Dear All,
Changelog:
* Name & Logo changed to prevent any future issues and now we are free and safe from any issues in anyway.
* BIP Individualized Update Base.
* Checkpointed
The update is ready and finish being tested.
Github
https://github.com/navcoindev/navcoin
NavCoin Windows Wallet 3.3.0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pd3ma7m0wqdcyom/NavCoin%203.3.0%20Windows%20Wallet.zip
NavCoin Windows Installer (One-Click-Setup)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zhx3p7vra4ac1h/NavCoin%203.3.0.exe
*IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS*
QT WALLET
If you are using the QT wallet , just use click the included BAT file ONLY once , BEFORE running your QT Client/Wallet , this will AUTOMATICALLY create a folder named NavCoin and copy , I repeat only COPY all the files on %APPDATA%NavajoCoin including your wallet.dat to %APPDATA/NavCoin.
Your %APPDATA%NavajoCoin will be untouched and available to you for backup or whichever you want to do with it later on.
NAVCOIN WINDOWS INSTALLER (ONE-CLICK-SETUP)
Same goes for the One-Click-Executable/Setup which will do everything said above automatically. Including uninstalling of the previous version of NavajoCoin Client installed on the System and install the new version.
* Please always keep in mind to backup your wallet.dat , before any procedure.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~, NavDev Team |
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The Droidz address, is that DRZ-OLD or DRZ-V3? Please confirm which one it is. |
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in my opinion the biggest problem we are going to have is trying to prevent the stolen coins being converted to new coins. Theres no doubt about it, the theif will try and swap them, as well as the ones that hes already sold. With this ahead of us im not sure we can ever expect a price higher than a few satoshis without it getting dumped back down again 
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Dear All,
Changelog:
* Name & Logo changed to prevent any future issues and now we are free and safe from any issues in anyway.
* BIP Individualized Update Base.
* Checkpointed
The update is ready and finish being tested.
Github
https://github.com/navcoindev/navcoin
NavCoin Windows Wallet 3.3.0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pd3ma7m0wqdcyom/NavCoin%203.3.0%20Windows%20Wallet.zip
NavCoin Windows Installer (One-Click-Setup)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zhx3p7vra4ac1h/NavCoin%203.3.0.exe
*IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS*
QT WALLET
If you are using the QT wallet , just use click the included BAT file ONLY once , BEFORE running your QT Client/Wallet , this will AUTOMATICALLY create a folder named NavCoin and copy , I repeat only COPY all the files on %APPDATA%NavajoCoin including your wallet.dat to %APPDATA/NavCoin.
Your %APPDATA%NavajoCoin will be untouched and available to you for backup or whichever you want to do with it later on.
NAVCOIN WINDOWS INSTALLER (ONE-CLICK-SETUP)
Same goes for the One-Click-Executable/Setup which will do everything said above automatically. Including uninstalling of the previous version of NavajoCoin Client installed on the System and install the new version.
* Please always keep in mind to backup your wallet.dat , before any procedure.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~, NavDev Team
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I have written a request to C-CEX , if they could perform the burn themselves if its not much trouble.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
PS:
Its still on the C-CEX wallet , same wallet address of C-CEX if I m not mistaken but a 3rd part having access to the wallet.dat. (C-CEX might have a backup of the wallet.dat most of the case , therefore they will be able to do the burn process.)
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We will be sticking with the current chain , DRZ-V3. What was meant by swaps is that swapping the coins of individual users who did not have a chance to swap their OLD-DRZ for the new. There will be a separate system within the wallet itself for them to perform this.
I'm afraid we are already too late to block any addresses by now , let me see how viable it is and feasible the same.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
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Hi All,
Thank you very much for your kind comments and overview.
So I take that the remaining coins from the swap , the same coins allocated for userbase swaps is currently in safe hands with GREEDYJOHN, which is lovely news and gives a sense of security.
The issue at hand is the C-Cex old chain coins being out in the market and that being needed swapped , indeed there will be an excess of OLD-DROIDZ as these coins were already swapped on behalf of C-CEX but ended bu in the market again , I' m sorry I missed this point.
So what I propose are as follows.
