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241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LakeBanker | Free Banking for the World on: July 31, 2017, 06:24:48 AM
Due to the fork risk of the Bitcoin network on or after August 1st, LakeBTC may have to suspend deposits and withdrawals of BTC to ensure the security of our users' funds. Given this, we have chosen to postpone Phase 1. of our Token Sale to a time when BTC transfers will certainly be available.

It will now be held September 15, 2017, 3pm UTC - September 20, 2017, 3pm UTC.
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN][ICO] LakeBanker | Free Banking for the World on: July 18, 2017, 09:02:33 AM









Mission

Despite advances in technology the traditional banking sector remains inefficient, expensive and for many impossible to access. Our mission is to make core banking services free, for everyone, forever, and to deliver a full suite of financial services, including access to cryptocurrencies, at a much lower cost.



Concept: Crowd-Banking

The LakeBanker system will coordinate a massive network of individuals, merchants and other institutions who will provide banking services to users. The nodes in our network are called "LakeBankers". A LakeBanker provides services that would ordinarily be undertaken by the high street branch of a traditional bank; for example, they can facilitate deposits/withdrawals from the system and conduct KYC ("Know Your Customer") verifications on other users as part of risk management. Any user can become a LakeBanker; indeed the system encourages users to both consume and supply banking services. The network is accessed through a mobile app from which users can initiate requests for services. The app transmits requests to LakeBankers who are free to accept. A key technological component is our artificial intelligence agent, Sage: Its primary functions are (1) to find optimised matches by estimating the time and cost of a specific service and adjusting fees and incentives dynamically based on real-time supply and demand conditions, and (2) to conduct ongoing risk management based on the live and historical financial data it collects from the app.

Our technological solution effectively replaces traditional banking infrastructure with a peer-to-peer market. We call this concept Crowd-Banking. Our Crowd-Banking model has four important implications in terms of executing our mission.

  • Exceptional Risk Management: Banking is all about risk. Through our crowd of users we can do more due diligence than any regular bank could do. And, since LakeBankers will tend to be local and know their communities well, we can do it better.
  • Massively Reduced Overheads: We don’t need high street branches, large corporate offices or many thousands of salaried employees. Instead, we leverage the potential of existing personnel and infrastructure outside our core organisation
  • Exponential Growth: When we enter a country, one LakeBanker can service say ten users. The system incentivises them to become LakeBankers themselves and service a further hundred users who can then service a further thousand and so on. Our Crowd-Banking model has exponential growth built into it.
  • Reach into Underbanked Populations: Networks of LakeBankers can be created wherever people have access to smartphones. Smartphone saturation is high in the developed world and growing at a phenomenal rate in emerging markets.

In the LakeBanker system, money will flow with little friction, from one individual to another, from one currency to another and from one country to another. Technology has overhauled many industries. We do that now for banking. This is how we bring free banking to the world.



Who we are




We are the team behind cryptocurrency exchange LakeBTC.com. LakeBTC started in 2013. It has 10 million user accounts created from 162 countries. We support 42 currencies and 52 payment methods with hundreds more to come. LakeBTC is probably the only major platform without stolen coins, security scandals or flash crashes. As one of the most valuable brand names in the industry, LakeBTC has been proven to be robust, reliable, and trustworthy. Our CEO is Thomas Xie, co-founder of LakeBTC, cryptocurrency veteran and serial entrepreneur.



Beta Version




Initial versions of the LakeBanker system have been developed and tested. Dozens of currencies and payment methods are supported, and more are coming soon. The demand has been very strong even with no public announcement or media reports. The mobile version of LakeBTC.com functions well and will serve as a base for designing the LakeBanker mobile app Our cashflow is healthy, and there are a number of private equities and financial firms who are interested in investing in traditional ways. Nonetheless, we plan to spin-off the LakeBanker project and launch a Token Sale under an independent entity, LakeBanker Foundation. A new token called banc (BAC) will be issued to participants who contribute BTC, ETH or LTC.



The Token BAC

A new token called banc (BAC) will drive transactions within the LakeBanker system, where all fees and interest will be denominated by BAC. BAC is based on the Ethereum blockchain and is ERC20-compliant. The total number of BAC will be 500,000,000 (500 million), of which 250,000,000 will be offered in the Token Sale, 125,000,000 will be reserved for our User Growth Fund, and the remaining 125,000,000 will be distributed to the team. There is a 5-year vesting schedule for the team tokens, where only 20% is available for trading each year. Our token is well-integrated into our business model and has significant, long-term utility in driving transactions in our system. BAC will be tradable on LakeBTC.com soon after the close of our Token Sale. We offer participants near immediate liquidity for our token.




