of your initial BTC back.

(still looking for a valid consumer protection lawyer). You, "American", suggest me one you trust.

I think that's incorrect. It doesn't matter what currency it was denominated at. If you paid X amount of ***BTC*** then you get whatever amount and currency you paid with, so BTC in this case. If the actual payment was in dollars, then yes dollars should be the currency to employ but that was not the case.
247  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: November 07, 2013, 11:05:31 PM
personally at this point im hoping there are major delays and i can just get a refund of my exact amount of coins. Its clear at this point the correct move would have been knc and as much as I dislike BFL, BFL may end up shipping before hashfast.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are not going to get a refund of "exact amount of coins".  Prices were in USD, invoices in USD, all advertising in USD.  If you get a refund it will be in USD.  If you want that refund paid in BTC (instead of say a bank wire) it will be at the exchange rate of the day.  The only way you are getting exact coins back is if by some small miracle the exchange rate crashes back to the same one it was on the day you paid.

You don't have to believe me, and don't attack the messenger.  You can hold out hope and wait for Hashfast to contradict me but that contradiction isn't coming.

False. You paid in BTC. You get your money in BTC irrespective of how many dollars it was valued. Period.
248  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: November 06, 2013, 09:01:44 AM
What are those little left-pointing arrows in the ladder chart? They don't seem to be the last bid/asks added to the book nor the last bids/asks transacted either........
Can someone please clarify?
249  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: bitcoinity.org/markets - live bitcoin price charts on: November 06, 2013, 07:30:01 AM
 
Any way that the charts can be displayed in full screen? Today, they oddly use only the upper half of the screen (as seen from an Apple Display).

250  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: November 05, 2013, 08:52:56 PM
Hi,

Could you please display the bid/ask ladder not only for <1hr charts but the rest of the other Time Periods, pleaaase? This wouldn't require reducing the real estate of anything. That's probably the #1 inconsistency. Other than that, it's peeeerfect and I wouldn't change a thing!!  Good job!

Thanks!
251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best online litecoin wallet? on: November 04, 2013, 09:05:46 AM
This just tells you how fucked up is Litecoin as that they don't even have an online wallet. Bitcoin is like a nice visit to Finland. Litecoin is like going to a shit dump wasteland in India.
Why would ANYBODY mine litecoin anyway??? Bitcoin can adopt any improvements that Litecoin could offer AND it's already is getting investor, merchant and infrastructure support.
Is litecoin just some sort of bitcoin for the poor? Competing digital currencies is helpful but I just can't see how much better it can be than BTC.
252  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: [GUIDE] BitFury Miner Support/Tuning on: November 03, 2013, 01:38:46 AM
A better test would be to power the card and measure voltage at the top of the Pulse inductor. If you get ~0.75v there (or whatever it's adjusted to), the power circuit (including that capacitor) is probably fine. I only say "probably" because I just fixed a board that was missing a cap on the back side. Before replacing that tiny back-side cap, the voltage at the Pulse top was correct, but the card wouldn't hash stably.

okay, i measured, it was 0.3V or 0V, what i can do next?



problem card,A1, not detected


31      aIfDSo  55      1.241   2.199   50      23      0       0       120     [8:E]   708     3 4 2 1 2 2 4 5 4 $
32      aIfDSo  55      1.639   2.236   66      37      0       0       122     [8:F]   693     2 3 4 7 2 4 6 4 3 $
33      aIfDSo  55      0.670   0.495   27      0       0       0       27      [C:0]   730     2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 $
34      aIfDSo  55      1.763   2.401   71      28      0       0       131     [C:1]   687     2 2 5 5 3 3 4 6 4 $
35      aIfDSo  55      0.000   0.037   0       0       0       0       2       [C:2]   756     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 $
36      aIfDSo  55      0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       [C:3]   756     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 $
37      aIfDSo  55      0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       [C:4]   756     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 $
38      aIfDSo  55      0.794   1.741   32      23      0       0       95      [C:5]   724     2 2 1 3 2 1 1 2 3 $
39      aIfDSo  55      1.440   2.566   58      36      0       0       140     [C:6]   699     4 3 3 3 4 6 6 5 2 $
40      aIfDSo  55      1.514   2.419   61      38      0       0       132     [C:7]   697     3 5 5 4 3 4 5 1 5 $
41      aIfDSo  55      0.869   2.511   35      48      0       0       137     [C:8]   721     1 0 2 2 1 3 1 3 4 $
42      aifdso  55      0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       [C:9]   756     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 $
43      aIfDSo  55      1.663   2.383   67      40      0       0       130     [C:A]   693     5 6 3 3 5 2 5 6 4 $
44      aIfDSo  55      1.738   2.456   70      34      0       0       134     [C:B]   689     5 3 4 3 3 4 5 3 7 $
45      aIfDSo  55      1.266   2.438   51      28      0       0       133     [C:C]   706     3 3 5 3 4 3 2 2 3 $
46      aIfDSo  55      1.763   2.364   71      16      0       0       129     [C:D]   687     5 4 4 4 5 5 5 4 3 $
47      aIfDSo  55      1.936   2.511   78      27      0       0       137     [C:E]   680     5 5 5 5 4 7 5 5 5 $
48      aIfDSo  55      1.589   2.364   64      20      0       0       129     [C:F]   693     4 5 4 5 5 4 4 4 2 $
49      aIfDSo  55      0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       [D:0]   756     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 $
50      aIfDSo  55      0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       [D:1]   756     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 $
51      aIfDSo  55      0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       [D:2]   756     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 $
52      aifdso  55      0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       [D:3]   756     0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 $
...

