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Author Topic: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA  (Read 1266556 times)
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August 19, 2014, 07:19:34 AM
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The devs are everything except being quiet.  Check the official cloak IRC and Cloaktalk forum.

i'd like to get on IRC, but i am banned! what gives?

#CLOAKcoin is banning CLOAK supporters now Sad

i held this whole time.. now i can't even talk to my CLOAK brethren

lol you tried to impersonate Dagger on the IRC

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August 19, 2014, 07:19:42 AM
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Price is growing wtf?

Do you want falling prices?

I think he dumped @ lows.

No I am still holding, I am just wondering.
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August 19, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
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damn whats happened was this a scam
Short answer: no

what happened was it just successful fud

Yes, and lies spread that the devs dumped, but you can still see their wallets up there and increasing. They are taking advantage of the bargain/steal.

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August 19, 2014, 07:22:43 AM
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damn whats happened was this a scam
Short answer: no

what happened was it just successful fud

Yes, and lies spread that the devs dumped, but you can still see their wallets up there and increasing. They are taking advantage of the bargain/steal.

thats a bit silly of people then, so why hasn't price recovered
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August 19, 2014, 07:33:17 AM
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damn whats happened was this a scam
Short answer: no

what happened was it just successful fud

Yes, and lies spread that the devs dumped, but you can still see their wallets up there and increasing. They are taking advantage of the bargain/steal.

thats a bit silly of people then, so why hasn't price recovered

A lot of people have misread the audit results and dumped everything they got in a short period.
Many fuders were here for days and they all got screwed especially the darkers who right now facing a great loss (bad things happens to bad people).
A mintpal account hack had cost a 100 btc dump on cloak.
But after all,  #CloakStrong
This is not a short term pump and dump (what have actually take place in exchanges) this is alive and is going to be a game changer.
POSA confirmed as a a truly anonymous. After all,  which coin is a truly anonymous proof of stake so far?
And there's more to come

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August 19, 2014, 07:35:59 AM
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damn whats happened was this a scam
Short answer: no

what happened was it just successful fud

Yes, and lies spread that the devs dumped, but you can still see their wallets up there and increasing. They are taking advantage of the bargain/steal.

thats a bit silly of people then, so why hasn't price recovered

A lot of people have misread the audit results and dumped everything they got in a short period.
Many fuders were here for days and they all got screwed especially the darkers who right now facing a great loss (bad things happens to bad people).
A mintpal account hack had cost a 100 btc dump on cloak.
But after all,  #CloakStrong
This is not a short term pump and dump (what have actually take place in exchanges) this is alive and is going to be a game changer.
POSA confirmed as a a truly anonymous. After all,  which coin is a truly anonymous proof of stake so far?
And there's more to come

could i get a link to the audit results,
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August 19, 2014, 07:46:30 AM
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damn whats happened was this a scam
Short answer: no

what happened was it just successful fud

One reason why prices exploded was a pump&dump scheme that was orchestrated through Bobsurplus and the people round him (and probably other P&D traders). TheDagger refers to this in his latest information. Of course, some people assumed a dev conspiracy. Fact is, Bobsurplus "admited" that it was him and the people who follow him to make money manipulating the price on Cloak. The scheme was described here and you should particularly look at the post that was later on deleted by Bobsurplus (https://i.imgur.com/fH1wLOs.png) where he talks about price manipulation.

I personally don´t  think that the fact that this kind of things are done in Crypto because people want to make quick BTCs makes this kind of scam more legitimate, but we have to deal with the situation that pumpers & dumpers are around and are looking out for your money short-term. So, if you bought in high, that may be really painful for you because it may take much longer until your initial investment pays back (if ever), but you can see from the past that every coin gets this pumps, not all survive but promising projects have the potential to reach new heights. Look at BTC - it was pumped to 30$ and then fell back to 50cts. Obviously many people made quick money short term and certainly not all of them held their BTC to profit from values above 100 or 500 $.

If people want a project like this to succeed they need to stop thinking short-term - even if others do. One fortunate fact when prospect is bad is, that at least a larger part of day-traders left the boat. This leaves the developers and us as community with time to work on project to create a stronger foundation.