Our Token Sale is divided into two phases. In Phase 1 we offer a small number of BAC tokens at a significant discount. In return, we hope to get feedback from the community and encourage collaboration with early investors. The remaining tokens are offered in Phase 2. Full details of our Token Sale including information on how to participate are available on our website. Participants can purchase BAC tokens by contributing either ETH, BTC or LTC.


Phase 1

Phase 1 is open now. Contributions made before September 29, 2017, 3pm UTC will get the 1st hour price of 1 ETH = 1300 BAC. This is the best price anyone will ever get. Demand appears to be strong----if we are over sold before that time BAC tokens will be allocated to ALL PARTICIPANTS on a pro rata basis. We do this in the interests of fairness. After September 29, 2017, 3pm UTC tokens will be distributed on a first come first served basis.


Phase 2

Phase 2. will be held in mid/late October. BAC tokens will be tradable on LakeBTC.com soon after the close of Phase 2. We offer participants near immediate liquidity for BAC tokens






A full list of articles about is is available here



Join us on Social Media


                 



Blog Posts

In addition to our formal Whitepaper we are writing a series of blog posts to help the community further understand our project, to address any concerns they may have and to make useful comparisons between LakeBanker and other projects:





We offer a bounty program for Bitcointalk signatures, constructive support here and on Social Media. Full details in their own thread









243  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 21, 2017, 04:31:10 AM


if you use usd as the currency, this system will not affect you in theory, you can choose System Banker option anyway. I have no ideas that why your request was processed by LakeBanker, my sincere apologies to you.




Lakebtc lies on here.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

After waiting nearly a week to withdraw money, I rebought bitcoins (at a loss) and withdrew bitcoin.

They are currently NOT processing fiat withdrawals, the reason the price is so high there is probably because they're about to scam like bitfinex.

STAY AWAY FROM LAKEBTC.

(I didn't learn my lesson, as i hsould have earlier, but unfortunately they were one of the few btc exchanges to deal with my country easily)


Hi,

the time passed and the thing changed, personally I think that you should not blame us for something which happeded a year ago.

Indeed, System Banker is open inside, but this change took place between the end of 2016 and the beginning of 2017.

And honestly, the fees we charge is still relatively cheaper than other exchanges.

We also welcome you to supervise our fee. But for the trade secrets, I can't tell you the exact fee rates and the floats.
244  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: June 21, 2017, 04:12:53 AM
Please lakebtc I don't really understand your fees..

I requested for a withdrawal of 167 euros I was charge 5.8euros.

Please What is the fee structure I mean the percent..

This is particularly for okpay withdrawal..

Or is usd okpay withdrawal much lesser..

Please Let me know...

Tnks

Hi,

The LakeBanker fee is dynamic, it depends on demand and suply, so you the specify fee which you see is a little diferent.

As the 3rd-party payments you mentioned like OKpay Paypal etc, they have a higher credit risk, so the basic rate of 3rd-party payment will be higher.

If your amount is large enough, that we recommend to use bank wire transfer.
245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / LakeBTC plans to run an ICO on: June 20, 2017, 09:33:43 AM
We plan to spin off the LakeBanker project and launch an ICO (initial coin offering) very soon. A new token called banc (symbol BAC) will be issued to participants who contribute BTC and ETH.

Please check https://www.lakebtc.com/p/9347

And for the upcoming ICO, would like get the first taste? please contact help@lakebtc.com
246  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: March 17, 2017, 02:46:24 AM
Please fix the website issues, i am trying to confirm my email for week now. Whenever i use the link the websites goes offline.

hi, please try it again, it may be caused by the issue of the new API launched. if you still have the problem, please let our support know help@lakebtc.com
247  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: March 06, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
We are pleased to announce that a new API version, APIv2, is ready now for all users. Please refer to APIv2 for details. All APIv1 clients are expected to migrate to APIv2 by April 1, 2017. Should you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact customer support.

https://www.lakebtc.com/p/9344
248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Founding Story of LakeBTC on: February 28, 2017, 07:21:43 AM
In January 2017, LakeBTC had an interview with Oriental Daily, the mostly read newspaper in Hong Kong, China.