speed:5092 noncerate[GH/s]:53.973 (0.574/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:85.449 good:2174 errors:1078 spi-errors:1 miso-error$
4:      832     19.787  29.564  797     361     1       4
8:      880     17.180  29.198  692     379     0       0
C:      880     17.006  26.687  685     338     0       0
D:      880     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0
E:      864     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0
F:      756     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0


okay, lets start at the top:
1) you are forcing tuning to run at 55 when you use "aIfDSo 55". the fact you are seeing more than 10% errors means you should not have them higher than 53 or 54. change them to auto-tuning. (AIfDSo)
2) a few chips (such as 52) are set as "aifdso". this wont work in the bitfury system unless you were forcing custom timing clocks and other info to the chip (you aren't). change them to AIfDSo.
3) where are 1-30?
4) Your chips are producing way to many errors. half of their hash rate is actually errors. You need to cool your chips better. The chips currently at zero likely switched off because the autotuning was overwhelmed by the high error rate. you need to have good cooling fans, and likely add some heatsinks.
5) if you havent yet, update your chainminer following the method mentioned several times in this thread.

do the above and then check again. it should resolve 90% of your hashrate issues. as for the 0.3V you are measuring, try again after the changes. if its still <0.6V, check the values of the resistors R01F and R02F. in a board with capacitors these should be 1.0 and 1.25 k(ohm) respectively. In a board without capacitors they should be -?- and 1.7k(ohm) respectively (i dont know the R01F value for the board, but its likely not 1.0k like the first version)

if your resistors are not these values, thats the issue. if they are correct, then its onto the next step. probably the small TI chip found right beside them (it has about 12 or 14 pins) that is responsible for bringing 12v->0.7v

Wait...   are you saying that for chips that don't work/generate too many errors, setting them as aifdso doesn't work?? if not, what additional information needs to be provided to actually turn them off?? I can see a bunch of zero's in that line, which that seems to indicate they are technically switched off, so I don't understand why you're saying that aifdso alone doesn't fix the problem.... Thx for clarifying...
253  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe on: November 03, 2013, 01:22:34 AM
Hello everyone!

I apologize for the little time I've had to answer e-mails and forums. I will do my best to catch up in the coming days..

I've put up our last gold master image on Mega.co.nz for download (HINT: this image contains the missing piece from our easter egg hunt )

News:
- As some of you may have noticed, we have reopened M-board sales. More products are soon to follow including H-cards at new lower prices, new M&H cards, USB sticks etc.
- There will be no more preorders, everything is shipped within 24-48h depending on received order volume. We try to ship same day as much as we can.
- There are even more new products in development, but I will not go into details before they're working rock solid.
- And last but not least we have a new batch of chips with a new logo for teh lulz:





I hope this doesn't slow down/alienate/freak out foreign customs processing when they see those chips. It certainly won't accelerate it. Lol!  Cheesy
254  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with Live Trading USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP on: October 30, 2013, 09:19:03 AM

 I don't see necessarily Kraken as a charting platform, but they seem to have very powerful trading features. I just need California enabled to transfer all my MtGox moneys to Kraken. I am an active trader. :-)

Any estimates on when will you add California?? What specific stage and timeline are you in this regard? I think California just passed some bills related to cryptocurrencies AFAIK.
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 28, 2013, 04:51:18 AM
How do we set up the KNCs to mine alt-coins? Care to elaborate?

Don't stuck with Bitcoin.
Underperformed Saturn 180 GH/s
Bitcoin Mining BTCGuild 0,23 BTC (Daily)
PPcoin Solo mining Found 3 Blocks 3 X 207 PPC = 621 PPC X 0.0020200 (Cryptsy Price) = 1.25442 BTC (Daily)
Terracoin Solo Mining 0,3342 BTC (Daily)
 And without difficulty worries!!!


Download PPcoin Client
Install PPcoin client to a windows PC
Run once ppcoin client and quit
If your PC is Windows 7 goto Users/your user name/AppData/Roaming/PPcoin and create ppcoin.conf as follows

rpcuser=anyname
rpcpassword=anypassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=your pc ip
rpcport=9902
daemon=1
server=1
listen=1
gen=0

Then restart your ppcoin client and let download the whole block chain.
After that goto your miner and point to
your pc ip:9902
anyname (as above in ppcoin.conf)
anypassword
Restart cgminer, ensure via ssh that is working and hashing and wait
Average block finding time is 4-8 hours for a Saturn (each block equals to 0,41 BTC)


Could someone please elaborate on how to "point" the miner to the PC in a bit more detail?
256  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: October 26, 2013, 10:18:11 PM
Very smart, clean and elegant design.  You must have worked at Apple or are a trader. ;-) Unlike other charts, FINALLY someone gets the point that a chart is meant to be the central piece of info @ FULL screen utilization!! It's very hard to make recommendations to such a smart design.
TOS info very cleverly and neatly presented in a compact way so the proportions are excellent.  Do NOT split more bid/ask TOS columns or add any other columns. If people want to see more details on that, just refer them to clarkmoody for that or other sites.