1. A complete name change.
2. Re-mine 1.7 million DROIDZ-V3 or equal to cover for the new OLD-DRZ holders from Bittrex. - This is possible.
3. A Hardfork will be required for the same as well as change the Masternode creation amount.
4. I will create an easier way for the individual coin swaps so that people themselves can do it and get their new DRZ coins instantly.
5. We can stick with the current chain without issues , I will run a code analysis on the core code to see if there's anything that we would need to be concerned of & there was the option of another swap lol which create a whole never level of craziness and honestly I do not want the community to go through a stressing period as well as for the exchanges , so we will stick with the current chain if the community agrees to it.
6. A POW mining period of a few blocks will be enabled so that we re-mine the 1.7 million DROIDZ I will let you know how this happens.
A new wallet update can be prepared over the weekend and Swaps starting from Monday.
Looking forward to hearing from you all soon.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
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Dear All,
Thank you very much for your kind words of affection and support , appreciate it very much and means a lot to me hearing that you guys love my work and are part of NAV too.  Thank you.
I'm pleased to present you with a comprehensive report of the entire scenario from my point of view from what I read through the thread and will present you with a few avenues that we can walk through to finally rectify the issues on behalf of the community and what we can actually do to give back life to DRZ.
First of all I would like to state that sadly DRZ is currently in quite a messy situation which you would already know , but I would also like to state that there's hope in getting back up.
Let's talk about what has happened.
1. DRZ was taken over by 3 developers of 1 gave up right from the begining , 2nd one put out an update and went missing and 3rd came a bit more far and seems to be having issues of his own too I believe.
2. Swap process was initiated by the 3rd Developer who took over DRZ and first phase of it was completed , which being the swapping of coins at the exchanges , which was successful where C-Cex and Yobit recieved coins from the new blockchain and client but it was all successful upto a point where C-Cex old DRZ wallet with the coins was directly given to the Dev to be burnt by himself but something has occurred at this point and these coins ended up on Bittrex , where the market was still open for OLD-DRZ and someone dumped the coins and made away with a few bitcoins , anyhow while all this was happening Yobit has Burned the coins themselves and I believe there was an address on the thread to support this.
3. The developer has close to over 1 million coins with him from the new blockchain and client.
4. Developer has not been seen online for the past 2 weeks or so.
5. Currently though I would prefer the markets at C-Cex and Yobit Frozen as there is a possibility of the new coins being dumped as we do not know for a fact who currently have these and poses a risk.
Problems Identified
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1. OLD-DRZ dump on Bittrex
2. New Coins held with the developer
3. Loss of trust in DRZ and its future being questionable
4. Presence of FUD and comments by the original DRZ developer who comes around every once in a while and tries to fail any efforts put into this coin to revive it.
What can we actually do.
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1. The old DRZ dump has already happened and the culprit has run away with BTC , so there are new people holding DRZ and they will need to be swapped to the new ones.
2. The above cannot be currently achieved as the developer holds the balance coins for the swap of user balances of individual holders.
3. Currently there is no excess DRZ-OLD coins in circulation , the circulation is the same , I believe this was a concern of the community and I would like to put it to rest , the number of DRZ coins on OLD and New Chains should match and neither of them should be in excess.
4. There is a certainly a need for a name change and restructuring of the coin.
My Suggestions
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1. Re-name of DRZ and full restructuring of the Coin.
2. OLD-DRZ dump can be resolved with a blockchain rollback but I believe this is quite useless at this point as the culprit has already run away with the bitcoins and people will be at a loss.
3. The NEW-DRZ coins left with the developer needs to be dealt with and the same amount of coins will need to mined again.
4. Let's get to work shall we?
Please correct me if I am wrong and please put your thoughts on the table and discuss the same.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
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BIP Commits on the main branch incoming.
Please keep a weather eye.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
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I'm voting for NAV DEV! He have experience and already rescued a lot of coins including NAV, and not only that,
at one moment nav was very very valuable on bittrex 6k sat l think?!
Yes i agree, i`m supporter of nav and i think nav dev has ability and knowledge to get us back in the game.
I've heard about the situation here at Droidz from a good friend of the community and I'm really sad and extremely sorry to hear about the turn of events here and for the losses everyone endured.
I'm glad and happy to extend any technical expertise or any fix that could put your guys back on track and turn around this situation for the community's sake.
Hold Strong.
