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241  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Bitcoin Meetup Athens #3 on: September 19, 2014, 08:01:06 PM
Υπάρχει και αυτό.
Δεν ξέρω βέβαια τι είναι.. αλλά για bitcoin meetup στην Αθήνα λέει  Smiley


EDIT : Μάλλον σχετίζεται.. δύο έχουν γίνει εκεί στο hacker space.
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 19, 2014, 12:46:56 PM

Qora says he has a killer feature that will make Qora unique.


Could you give me the link, thank you.


You're gonna have to trust me, it's somewhere in the chat logs. Someone else might be able to link it. He basically said if he does the wallet like he wants to it will be unique. So far that's a mystery what he is talking about.

I can confirm that, qora said this exactly once at qora chat.
243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 16, 2014, 11:30:09 PM
Anyone who has been talking to Qora over the last few weeks have any idea what he might be thinking for a new direction in organisation?

Here you are : http://coinia.net/qora/chat/logs/2014/08/28.html
244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE] New ERA - 100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon - TOR - DICE on: September 15, 2014, 10:08:01 PM
@Eurbids

What makes this coin special. Is ur VOIP integration something "special"?

This coin has made it's own history so far.
It was abandoned by the first developer and Eurbids along with some other members have take over this coin.
It has been raised and this is definitely something that it is not happening often in cryptos !!!!
After that, everything else is a miracle driven by the believers that they are hooked in here.
I am watching this from the day one and I have to admit that the community in here it might be the strongest community i've seen so far comparing with many many alt coins !!!!

Well done Eurbids, well done KORE people !!!!

245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 15, 2014, 09:06:56 PM
Is it documented what the price of issuing a Qora asset is?


As far as I know the price will be the standard fee of 1 Qora.The only limitation is that the total value of the asset won't be greater of the total supply.
246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 15, 2014, 08:53:02 PM
I would like to mention something that I have noticed on Qora and it's development.

It turns out that Qora is not a simple digital currency with some features.
In my opinion right now we are facing the implementation of some great facts and principals of the real life into this digital currency.
I have noticed the below two real life principals integrated into Qora.

1. Decentralized Voting = Direct Democracy

The decentralized voting feature is actually a voting feature where all the Qora holders are able to vote.
Read a few from the above wiki link to understand what Direct Democracy is and correct me if I am wrong on this, but I think this is exactly what has been integrated into Qora.

2. Asset / Asset Exchange = Barter Exchange System

Asset / Asset exchange feature of Qora (the first into cryptocurrencies) is a real life exchange system where assets are trading directly for other assets without the need of money to made the transaction.

So, in my opinion the above principals it might be the most valuable principals in order to establish a healthy society.

COOL !!!!!!

Grin  Grin  Grin
247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 05, 2014, 11:11:18 PM
Is the Qora AE going to be tested on testnet prior to release?

Testing is needed for regular devs . We have a genius Wink


All jokes aside, I think that is what the dev is doing, ironing out any bugs before we go live.

Yes, this is true
248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthSend, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: September 02, 2014, 11:14:07 PM
I've seen nonsense weak FUD lately from newbies.
where ya'll came from? This mean StealthCoin being spreads like wild fires right now
get in now or you will paying more later.

This is exactly what is happening right now !!!
An attemp to buy cheap from a pump and dump group in order to get the most of it's coin...
So.. if you think of this a little deeper you will see that the next big pump would be on XST !!!!
249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [TCO] TileCoin | Decentralized Bill Payments App | ĐApp | NEW CODE on: September 02, 2014, 10:57:08 PM
ASIC-8Tile it's nice to see you in action.
The whole project here looks great!I will definitely watch this out !!
250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: September 02, 2014, 11:04:27 AM
This is a very interesting implementation.
251  Local / Mining Discussion (Ελληνικά) / Re: [Info] Mining hardware συζητήσεις, απορίες, φώτογραφίες on: August 31, 2014, 11:38:51 PM
Φαίνεται αρκετά καλή επιλογή πάντως (χωρίς να ξέρω πολλά απο mining, αυτό μου γυάλισε Smiley ).
252  Economy / Speculation / Re: You'd better sell when APPLE competes with bitcoin.. on: August 31, 2014, 09:57:38 PM
I am not afraid of Apple, I am afraid of the people that using their products !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcIa_lGCZg
253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOS] Nostrum - New Source Code - Reserve Value - NosStore NosJob NosBet on: August 29, 2014, 12:33:07 AM
Seems innovative !