Don't let people influence you to load it with tons of crap features that would either reduce the real estate of the main chart or make the site slower. The chart cleanness in liquid, large display is what makes your site unique.

Congrats! and keep up the good work!!
257  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet on: October 24, 2013, 02:55:05 AM
Hashfast,

You are NOT ahead of schedule if you or your suppliers f*d up by two weeks. That's BS. Nobody cares if a mini-stage of your project is "ahead' of others if the end outcome is late.
The bottom-line is that you/your suppliers screwed by almost 2 difficulty jumps or 3 weeks from the lower-bound shipping target (October 20th). That's going to break the ROI for many of us.

Thanks for the update and looking forward to next steps.



258  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 23, 2013, 01:39:42 AM
no news = bad news.  I wish I got v1 hw with m-boards to actually have a unit to hash with in october.  This is the equivalent to recieving my unit at minium 7-10 days from now.  If you guys can't send it, I'd want my refund on OVN shipping except you'd refund me at the going rate and I would literally only be given a single bitcoin for a peice of hardware that costed me 1.5 btc in shipping.  OK im off my soapbox.

When you buy with bitcoins you are essentially selling them.  So make sure you buy the corresponding number of bitcoins.
When you get a refund you are essentially buying bitcoins.  So sell the corresponding amount.
That way your loss will be minimal.

Ok, now 400M diff is coming up in 2-3 days so you better be ready.  When the pricing for October H-boards was first announced at $350, the difficulty was what? 25-50M?  I don't remember the exact numbers.  But I do remember people on this forum projected 100M to 200M by the end of October.  Those people were flammed, others called them crazy.  

Than after August sold out in hours, the price was jacked up to $500.  But going by what they are really worth, they should be in the $50-$100 range for mining to be marginally profitable.

The problem is that the network is growing faster than anybody anticipated. Today, many believe that network WILL NOT continue on its path up.  Well, guess what, it most likely will.  It will flatten out at some point.  When?  

When everybody and their mother will think it will never flatten out.

Lol. YEs, the only company that increased prices with increased difficulty for those specific cards! Go figure!. Bitfury should stop sucking all miners gains and they should only care about keeping a reasonable USD margin. That's what their business model should be. An engineer friend of mine who works at Intel just saw one of my h-boards a few minutes ago and told me there's no way the marginal cost of that card is more than $100. It's a complete rip off for dummies.

Ask your friend about Intel's pricing model. or, any other company producing a product.

Yup, I did and ... told me it's more cost-based, it's an entirely different industry not aimed to generate miner utility AND they don't normally inflate prices 190% relative to 2 months later. But if you think paying $500 is a fantastic deal go for it. They are still the same number of boards available as yesterday. I guess that should tell you something about the attractiveness of that deal ;-)
259  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet on: October 22, 2013, 11:59:05 PM
C'mon Hashfast!! Some updates please! You have been worryingly quiet! What's the deal? How many weeks late are we talking about?

Your suspicious silence tells me you are starting to ship on Nov 4th the earliest. :-/
260  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 22, 2013, 09:37:35 PM
no news = bad news.  I wish I got v1 hw with m-boards to actually have a unit to hash with in october.  This is the equivalent to recieving my unit at minium 7-10 days from now.  If you guys can't send it, I'd want my refund on OVN shipping except you'd refund me at the going rate and I would literally only be given a single bitcoin for a peice of hardware that costed me 1.5 btc in shipping.  OK im off my soapbox.

When you buy with bitcoins you are essentially selling them.  So make sure you buy the corresponding number of bitcoins.
When you get a refund you are essentially buying bitcoins.  So sell the corresponding amount.
That way your loss will be minimal.

Ok, now 400M diff is coming up in 2-3 days so you better be ready.  When the pricing for October H-boards was first announced at $350, the difficulty was what? 25-50M?  I don't remember the exact numbers.  But I do remember people on this forum projected 100M to 200M by the end of October.  Those people were flammed, others called them crazy.  

Than after August sold out in hours, the price was jacked up to $500.  But going by what they are really worth, they should be in the $50-$100 range for mining to be marginally profitable.

The problem is that the network is growing faster than anybody anticipated. Today, many believe that network WILL NOT continue on its path up.  Well, guess what, it most likely will.  It will flatten out at some point.  When?  

When everybody and their mother will think it will never flatten out.

Lol. YEs, the only company that increased prices with increased difficulty for those specific cards! Go figure!. Bitfury should stop sucking all miners gains and they should only care about keeping a reasonable USD margin. That's what their business model should be. An engineer friend of mine who works at Intel just saw one of my h-boards a few minutes ago and told me there's no way the marginal cost of that card is more than $100. It's a complete rip off for dummies.
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