oh like this sort of info?
like where I got it say here?

http://vertcoin.org/downloads/CudaminerWin64.zip

so you can tell me I got the wrong one and I should not trust the one from the actual vertcoin official site, instead I have to go get some other miner that is not even associated with the developers? maybe you can direct me to one with a keylogger too while you are at it huh?

yeah prices fall and rise, this attracts speculators that drive the price up and as a result brings more miners and more people using the coin. so dont worry about any coin's rise of fall. the developers that stand behind a coin and keep it solid is what makes a coin valuable. And even if I do not participate in this one, I will keep my eye on this encryption for it to smooth out after the developers work out the kinks. Just kinda early here and really pissed me off that I lost a ton of data thanks to that damn crash.

I got the cudaminer from the vert web page a couple hours ago. so try not to be so smug

yeah that tells me I need to just stay away from this one. Good luck with it but obviously those of us with not as much experience are not going to be able to participate, and that means I will never buy or accept the coins for any of my products. sorry but I need to know it all works for me or I am not in.

cuda miner has something wrong with it. I can mine with other cuda miners just fine, but this one totally locked up my system and crashed it

that is a lot of premine but lets see how much transparency there is to what they do with it. if they hold it and give to people for work, and not dump it when it hits an exchange we will be ok,

since the real question is if it will be dumped as soon as it hits a market ruining the coin for the short term for the first miners,

thing is if you do not mine coins and dump them right away, (pump and dump) then I think it will be ok for those who hold out for the market to stablize for a good coin. the fact that there are only 66 coins following the suit of 42 I guess is going to make them the second in the chain of new limited edition coins, so it will probably do as well as lite coin did compared to bitcoin, so do not expect 1000 bitcoin for a 66, like 42, but maybe 100 as a spike sounds possible. then dropping to about 20 to 50 btc per coin in value in a year or so.

it looks like they have an "official" thread on the forums and they have all but abandoned this thread now. Probably need to head over there if you have something to say that you want them to actually see lol

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425754.20 is the URL from their official site's "community" link, so they have not set up their own forums still.


also though I do notice they did not mention the amount of premine they did on the coin over there, is that normal? or do most coins continue to let you know what their premine was before and after they make an official thread and their announcement thread?

so is this coin dead or do the DEV only reply on weekends? (*or are they only responding on some other site ??)

I have to say, being a merchant that is doing business for coin, noble has my attention, and as soon as I can get my site adjusted for it, I will be accepting noble, there, the ability for people to send me a message with their coin, so I know who it came from or for what, makes it possible for me to wake up, see coin, and get them their items,

Additionally having done business for so long I have gotten pretty good at reading people online to know if they are trustworthy or not, and the dev have only done things that are on my list of "you can trust this person" signs, some of them are pretty big ones too, so I am confident my coin I work for will be solid.

so having said all that I would say you definitely should add noble to your site.

Thank you.
Sincerely and most appreciatively,
The Architect.
www.borgsteamfactory.com

and so begins the need to mop up after another smear on a great scientists name

I really hope he is not responding because he got frustrated and went to bed, and will come back tomorrow and at least try to salvage some of what people have invested into his attempt here. at least a damn apology if he can not give other alt coins to them, since the tesla coins from his block chain may well be entirely useless at this point.

yeah I think the dev team made the mistake of confusing instant success or guaranteed success with guaranteed exposure,

The problem with guaranteed exposure is that if you are going to fail, now EVERYONE is going to know you FAILED, just like if you have something totally AWESOME that EVERYONE will know it is awesome.

the fans are not going to come and save you because you used Tesla's name, UNLESS you DESERVE IT

instead if you DON'T they will instead of saving you, will crucify you lol.


if you look back to page 2 of these thread you will see this:


in this case they offered to criticize you for mistakes they felt you made, and/or leave in a hurry, if things looked bad, taking their friends with them

posting addresses at this point I think is useless unless we can get some feed back from people that the dev have gone out of their way to help them, I can say for Noble coins, Rofo has infact helped those of us that lost coin to a problem on a pool by reimbursting us for lost coin, and quite well, additionally one of us with more hash power, that got a bigger hand out, and forgot to mention another friend that was there on the failed mining pool, gave said friend coin out of his wallet instead of even bringing it up later after the fact to Rofo. and he has refused to be named too, as he does not want any coin for helping, as he said he forgot the guy when talking with Rofo, so it is his responsibility to help him,


so in that I think we need some info on whether or not the dev have helped any of you. Please if they have sound off so the rest of us know what is going on, and let us know if these guys are more stand up than people are claiming they are not.

Edit two, seems that the original page I mentioned here was owned by another developer that was going to do a tesla coin release but he dragged his feet to long tweeking to perfection his dev of his same named coin, and due to the release of this coin gave up and deleted his facebook page.

----unedited portion----

I guess the temporal reserve is not to bad a deal even though it is not crypto, it is digitally backed up with out giving up ones anonymity and their system is all but unhackable with some sort of system where the computers are able to talk to each other via webcams and screens so the peoples data is not online at all. only cords going to the computer storing the data base is the monitor cord and the power cord lol.

Pass the butter I need more for my popcorn lol   

we now return you to "days of our coin"

Your welcome, they have some big plans for that little number, like a solar coating to make them into solar cells, that you can fold up and stick in your wallet, and coins that are battery ultracapacitors that can be stuffed in things like cell phones and used as the battery, lol the lot backing it are a group of scientists that are going to fund research around the glob with the funds it raises

dmgta if you love Tesla that much maybe you would like this

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tesla-bill/x/1065580



https://www.facebook.com/temporalreserve

lol

perhaps the best way to ensure the people doing a Tesla coin are true to his memory, would be to do a build off contest for constructing a coil from scratch and the community vote on the best video showing dedication, skill, success, and understanding of the concepts lol XD


***edit***
just to be clear for the purposes of understanding my comment both for humor and seriousness I am talking about the coil now referred to as a Tesla coil, after the man who invented it and developed it, as well as inventing the AC current use that is required to even make the device operate

Though I should say, it would be seriously cool to his memory if all the developers of a tesla coin, came together and decided to work together on this coin and make it great!

as the title implies I have a business where in I manufacture things like goggles and the like (not going to post any links to my site or anything so as not to violate any rules here, but hopefully posting a link to a photo will be ok)

since we want to try and make the use of the coin, possible, I am looking for tips on the buying end too, for getting supplies for my trade (the goggles I make are made from solid metal sheet of various metals and nuts and screws, so finding someone willing to take alt coins for these supplies would be paramount, to avoid having to cash out my coins for a fiat currency) any help would be appreciated both in processes to keep payments safe going out and keeping them sorted on incoming since there does not seem to be much info there when you get a coin payment, to know who it came from. (since I manufacture a real world good that has to be sent to the person, the anonaminity is not really possible to that level here, however I am open to methods that continue to protect one's privacy here too.

ok just so people do not think I am talking BS here, here is a pic of a pair of the goggles I make.

(sorry these are not in spoilers to keep it clean, if anyone can direct me to how that is done I will hide them so those coming can avoid having to load them just to read replys)














one last pair that is a more basic pair



Please no inquires as to purchasing or anything, I am putting any of that on hold to work these details out as this is a hobby business I would like to turn to support the structure of the crypto currency market, by buying resource to build and then selling product with and for crypto currency, obviously things like shipping require pulling some out but we can maybe become a little less dependent on the system that strangles us each day little by little I think.

ps I am in the USA in green country Oklahoma if location is relevant to how to do safer business.