So you're one of those people who read in the news that a pitbull attacked a child and thinks "ban all pitbulls". What if we put a smart chip in a pitbull's head that would make it unable to attack in a public place and unable to bite children? Sounds great in theory, if you're unable to see the big picture, which is a spoilt brat kicking the dog every day, until it finally bites. Now all the spoilt brats can unload their frustration at home by beating up pitbulls, and it doesn't change anything for all those other children bitten by rottweilers, german shepherds, and all the other dogs around the world, every single day.
Your idea will never work and you were told earlier in the thread why that is, but your understanding of the society is extremely naive. Like that part when you said that people will get an offer to exchange their old guns for smart guns for free and they'll all do it.

Do you think you could stick to the topic? Sorry but you know about as much about economics as you do about firearms, that is to say absolutely nothing. Your ideas are not new or revolutionary, they are half backed horse shit that would be an absolute disaster if it were ever attempted.

And what if he uses a pencil? Are you going to ban pencils?

And who is going to decide who that innocent person is? You block guns from being able to fire without a green light from the authorities and you're giving your life in their hands.
Really, who is going to be innocent? A child? What about a child trained to kill by ISIS, holding a grenade? There's no way for your idea to work.
As for your universal basic income proposal it begins with someone buying shares, so that someone has to invest first. Poor people who can't afford it will be excluded. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of UBI?

You are delusional and your ideas are neither new nor fully formed. Your plan is garbage no matter how much you want it to be effective.

This is the second time you've used this statement,   You are wrong, just flat out wrong. 

You're thinking you can interchange the words 'gun owner' and 'criminal' anytime you want. Thats literally what your statement does.

At this point, its obvious you know very little about guns, gun safety, common sense and society as a whole.  You have an amazing naivety to the situation you want to correct.

So do I..
Their needs to be more protection for the "shall not be infringed" part because all of the short barreled, fully automatic, armor piercing, silencers, etc. stuff that is illegal now without a NFA tax stamp is bullshit..
Basically all of the NFA act is bullshit..

Everyone should be able to have full autos with silencers without question IMO..

Not for a single second.. No..

Another thing, even if you did make these guns with these electronic disablers, how do you figure you are going to keep even your average hobbyist gunsmith from removing these features?
You have a design idea drawn up? Lets see it..
Do you even know how firearms work?

Adding any sort of unnecessary mechanism that may impede a gun from firing can only reduce its reliability and therefore is stupid..

Not to mention added weight and bulk..
Glue a cell phone to some gun with some respectable recoil and see how many rounds it survives just from recoil.. 

And you want the "authorities" to just be able to turn everyone guns off? Hell no..  


I would also contend that all of the gun deaths that occur are worth the right to bear arms, and I would be on the side of committing many many many more lives than that if it was what's needed to ensure it's continuation..

War for oil? Neh...
War for freedom? Absolutely..

Legal guns not firing in public just means criminals using illegal guns don't have to worry about a gun-wielding public. I believe there were already several incidents in the US where people shot down mass shooters. Imagine if you actually have to wait for the police to come.

Sure you can make it so that in the event that a mass shooting happens all the other guns unlock but there will be a delay between the center receiving information that one is indeed happening and them being able to deactivate the block.

Not to mention they'd probably spend even more time "confirming" the incident before being forced to unlock guns coz "Guns Bad!".


Wait they don't follow the law? I'm shookt!

So recreational shooters are now punished for the actions of criminals?  No thanks.

Everyone will then just make their own rounds.  We do it now.  It's called reloading.

And still will not stop criminals.  Why buy $1000 billets when they can just steal them.


I think the real flaw in your thought process is believing guns are the problem.   It's the criminal who uses it unlawfully.  
What if we just make homicide illegal, wouldn't that stop the criminals?

"Gun violence" is just violence, regardless of the weapon used.

Run some numbers.... 383,000,000 guns are owned in the US.  How many of them are used criminally each year.

I think the biggest thing you're overlooking is mindset.  

The criminals don't care what they laws are, so you'll never get their guns.  And if by some chance you do, they just find another weapon they can control. Homemade guns or knives.

Now the mindset of the lawful gun owner.  We believe we have a right to defend ourselves.  What I own to do that is none of the government's business. I'm not going to give up control of my life, and life-saving decision making, to the government.

 Then you have enforcement issues. Guns tend to be a problem more so where there's a concentration of criminals. Ie: big cities.  Out in the suburbs, we have no issues with guns.  Likewise, law enforcement follows the same concept.  City cops think no one should have a gun but them. Suburban cops can often depend on legal gun owners for assistance.

   I'm a suburban cop. I have sworn to uphold the Constitution.  I will not take guns away from my citizens. And I will not surrender my personal collection of guns.

  Your process will turn 100million lawful citizens into "criminals."

I never said they had guns. Armed includes any weapon capable of serious bodily injury or death.  Knives, bricks, hammers, rocks.

Now let's say they do have guns. Are they your new guns? Or are they old guns, homemade guns, guns that were were not turned in?

Part two of impossible:   Let's say this gun plan had a snow balls chance.  How do you implement it?  How do you get the 393 million current guns out of the public's hands?  Many of these current guns are not on any 'registry' or ownership list. Some states do not require any FFL involvement in transferring of long guns. Some guns have been passed down from family, which also requires no FFL. Some guns have been possessed since prior to any transfer laws. Some guns are manufactured without a serial number (still perfectly legal today), or have been in existence since prior to serial number requirements.

Ok, change the location.  I'm in the grocery store, 3 armed bandits come in to rob the place and the customers. You just forced me to concede to being another victim as my only choice.

So 3 gangsters break into your home at 3am wielding swords, bats and hammers. They start attacking your family, your children.  You get your firearm to defend your family....... and, nothing...

You have to call the government for authorization to kill the people attacking your kids. You make a call to some call center, which is answered by some lady who reads thru a question and answer checklist. 4-5 minutes later, you authorization to unlock the gun is approved.

Now, you exit your hiding spot with a working firearms, to find your family dead and the intruders are gone.



Yeah, great idea