I hear this all the time, what a waste POW is. Its not a waste when compared to physical security requirements. For the price of one rent-a-cops salary I could run 30 miners.
No, it is a waste. Bitcoin mining is the single biggest waste of electricity in the world. But its not wasted, what is so difficult to understand, it powers the network. This is not using power for the sake of using power. Idling my car because I'm too lazy to turn the key off is a waste. Do we get something for all this electricity use? Yes we get bitcoin. If there was zero benefit then it is a waste. I think what you are really saying is "buy my POS coin I'm heavily invested in". |
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I hear this all the time, and today on the radio. Legalization will lead to increased use. Well it does not. Countries where it is legal have a lower use rate.
BTW I'm in Vancouver, Canada, pot central. It is literally next door and across the street and pretty much anywhere else I could look. We don't have stringent employer drug testing, open smoking everywhere, no one cares and most people aren't users. I don't use and no one in my social or professional circle does either.
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My question is why is network security considered a waste of hash power? This is like saying oxygen is wasted because we primarily use it for breathing.
Because power can be used for something else while still having network security. Well this can be said about anything, security guards at a bank could have a desk and process loan applications... Is it necessary and does it detract from the primary function? Market says its not important at the moment. I hear this all the time, what a waste POW is. Its not a waste when compared to physical security requirements. For the price of one rent-a-cops salary I could run 30 miners. |
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I mined xpm when claymores miner first came out, but it requires a pretty beefy cpu otherwise the gpus wouldnt load. I upgrades my semprons to 6 core fx's and mined their cost back, about then xpm difficulty rose too much so i dumped the fx's and went back to semprons.
My question is why is network security considered a waste of hash power? This is like saying oxygen is wasted because we primarily use it for breathing.
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Thats silly. spend all that money to raid someone just for an alleged plant?
u make it sound so innocuous. but it causes schizophrenia in some people That'd have to be a pretty major study to prove it. You'd have to collect at least a thousand people people in various age, geographical, and ethnic groups, then have one group smoking and one group not, with regular, frequent drug testing. At the start and end, you'd have to then give everyone a psych exam -- this'd help remove any problems with selection bias, I'd guess. Given how many schizophrenics are undiagnosed, I'd be more willing to bet the possible temporary paranoia of smoking exacerbates the person's eccentricities enough to lead to hospitalization which then leads to a schizophrenia diagnosis. If they put you in the psych ward to start out with in a hospital, that being on your record might influence whether or not a borderline's diagnosed, too. It does cause schizorphrenia in some people with prolonged use. i quit smoking marijuana because i would hear evil voices. they would tell me disturbing shit too. i'll never smoke that shit again, it was fucking up my brain. i can remember that i was barely cognitive when i stopped smoking marijuana, and suffered acute social anxiety. a few years later i feel fine now. maybe a bit nervous. no more voices, no more nasty lung infections. you watch though, they'll legalize this shit and the country will be filled with zombie ass morons who are barely cognitive. It already is, where have you been?? |
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 Parked for winter. |
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FYI you guys should ask Atlas to setup his own cloak address for donations. The drk audit was proportional to the donations received.
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Actually decreasing thread concurrency is more likely to cause HW rather than solve them.
The thread concurrency setting does not do what you think it does. A better name would be "size of the concurrent thread scrypt scratchpad buffer".
I strongly suggest to keep the thread concurrency parameter as high as possible: 2x the total shader count worked for me. Lower numbers increase the chance threads smash each other. At thread concurrency == shader count the risk of hardware errors is close to 100%.
7970 has 32 clusters. This means it will keep in flight 32*256=8192 threads at the same "tick".