Regards,
~SoopY~
tanx soopy ... there are no real hard 'facts' about what has happened - but the fingers all point to some foul play here ... any ideas - or advice mate? ... #crysx
You're welcome , it would be lovely if the community can give me the current status and a brief overview of the turning of events upto now , so that I can suggest and advice what I believe that could be done to keep this coin alive and the community together.
Regards,
~SoopY~ive asked you for your qualified advice soopy - and brought you into a mess unfortunately ... as we have spoken in our chat - there is limited information as to the ACTUAL events - but fingers point to many reasons why - and only a few reasons HOW this all happened ... you have the info that i can muster - and the rest needs to come from the people in the know ... whether publicly here - or in pm ... i dont care which way ... if there is a way of repairing ( or reversing ) this issue - then we are all ears - and as you know my ideas - i think your ideas and advice on what needs to be done would come with more experience in such situations ... a great deal of nay sayers have frequented the thread - which unfortunately includes the original dev who rears his ugly head with negativity and gloat about how much he has ripped the community off in btc ... who knows what part he / she plays in this also - if any ... but what we do need is some expert advice and ideas to divert ( or revert ) this issue ... we have worked together previously - and will have no issue working with you now - as i trust that your advice and knowledge will not be in a negative vein ... i trust you - so do many of the other community members - but we also know how busy you are with all the other projects you have on your plate ... your advice would be enough soopy - and well worth it ... lets do this ... #crysx Yes SoopY can do this without problems, and it would be good to cooperate with NAV!
He is very good developer, Drz could be in safe hands if he agrees to do a takeover ?!
Thanks soopy452000 for offering help. It is what we indeed need, people with with good reputation to help. Meanwhile, I'll try to address few very important question from bumbacoin... questions that seem important
1. there are a bunch of people involved in the coin, is frazazel the particular person who received the wallet.dat and dumped the coins? does he have access to anything else that might be a temptation?
- it seems important to know who it was, and whether other people were involved
As far as I know, there are several people in the Dev team, who could have access to wallet.dat. Surely some of them are just victims of the offender, just like the rest of us. 2. who has information pertaining to the swap process that maybe helpful to get a better overview of what still needs to happen?
- the post c-cex/yobit exchange process still needs to happen
What refers to C-Cex wallet, no post-process possible now. The wallet is compromised, and maximum we can do, is to ban further withdrawals from those addresses (if we update the Drz2 wallets). Communication with Yobit needs to be restored though. 3. who is in communication with yobit?
- it seems that it might be useful for yobit to burn the coins they hold
I tried to contact them, but they seem unresponsive, unlike C-Cex. Is there anyone here who has good connections with Yobit, so can ask them to provide an info on their old wallet.dat? Please step in... 4. who has control over the unswapped DRZv3? how many are there? where are they?
- fairly obvious question
This is probably the most important question. We need Frazazel to tell us. By some reason I believe he is not involved in the offense, and we all need his input. 5. does anyone have a copy of win wallet as the OP link is dead?
I have it, put it here: https://mega.nz/#!f9kSQAwA!8LK6xUOB3ORbGhzk_nFvaUtXKuIKrdyK41ZwFOz-_1MPlease virus-scan it before installing (not to blame me later ). And DO NOT download it from quotations of my message, if any! It runs well, and syncs well as soon as you put the node list from bumbacoin into the Droidz2/droidz.conf. I also have a node on VPS running, and it is in that list. - a new explorer for v3
I can install Iquidus-based one, but of course, CryptoID-based explorer is much preferable. Cryptoid is the best of the best currently existing explorer, though still not perfect (I missed few features while trying to review Drz2 recent activity). EDIT: just noticed CryptoID the post about new explorer. That's great! Any new finds from there, bumbacoin?
I will give my suggestions and a report on what can be done next and a proposal to the community on how to restate order at the blockchain level as well as rectify the current issues.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~ |
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Update has been committed to Github , clients are being tested by the team.
Cheers!
~SoopY~
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I've heard about the situation here at Droidz from a good friend of the community and I'm really sad and extremely sorry to hear about the turn of events here and for the losses everyone endured.
I'm glad and happy to extend any technical expertise or any fix that could put your guys back on track and turn around this situation for the community's sake.
Hold Strong.
