We shipped Yeah, shipping two units totally counts. |
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The cynicism returns!
Oh good, I was starting to miss it. |
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No way!  What do they look like? On behalf of myself, I demand pics. |
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Didn't I read something about a demo in December?  If so, then they've already failed to deliver on schedule. No wonder they're getting all pissy and quarrelsome. yep IT'S OKAY, WE'RE BETTER THAN BFL, HONEST |
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There's a fair chance that all three will ship. bASIC mostly suffered a PR disaster after the PR guy was kept in the dark, but if bASIC's assets are real then someone will buy them and start selling chips/boards. BFL said weeks in advance that their chips wouldn't be ready for CES. This is not news, and has nothing to do with whether they can eventually ship. Avalon's probably the least likely to be a scam. A PR disaster? Wow. Your just making this shit up I think. What "assets" does bASIC have even? What are you talking about? LukasBradley flew out and reported back that he wasn't able to "discern any value whatsoever" (quoted from memory, cuz that quote was so damn memorable). For God's sake man, wake up! When the vendor suggests all the customers get a chargeback rather than wait for refunds, you have to be a moron to think the project has "a fair chance". The only responsible thing to tell people is get out while you still can! Yes, that's the PR disaster. I'm very confused by how you can think that's not a PR disaster (regardless of whether it's a scam). LukasBradley was reporting on the fact that Tom didn't turn up to a meeting. He's not reporting that he want through all the paperwork etc. and found nothing. |
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This is mostly for my own amusement. Bump this to tell me how wrong or right I was when summer arrives  It's summer right now, and the difficulty is 3M. Sorry. BTW, in case you didn't realise, the southern hemisphere: - exists
- has people living in it
- has a 6 month phase offset for seasons
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Josh simply is a scumbag. End of story.
who caresI only care about whoever can deliver ASICs with the lowest power consumption. |
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When does a delay or the failure to meet expectations cross the line into a scam? Never, since that usually comes from bad luck or incompetence. Really now? Maybe I should announce we'll be shipping at our original shipping date of end of Feb, 2013 due to "bad luck" ?? You're not making sense...what's your point? You asked for opinions on when a delay can become a scam. I offered the opinion of "never" since a scam implies malice (which won't be present if the company really does intend to ship...), and you can't delay something that isn't coming. If you delayed right now to your original shipping date, I'd probably attribute that to bad luck, since your team seems pretty competent. By the way, how come you have time to troll Josh? I thought you were so busy trying to ship that you couldn't update... |
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p.s.
You are not the only one with 65nm simulations.  |
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BitSyncom stated that BFL would not be ready as claimed. They weren't. See the posting on BFL forums for that. Oh come on. BFL said BFL wouldn't be hashing at CES. |
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I would like to see this project continue to try to move forward. It doesn't matter how long it takes.
Same. |
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I would have thought any asic company would be thrilled to show off a working demo unit mining away. Absolutely thrilled to share in their hard work and amaze everyone. But i guess i live in bizarro world. Go figure. Marketing and common sense treatment of customers and future customers is harder then being an engineer. Two diff types of people i guess.
Pure speculation at this point however consider the following say they demo the working unit. Then the next day a group rob the facility. Perhaps it is as much a security step as it is a project policy that they stick with their time schedule. That is perhaps the dumbest thing I have heard.... You must be new. |
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I've began to question the literacy of the people in this forum.
I suspect that some posters were simply annoyed by the lack of demo, which had previously been promised. What constitute the difference between a delay and fraud. Malice. When does a delay or the failure to meet expectations cross the line into a scam? Never, since that usually comes from bad luck or incompetence. |
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cgminer is pretty much deprecated at this point :/ |
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When the URL says "BitPay", you're on the BitPay site. You're trusting BitPay with your BTC. Yeah, when the bank account says "Bank-ABC-Swift" I'm not sending money to the company but to the Bank that is running company's bank account?! Yes. You tell your bank to send money to their bank. Their bank adds money to their account. You need cash or Bitcoin to give money directly to them. To give them Bitcoins, they need to give you an address they own. Instead, you gave Bitcoins to BitPay since they don't accept Bitcoin directly. |
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When the URL says "BitPay", you're on the BitPay site. You're trusting BitPay with your BTC. Should I try shorter sentences? |
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Yes, sure. For those that are using paypal as a credit card processor to pay with their credit cards. Go, tell bitpay to start accepting credit cards!
Look at the URL in the image above. They use BitPay as a BTC processor to pay with BTC, by sending you to the BitPay site. You interact directly with BitPay. BitPay handles the conversions etc in a similar way to PayPal. |
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it's also why smart people paid with paypal/wire.
Actually, to pay with paypal you have to be a paypal customer. To pay with bitpay you don't have to be a bitpay customer. This, of course, is because you pay in bitcoins, not in $! For new buyers, signing up for a PayPal account is now optional. |
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Really? Where? Where does the law say that you can repay a 1000 dollar debt with a 10 dollar bill?
Lol. That's dollars and dollars. LOL. Only fools repay their 1000 dollar debt with 100x10 dollar bills. Clever guys like you will repay their 1000 debt with a single 10 bill? Posting as proof the text on this 10 dollar bill... Why don't you try to convince your bank about your rights? I'm not sure what your point is...usually there is a limit to how much in coins can be considered legal tender, but banks will take pretty much any quantity of anything. |
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