You didn't read my post, i said "if it complains about ram trying decreasing the thread concurrency by 1000 at a time." If it complains, the thread concurrency is too large for the gpu ram. I can't tell him the exact concurrency to use because I have no experience with a 7850. I can tell him I run 6400 for my 6950, 24000 for my 280xs and 32765 for my 290s, but this doesn't help him. I suggested 16384 for him because i found this number online, it is many times larger than the shader count. You are just confusing him. 2x the shader count for a 290 is only 5120, ridiculously low, even with 2 threads. To the op, if you double the gpu threads you halve the concurrency. example, gpu thread = 1 thread-concurrency=16000 gpu thread = 2 thread-concurrency=8192 |
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My good friend paid 400k for a cookie cutter disposable condo in the vancouver lower mainland area. As long as interest rates never rise ever he should be fine.  |
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You should get no hardware errors when setup properly. make a file called scrypt.conf in the same folder and put this in it, make sure you set your pool info. {
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.pool.url:port",
"user" : "user.worker1",
"pass" : "x"
}
]
,
"intensity" : "20",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "scrypt",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "16384",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-fan" : "0-100",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-target" : "80",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "28",
"failover-only" : true,
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "7",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"
}
then from the cmd prompt run sgminer -c scrypt.conf
it should mine fine then, if there's no typos, if it complains about ram trying decreasing the thread concurrency by 1000 at a time. I originally mined btc with gpus, it was easy to setup cgminer, when i switched to scrypt it took me 2 weeks screwing with things until i figure it out, now its simple. x11 is more forgiving. |
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Wolf0, you could set your kernels mining with some constant percent for you. This would guarantee you profit from those who are using your work. Just an idea...
I've said it before, they get reverse engineered. Not to mention - it'd actually harm the community. If I increase hashrate 30%, diff goes up 30% in under a day. You make the same amount, except you're now paying me a fee - so you're making less. Not if u rent out the rig (30% - fee) Wouldn't rig renting be just as impacted? When you make hashrate effectively cheaper, then people sell it for less. I think u see it to big, just check some renting rigs and check the hashrates of 7950/280x/290x..a lot don't even get high hashrates. It doesn't mean that every miner will know ur +30% minersoftware if u spread it. Not all miners are reading this topic/site. I am not saying u should just spread ur software. The last time there was a major speed increase for x11 it took miners 2 days to notice and rental prices to increased accordingly. |
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lol they are all sucking the hackers dick on the thread lol, with Monero there is not even an exploit and we say fuck you to the "attacker"  How did that bogus block injection hack work out a month ago? Don't lie about things. Transaction fee is still 0.1xmr. lul my point is that no one bow down to the hacker hahaha If they could destroy Monero they would already have. We like the fee being 0.1xmr thank you so much. lies...more lies... |
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lol they are all sucking the hackers dick on the thread lol, with Monero there is not even an exploit and we say fuck you to the "attacker" How did that bogus block injection hack work out a month ago? Don't lie about things. Transaction fee is still 0.1xmr. |
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monero local hash i get about 21 kh/s, on moneropool.com i get maybe 16 average.. claymores dev fee fucks up the calculation a lot, when it returns to my pool im hashing old work, bypassing the fee helps a bit. 24.18 XMR per day at an exchange rate of approx 0.07 BTC or 23.68 USD per day.
Im burning 200 kwh a day, thats a lot of power 22 dollars*1.12 tax = 24.64 - net loss That's almost 700 dollars a month out of my pocket if i kept all the coins. I hit 900/month running scrypt I have real time power metering with my utility, maybe you don't and the averages have been in your favour. |
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Thats silly. spend all that money to raid someone just for an alleged plant?
u make it sound so innocuous. but it causes schizophrenia in some people and tylenol kills thousands of people a year, and peanuts, and shellfish ban seafood for the childrens!! |
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the plane is parallel to the lines, take the cross product of the lines, this is the normal of the plane, crossproduct can be in either direction, +/- a(x-x0) + b(y-y0) +c(z-z0) = d Plug in the normal (a,b,c) and a point on the plane, simplify. http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/EqnsOfPlanes.aspx[edit] line vectors l1 (1, -3, 1) l2 (-1, 1, 2) the equations given are parametric forms of lines l1xl2 = n = (a,b,c) |
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