Regards,
~SoopY~
tanx soopy ... there are no real hard 'facts' about what has happened - but the fingers all point to some foul play here ... any ideas - or advice mate? ... #crysx
You're welcome , it would be lovely if the community can give me the current status and a brief overview of the turning of events upto now , so that I can suggest and advice what I believe that could be done to keep this coin alive and the community together.
Regards,
~SoopY~ |
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I've heard about the situation here at Droidz from a good friend of the community and I'm really sad and extremely sorry to hear about the turn of events here and for the losses everyone endured.
I'm glad and happy to extend any technical expertise or any fix that could put your guys back on track and turn around this situation for the community's sake.
Hold Strong.
Regards,
~SoopY~
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New update on its way.
Contains important changes including BIP Individualized Classes.
Stay tuned.
Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
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So Richie has written back to me again regards to my inquiries. Hey Soopy,
Sorry, i just got back into town from a long business trip.
So back to the swap. Here's the thing... we normally charge 1.5-4 btc for swaps depending on complexity, how much work we have to do on the back end, and any other nuances. If you keep it super simple for us, i can charge the min. This unfortunately is not negotiable. I have 3 swaps in the queue that have paid and one that has been nagging me to do it for free or donation that i have constantly denied (infact they completely botched it and we have to do work for them now anyhow sigh).
Anyhow, if you could open a ticket with us, or find us on slack (invites at slack.bittrex.com) we can talk through the details.
Thanks,
Richie
Hey Richie, Thank you so very much for getting back to me. I hope your business trip was successful in every step of the way. Its time for a rest I believe hehe. Btw yes , I completely understand your concerns and hassle involved with the traditional swap process , that is why I have committed myself to make it as simple as it can be , if you can remember the swap we did for NAV sometime back , if I can recall it was quite hassle proof and a very simple one where you told me the balance on your wallet at your end and I sent you the coins to the new wallet plus a buffer to cover up any balances before running your scripts and to make sure everything was in balance , finally being a successful swap that was. I believe we can go that path and would be lovely to hear from you what you think about the same. Please do also let me know of anyway I can compensate you for your time and effort that you will have to put into this process. I will certainly open up a ticket if you need me to , to further discuss the matters at bittrex , hehe but I prefer here since I've always spoken to you here. Looking forward to hearing from you with regards to this matter. Warm Regards, ~SoopY~ Ok that sounds straight forward... but please do open a ticket with us... we track everyhting now and BCT is terrible for that. As far as compensation, we will need to collect 1.5 btc... theres nothing I can do about that unfortunately. Thanks, Richie |
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So we have news from Bittrex (Richie) Hey Soopy,
Sorry, i just got back into town from a long business trip.
So back to the swap. Here's the thing... we normally charge 1.5-4 btc for swaps depending on complexity, how much work we have to do on the back end, and any other nuances. If you keep it super simple for us, i can charge the min. This unfortunately is not negotiable. I have 3 swaps in the queue that have paid and one that has been nagging me to do it for free or donation that i have constantly denied (infact they completely botched it and we have to do work for them now anyhow sigh).
Anyhow, if you could open a ticket with us, or find us on slack (invites at slack.bittrex.com) we can talk through the details.
Thanks,
Richie
Going by his response I'm working towards the most convenient solution for exchanges as well as the users themselves. |
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Indeed it has been tested against all odds and proven over and over again. Bitcoin is here to stay.
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Of course Bitcoin will be here and holding strong right now and also in the comming years. Some people just try to make Bitcoin look bad because they are working on other stuff that they like to see shine. All is done in their own benefit, and not in the benefit of the community. We know better.  Indeed mate. Indeed. |
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Bitcoin was made to exclude the need for a central authority or any of that sort not to be centered about a single entity or a person or the opinion of the same , its too big to mass manipulated at this point , thus its going on its own and will live on , this is its sole purpose since its creation , Satoshi saw this thus kept away as he knew Bitcoin will live on without him and he just gave it life and a jump start , he saw that it was never about a person but a system that doesn't involve one to evolve and live on , it was a system about policies and not about individuals , thus Bitcoin itself is committing to that purpose and keeping to it. It will live on , despite how many or how far disputes within the community reach , Bitcoin is unstoppable , so is the bitcoin technology. Humans are still looking for short term gains but there's a huge picture they're missing.
Bitcoin will live on and its principles and policies will control its future not individuals.
~SoopY~
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