Quote
Yeah sure. LakeBTC began with bitcoin, and our goal is way beyond cryptocurrencies. Today, LakeBTC stands for Lake Blockchain Technology Company or Lake Banking Technology Company.

LakeBTC was started in early 2013 when bitcoin began to gain traction. Initially it was for professional traders and investors only. As lots of users from all over the world flooded in, we realized it is not just another sophisticated trading platform for wall street pros.

I remember there’s a user, who works in another country as a foreign labor, needs to send money to her children back at home. As you can image, she doesn’t earn much while the banks charge hefty fees on a simple wire transfer. Sadly, ripping off the poor is like a crime legalized by the governments.

Another user is still a student, who works as a part time designer/translator from customers from abroad. This freelance job does not generate lots of cash but it helps pay off his college tuition. Still, the current payment and currency exchange solutions available are either too expensive or troublesome. He’s looking for something simple, reliable, cheap, and free of chargebacks.

And there are many users, excluded by the traditional banking systems, who have some money to save and earn the interest, build the credit history, and get the credit line for their cars, homes, college, and small businesses. All of these stories shocked us and made us to review our original business model of LakeBTC. It’s hard to believe that in the United States, there are over 1/3 of the population that’s unbanked or underbanked. That is more than 100 million Americans! In the world there are billions and billions of people without bank accounts.

Some say banking is a privilege. This is not right. Banking service should be available to everybody, just like clean water and fresh air. LakeBTC does not want to become just a firm serving fund managers, rich individuals and professional speculators. LakeBTC wants to become the one who extends the comprehensive banking and financial services to the billions of unbanked people around the world, at very affordable fees or even free in the long run. We have the technology and business model, which generates profits (not by ripping off the poor, unlike the others).

Money should be able to flow freely, from one person to another, from one country to another, from one currency to another. Financial services industry is being over regulated, in many ways and in many countries. Everybody, especially the poor, is paying too much compliance taxes today. Yes, anti-money laundering and anti-terrorisms, investor protection are important, and financial firms should be regulated. But, there are something that the regulators should and can do. For example, different country, different agencies, lawmakers from the same jurisdiction can utilize modern technology to better and more efficiently do their jobs. In the future if cash is killed and all transactions move to blockchain and platforms like LakeBTC, it’s quite easy to detect and trace down illegal activities.

LakeBTC enforces AML and KYC from day one, and the bitcoin technology itself is public and transparent to everybody. We try to follow all applicable laws and regulations because we believe, staying compliant is to the best interest to all our users.

https://www.lakebtc.com/p/9342
249  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: February 27, 2017, 06:08:03 AM
I really dont understand what the site means by sub account?

Can i buy btc with inr or i need to convert to usd and then buy btc with usd?

Hi,

Sub Account is just the currency which you would like to use. you will can't trade/deposit/withdraw the currency which you never create the Sub Account.

and, External Account is just like a nickname, it used for the deposit/withdrawal of funds, that means you can only transfer/receive from External Account which you added and verified. Simply, which payment method you want to use to deposit or withdraw, then just add its external account and verified it.
250  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: August 16, 2016, 08:54:13 AM
You have to hope some local person wants to send you the withdrawal, and if no one wants to, then lakebtc doubles the fee you pay until it finds someone willing to do it.

Instead of a $25 fee to withdraw $10k I ended up paying around $100 plus the $60 in fees from their bank and my bank.

Absolutely useless service from lakebtc, $160 to make a withdrawal? I don't even use them anymore and I put $200k through them in the last year before this stupid system was made up


sorry for the bad experience

if you use usd as the currency, this system will not affect you in theory, you can choose System Banker option anyway. I have no ideas that why your request was processed by LakeBanker, my sincere apologies to you.

in my proposal, or you may apply to become a LakeBanker, if you happen to have encountered the user submit a withdrawal request when you need to deposit, and then you can accept the request. but for bank wire, such opportunity is relatively rare. if you can handle other payment methods, you may do LaekBanker as your second job.

apologize again for your bad experience


No, that is a lie. I have emailed support to ask if I can use system banker and been told no.

I only deal in USD so it isn't a matter of currency, before you tell another lie to explain your inferior service.