Also, people should join cloaktalk.org, because it serves much better to discuss on the future of this coin.
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August 19, 2014, 07:55:16 AM
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And we are going back to 50K.  Wink
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August 19, 2014, 08:00:13 AM
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damn whats happened was this a scam
Short answer: no

what happened was it just successful fud

Yes, and lies spread that the devs dumped, but you can still see their wallets up there and increasing. They are taking advantage of the bargain/steal.

thats a bit silly of people then, so why hasn't price recovered

A lot of people have misread the audit results and dumped everything they got in a short period.
Many fuders were here for days and they all got screwed especially the darkers who right now facing a great loss (bad things happens to bad people).
A mintpal account hack had cost a 100 btc dump on cloak.
But after all,  #CloakStrong
This is not a short term pump and dump (what have actually take place in exchanges) this is alive and is going to be a game changer.
POSA confirmed as a a truly anonymous. After all,  which coin is a truly anonymous proof of stake so far?
And there's more to come

could i get a link to the audit results,


Check cloaktalk.org
edit: http://www.cloaktalk.org/t/private-audit-cloakcoin-posa/243/16
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August 19, 2014, 08:02:39 AM
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And we are going back to 50K.  Wink

Exactly.  Many people panicked, can't blame them.  But it is still time for them to jump on the train since the price is 30K atm.

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August 19, 2014, 08:08:53 AM
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Sell walls are slowly being cancelled...  Grin
#Cloakstrong
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August 19, 2014, 08:23:58 AM
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Yeah yeah, sure, don't cry if your precious ARCOIN also goes down the gutter

It can't be harder than if i buy Cloakcoin (sorry i like Cloakcoin but.... -1000% in one week  Roll Eyes)

Next week is 200 satoshi/unit?

I will rebuy my 1000 if it dips to 200sat/cloak


Kitaco seems you are not so pro trader like you all telling! I cant see you 200s lvl !  Grin

I see now 35k & growing! Good job!


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August 19, 2014, 08:27:49 AM
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we have no buy support, could see another drop to mid 20k if so im buying more
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August 19, 2014, 08:51:04 AM
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i just read the audit. it says the anon function is not trustless could that have been the reason for its fall
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August 19, 2014, 09:01:13 AM
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I believe DRK and XC have the same "startup" issues, they are not trustless. However, the developers of these coins didn't came out and tell people - and have not been audited yet.
Somehow this news (and let's not forget the fudsters out there Roll Eyes) have probably caused the fall. I do believe we could expect a quick rise to at least 50k before friday. This is a personal opinion ofcourse  Grin.

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August 19, 2014, 09:05:43 AM
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i just read the audit. it says the anon function is not trustless could that have been the reason for its fall



while the failed audit is not a good news, this is important part:


"PoSA v1 is a fully anonymous system according to our audit, but it is not trustless.

It requires the active participation of nodes involved in the transaction. ............This is trust, like masternodes, and we don’t want it in our system."

so, the coin is fully functioning anon, but not trustless - just like other anon coins. BUT they want it to be fully trustless, that is why they had the audit and continue to work on it.

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August 19, 2014, 09:19:15 AM
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We need a roadmap at least - I think.
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August 19, 2014, 10:02:58 AM
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We need a roadmap at least - I think.

Yeah I think a roadmap is definitely needed. I also think cloak needs some one to be a spokesperson, a public face that people can hold to account as way too many people have been scammed or maybe at least get verified by that cryptoasian guy
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August 19, 2014, 10:08:20 AM
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pod is nededd for the ipo/ico coins, i dont see the case here

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August 19, 2014, 10:14:35 AM
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pod is nededd for the ipo/ico coins, i dont see the case here

Yeah I get that, It just seems on of the big criticisms is the anon devs personally I don't have an issue but many do, a public spokesperson wouldn't go astray especially in the rebuilding phase we have ahead. I guess the hard part is finding someone with a good rep that the devs trust to keep their identity and is knowledgable enough to answer the hard questions. But I do put in a vote for a rough roadmap laid out.
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