I got some questions listed below :
Which is the total coin supply ?
Is it POS only with 100% of the coin supply generated on a genesis block (similar to nxt) or new coins are generated each block (similar to Peercoin) ?
Is there an interest rate for the POS ? If yes then which is the interest rates exactly ? Are they known ?
Is the a transaction fee ?
One last question regarding the services that seems to be on top of Nostrum.Are there gonna be fees ? If yes, those fees will be distributed to
forgers as interest rate ?

Thanks
254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GUE]GuerillaCoin - **NEW ANDROID APP SCREENSHOTS** - Dynamic Interest on: August 21, 2014, 06:05:00 PM

It seems there is a relationship between black and guerilla, right ?
Or it was just a typo ?

Or nothing at all...I don't know but I would like to know if there is something about Guerilla.
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PseudoCash][PSEUD][PseudoIP coming][RARE 2.2 mil coins][Anon currency] on: August 20, 2014, 04:48:35 PM
So,  he who holds Pseudo will be able to keep the pseudo coins and with a proof he will join the IPO? (something like aethereun - ethereum clone).
If this is the plan then I am in.
Check for aethereun to see how the investors will grab their coins for free.
Also do pseudo continue to have development or not?
256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: August 19, 2014, 10:14:53 PM
Now all services on coinia.net/qora redirected to htto://qora.co.in.

Well done @agran
Thanks for your efforts
257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 19, 2014, 07:33:17 AM
damn whats happened was this a scam
Short answer: no

what happened was it just successful fud

Yes, and lies spread that the devs dumped, but you can still see their wallets up there and increasing. They are taking advantage of the bargain/steal.

thats a bit silly of people then, so why hasn't price recovered

A lot of people have misread the audit results and dumped everything they got in a short period.
Many fuders were here for days and they all got screwed especially the darkers who right now facing a great loss (bad things happens to bad people).
A mintpal account hack had cost a 100 btc dump on cloak.
But after all,  #CloakStrong
This is not a short term pump and dump (what have actually take place in exchanges) this is alive and is going to be a game changer.
POSA confirmed as a a truly anonymous. After all,  which coin is a truly anonymous proof of stake so far?
And there's more to come
258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GUE]GuerillaCoin - **NEW ANDROID APP SCREENSHOTS** - Dynamic Interest on: August 19, 2014, 07:00:29 AM
Okay guys listen up...

Here is the real story of what's been going down with GUE

As you all know, the GUE dev was django.
YES he did bail.
StGNU was never and is NOT a DEV of GUE

He was passed info from Django as a trusted community member, not as a DEV.
As one of the remaining community members, who held the info from Django, he passed that on to the new GUE devs:
CryptoBonzo
CuriousCrypto

Those are your GUE devs,
yes I am an OP on IRC, as I am many other coins, trying to help out where I can.
I tried to get a hold of all of them in the recent absence...

It appears that Bonzo and Curious have bailed, but I am not sure...
If anyone can contact them, they are the GUE devs as of last.

StGNU was never a GUE developer, he just informed of the bridge between Django, and Bonzo/Curious...

Myself and him where just active IRC members relaying information of the new developers.
Who as of now are MIA.

I am not sure what will happen with this coin, I have information that can be passed a long if someone can get a hold of the devs for GUE (Curious/Bonzo), but if not, it seems you are devless as of now.

I am on IRC 24/7 if anyone wants to contact me for further questions. I have never developed for GUE, the same with StGNU, I just happen to be involved in many communities and am trying to relay what I know to communities.