Hi, I have no idea that why you say it is a lie, and don't know the detail how the support to reply you, but indeed, you can use SystemBanker

And sure, if your volume of deposit/withdraw is not too large, the system will transfer the request to others, but we will subsidize the cost which incurred due to this to you

Anyway, as a user who user Bank Wire transfer USD, you will not be affected too much by LakeBankers
251  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 中文版现在不行啊,没人讨论了,到处都是刷等级的刷子,好多老早的 on: August 11, 2016, 09:40:46 AM
你好 我在这
谢谢你的持续关注

另外 LakeBTC在Egopay问题上没有受到损失 https://www.lakebtc.com/p/7334
252  Economy / Exchanges / Re: lakeBTC on: August 11, 2016, 08:41:23 AM
https://www.lakebtc.com

any one tried this ?

please type your experience

hello there,

if you want to try LakeBTC, please refer this https://www.lakebtc.com/s/buy-bitcoins
253  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: August 11, 2016, 08:36:10 AM
is SEK back?
how can I trade BTC to SEK now??

seems you can not, it have been no orders more than one year,

unless you play the role of matket maker, or I suggest you choose another exchange better.

 Sad

if i can trande by myself, why should I need go exchange?

Hi, the SEK exclusive agent is on strike, we are looking for the new at local, please note that announcement on official website. Before that, you may look for other exchanges with SEK, or deposit through SEPA to trade EUR.

Thanks much for your attention
254  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: August 11, 2016, 08:28:31 AM
WARNING ALL GBP USERS OF MY HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH LAKEBTC

I have emailed them 9 times! over the past weeks and each request has been replied to with a link to the FAQ.

To be honest, I feel like the site is a scam now because it has huge lag times + page constantly freezes + support seems automated and there is no way to deposit.

Have tried many many (many) times to deposit GBP by multiple methods (GBP Uk transfer, pingit ...) but none have worked. I have tried different amounts but that has not worked either.

Furthermore, they listed their volume on BittyBot as almost 3500 BTC for (BTCGBP) daily which seems really unlikely if you analyse the site.

Moreover, I do not think they have a single LakeBanker for GBP which further shows that it is unlikely their volume is so high.

I think BittyBot is realising that there are some discrepancies as they delisted LakeBTC for 2 days and now it is relisted with a volume closer to 500 BTC daily.

2/6/16

BEWARE  My connection between lakebtc and myself is no longer private + site keeps crashing

Site can no longer be reached


I expressed regret with your terrible experience.

Honestly, our LakeBanker for GBP is not much currently, and some of them are busy working, so that they are not active on LakeBanker

The suggestion is that may you try Bank Wire to deposit, and please note that LakeBankers tend to work with users with some reputation and track records for local payment methods or like PayPal and Payza etc 3rd-patries methods. For users w/o much track record, you may want to use other payment methods and/or do some more trading first to gain some reputation.

255  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: August 11, 2016, 08:10:39 AM
lakebtc used to be great, but now their lakebanker system is mandatory....last withdrawal I paid over $100 + lakebtc charge due to their stupid lakebanker system. Never again.

Why fix what isn't broken? I used to get their withdrawals the next day with no fees except their withdrawal fee.

Dear User,

LakeBanker is not a mandatory measure, it is to develop the local market of more currencies, and the fee is paid to the LakeBanker for his service. You may know that in certain countries/regions, if people purchase bitcoins directly in their local market, they may cost more.

If you are using the main currency and choose bank transfer, LakeBanker system has no effect on you. Just you need to select System Banker Only option when you deposit or withdraw. then it will be the same as the thing you experienced before.

And more, if you are willing to help other people around the world use bitcoins, or you are interested in small profits but quick turnover, you can become a LakeBanker too. Please e-mail us with your intention help@lakebtc.com

Best regards



I have no option to select only system banker

what banks are they using?

You have to hope some local person wants to send you the withdrawal, and if no one wants to, then lakebtc doubles the fee you pay until it finds someone willing to do it.

Instead of a $25 fee to withdraw $10k I ended up paying around $100 plus the $60 in fees from their bank and my bank.