Im not sure what we can do for this coin at this point. If anyone can get a hold of the devs (Bonzo/curious) you might know more than I.

 

As far as I know dynamic interest POS that Guerilla has introduced into the alt coins has been copied twice from two new alt coins.So, this innovative feature maybe left without devs?
I think that someone will get interested with this but unfortunately I cannot help in this.
Maybe wait for the existing devs till their response and then we might send messages to any known dev around here.
And also a community take over will be a great achievement right now.
259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 18, 2014, 01:01:02 PM
@Celani10 is right... at least with the numbers - numbers don't lie.

How the numbers proves that the dev team dumped their stack?
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 18, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
http://www.cloaktalk.org/t/private-audit-cloakcoin-posa/243

[TheDagger]
TheDagger
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Update:

Cloak team is relentlessly serious about developing the best anon service for the Crypto community, so much so we got ourselves a private audit and are making the results totally transparent as outlined in a previous update.

Please take time to read the audit and realise we aren't going anywhere until we deliver on everything in order to reach the goals we laid out in the first weeks of launch.

The free nature of these Crypto markets means that investors can decide to leave, stick with us, support us or do anything they wish (at any time) but despite the price or FUD accusations our goals remain constant. We strive to be the best.

The results of this audit are "quite a wake up call" and for us that means they are to be looked upon as being one more step towards the end goal for the Cloak team, another evolution in the right direction. We're growing, learning, developing and being mature enough to recognise our faults and build on them for a stronger CLOAK in the future!

Here are the evaluations of a non-fluff / non-pretentious private audit in which have spawned countless hours of discussion, solid propositions of plans and real world solutions to develop better technology in which we can obtain our destination of anon superiority. The development and audits of various plans evolved and adapted from PoSA is now well under way.

Thank you to those who stick by us through thick and thin. It's not easy when the stakes are so high and we're subject to such extreme price movements... Please believe us when we say the CLOAK team has never been so strong and is never giving up on delivery, no matter what it takes we are all passionate about Cloak and the possibilities of all our future projects... 100% trust less anon being the biggest challenge!

Audit Results

Especially because of the timing and the coin price this post is going to be misinterpreted, spawn
conspiracy theories, and largely do nothing to resolve the chaos of misinformation surrounding this coin.

These products are an unfortunate side effect of the truth, as misconstrued as it may be. The developers continue to hold all their coins, any notions that the developers have abandoned the coin or sold is easy to believe but the rich list can be used to confirm they have not.

Please read the post carefully and decide whether you would like to be involved in a coin that will be honest with you about the challenges every anonymous implementation is facing.

We promised you an audit of the PoSA v1 and Block Escrow protocols. To accomplish this we set out to find people with the experience required among the community. A little over a week ago we were successful. Our internal auditor runs a software development company creating enterprise software solutions, so we can give everything the inspection it deserves before subjecting ourselves to a media or academic audit.

A few days ago our auditor returned to us with some hard truths. We failed our audit on PoSA v1 and Block Escrow.

PoSA v1 is a fully anonymous system according to our audit, but it is not trustless.

It requires the active participation of nodes involved in the transaction. If that participation ceases due to malicious activity or even something benign like prolonged failed connectivity, the funds will be stuck in transit of the offline node until connectivity is regained and the node cooperates. The funds can’t be stolen, just stuck until the node cooperates. This is trust, like masternodes, and we don’t want it in our system. To avoid this very unlikely issue in PoSA wallets, it’s best to set posa=0 in your CloakCoin.conf file for the mean time and avoid sending PoSA transactions.

Block Escrow was proposed to be the solution to this problem, but it failed the same audit for different reasons. Block Escrow is trustless by relying on the consensus of the CloakCoin network to process transactions, but this is not anonymous since it leaves a discernable transaction trail within the public ledger.

Block Escrow has the opposite problem as PoSA, and adding it into PoSA isn’t going to change that. It’s just going to cause both problems to exist independently. Our auditor included some good suggestions in their audit regarding how to address these problems and we have proposed a new protocol implementing their suggestions with several new innovations.