Absolutely useless service from lakebtc, $160 to make a withdrawal? I don't even use them anymore and I put $200k through them in the last year before this stupid system was made up


sorry for the bad experience

if you use usd as the currency, this system will not affect you in theory, you can choose System Banker option anyway. I have no ideas that why your request was processed by LakeBanker, my sincere apologies to you.

in my proposal, or you may apply to become a LakeBanker, if you happen to have encountered the user submit a withdrawal request when you need to deposit, and then you can accept the request. but for bank wire, such opportunity is relatively rare. if you can handle other payment methods, you may do LaekBanker as your second job.

apologize again for your bad experience


256  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: where do you trading btc/usd now? after bitfinex... on: August 11, 2016, 07:26:17 AM
after bitfinex down/hacked/stolen, not sure whether it is also an inside job, but I am frightened

when I see the volume of btc/usd, https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

LakeBTC, CoinBase(GDAX), and Bitstamp are the biggest three, Bitstamp I have known much, they were also down/hacked/stolen last year, and also lost tens of thousands of Bitcoin from customers; LakeBTC I have also known much, their withdrawal are not very good in fee and speed, although the deposit is free and fast.

so could anyone introduce a better exchange to do btc/usd trading? or share you experience on LakeBTC, CoinBase, and Bitstamp.

any experience will be grtaeful, thanx firstly

Thanks for the attention, but LakeBTC is the only one exchange which has not been stolen/hacked, we take security seriously with user' funds, every withdrawal request will be separately audited by two staff on LakeBTC, including BTC withdrawal.
257  Economy / Trading Discussion / BTC/CAD, BTC/SGD, BTC/CHF trading are available at LakeBTC on: August 11, 2016, 06:42:58 AM
Hi guys,

Long time no login the forum, and m here maybe a good news to you, we have found a number of market makers and cooperate with them, BTC/CAD, BTC/SGD, BTC/CHF, these trading are available now.

Deposits and withdrawals are recommended to use the Bank Wire transfer, since other payment methods have few LakeBankers are willing to accept. But the really exciting point is the strong scalability, if anyone would like to be a market maker who earn their profits from the BTC spread between major currency like USD and local currency like SGD prices, LakeBanker will be very suitable for him.

In any words, these three trading have been released, please enjoy Wink

BTC/CAD https://www.lakebtc.com/trader?symbol=btccad
BTC/SGD https://www.lakebtc.com/trader?symbol=btcsgd
BTC/CHF https://www.lakebtc.com/trader?symbol=btcchf

258  Economy / Exchanges / Re: How to ripple USD to Lakebtc? is rippletrade going to die? on: March 29, 2016, 08:32:14 AM
Dear User,

Ripple is not going to die, but the rippletrade https://www.rippletrade.com, they will stop the service in 1st April. During these time, Ripple has so much problems, so Ripple is not the recommended way.

And you can refer to here https://www.lakebtc.com/s/help#ripple, for more questions please email us help@lakebtc.com

Best Regards
259  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: March 29, 2016, 08:20:35 AM
lakebtc used to be great, but now their lakebanker system is mandatory....last withdrawal I paid over $100 + lakebtc charge due to their stupid lakebanker system. Never again.

Why fix what isn't broken? I used to get their withdrawals the next day with no fees except their withdrawal fee.

Dear User,

LakeBanker is not a mandatory measure, it is to develop the local market of more currencies, and the fee is paid to the LakeBanker for his service. You may know that in certain countries/regions, if people purchase bitcoins directly in their local market, they may cost more.

If you are using the main currency and choose bank transfer, LakeBanker system has no effect on you. Just you need to select System Banker Only option when you deposit or withdraw. then it will be the same as the thing you experienced before.

And more, if you are willing to help other people around the world use bitcoins, or you are interested in small profits but quick turnover, you can become a LakeBanker too. Please e-mail us with your intention help@lakebtc.com

Best regards
260  Economy / Exchanges / LakeBTC OTC Trading is Live Now! on: January 25, 2016, 10:14:48 AM
Unlike the exchange trading feature we have been running for the past 3 years, OTC enables users to trade with each other directly using any currency and payment method convenient to both the buyer and the seller. It is especially appealing to users who trade in large volumes and/or use less popular currencies. Our goal is to make bitcoins more accessible to all users around the globe, regardless of where they live, what currencies they use, and how much money they have.

LakeBTC's product and development teams spend an enormouse amount time to streamline the OTC trading processes. Users will spend less time on negotiating the deal details such as payment methods, payment instructions. Just register all available External Accounts once, and they will be available for all OTC buy and OTC sell trades thereafter. Both average users and professional coin dealers will find it a lot easier to trade OTC at LakeBTC.


https://www.lakebtc.com/p/9325








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