We have already fully described this new protocol in a reproducible technical specification after round the clock efforts by the team. This new specification is being vigorously audited now by both the auditor and the entire development team; we expect the results within the next few days and will be publishing them.

If the results are a pass we will pursue implementing and marketing our new protocol, which we expect to take approximately a month – it’s a complete overhaul. We will also publicly release our full technical specification for public audit if we pass. We realize this opens us up to the possibility of competitors racing to implement, but it’s a race we’re ready for.

Releasing an auditable protocol would be the least we can do for this community that has stuck with us through the pumpers and the dumpers. If the results are a fail, we’ll return with another proposal or fix for audit within the week. We’ll do that until we get it right, and then we’re going to release the specifications for public audit. If the public audit comes up with issues then we will address those too. We’ll keep going and going, because we are determined to break boundaries in anonymous technologies. We’re not happy with the current “trust” filled solutions available on the market. We don’t think coinjoin is an answer. We’ve made similar mistakes as other developers by over protecting our anonymous solution to the point that it cannot be properly audited. Not anymore.

The market deserves the chance to act on this information, for good and bad. We promised an audit
and we intend to demonstrate that we will stick to our word. Some people will see the fact that errors have been made and delays have occurred as a reason to dump their Cloakcoin and they deserve that chance.

Others will see a development team adamant about pushing barriers and making a breakthrough in anonymous technologies, dealing with and disclosing issues that occur in the testing process with a brutal honesty.

Without doubt, accusations of scamcoin and developers dumping to profit off some insider information will be shouted at every chance. Worse, we’ve had people like bobsurplus whispering into the developer’s ears, encouraging them to commit fraud for profit, dump and kill off the coin to jump on a new coin to pump and dump the same way he did to CloakCoin.

The truth is no auditor or developer had a chance to use this information to dump any coin – people like bobsurplus killed the price with a pump and dump before the Block Escrow audit even began. This isn’t a get rich quick scheme and developers aren’t abandoning the coin. This is a software development organization. Mistakes get made. We have mechanisms with which to catch errors and save ourselves embarrassment before releasing half formed ideas to the public, and they failed on this occasion.

We know you're disappointed about the price, we are too. We're back where we were a month ago both in price and development schedule. A lot of people were scared that this is another case of developers leaving people with a scam. There is a lot of reason for that fear to exist, it's very rational. The alt-coin marketplace is full of bad actors, but we're going to use this disclosure and continued audits to prove that notion wrong. We think Cloak is a strong buy at current prices despite these audit results and we're holding. Our auditor is holding. If you saw the train depart without you once with envy in your eye, climb aboard. We're leaving the station.

TL;DR:

The audit that was promised on PoSA v1 was performed. It failed for not being immune to malicious nodes. We proposed a solution called Block Escrow, it failed the same audit for not being properly anonymous. We have a promising solution right now which has not yet failed the audit despite scrutiny, but after being burned from past mistakes we won’t be releasing technical diagrams of it until we have some consensus from auditors and developers – one week timeframe until release of such diagrams if we pass the audit on our new protocol.

Look for the audit results on our new protocol as well as a full technical description in the coming days. Expect continued news good or bad from the developers. We think Cloakcoin has a very exciting future of trustless anonymity among many other features.

We’re CloakStrong.

(edited to fix block of text and improve readability)


This is one of the greatest things around this dev team.
This team is totally responsible on everything around cloak and their dedication seems from out of space in the entire alt coins world. I have seen only few teams /developers so far who are willing to work only for deploying something innovative for the entire crypto society.
We all have seen this massive pump and dump in here but nothing can beat this team.
The manipulators had played their cards so far.From now and on the real deployment will take place. If it is good then cloak will established as one of the majors, if it fails then it will be drawn into the ocean.

But this team seems that is working in here... And working hard.
Which one has requested an audit into their development so far? I only know XC when they published their source (due to some fedora coin comments)... Think about that.
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