In all fairness... that dead horse is pretty much pâté by now... not sure how much more you could beat it if you tried. |
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MrCeo showing a clear understanding of his own operations:  Wut? I'm practically a noob on this stuff and I can manage to get a wallet address... what's the link to the thread... is he THAT DUMB that he can't create an address in his own coin? If that's the case, then this guy needs more than an English tutor.. he needs a fundamental, grade school logic tutor to even hope to rise up to the level of us Muggles... Pshhhhtttt.... an you guys called him a muggle! For SHAME! |
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Just noticed that Evil Panda's footer looks like they're working for new crew now...
Plot twist: Garza, like all primates with money, has moved on to casino ownership.
This is not to imply that all casino owners are primates with money.I would hope you wouldn't insult primates that way... the bonobo are some of the friendliest primates around < wink, wink, nod, nod, say no more >  SMOOCHES! |
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Trying to bribe the accountant into claiming he's an "accredited investor" is just funny.
Bet that guy is giddy as a schoolgirl right about now that he didn't take the offer. It wouldn't surprise me if there weren't a couple people out there reading this and thinking they need to keep their business at least a little closer to the straight and narrow... the dumping that Garza's ex-employees (and I absolutely believe this was an inside job) have taken on him is massive... not nearly as massive as the dump Garza has taken on everyone within radius of himself... but, still impressive. |
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Yeah the mods here helped homero a lot but backed off recently
and everyone thought Theymos was a hero for telling Garza's lawyer to take a hike. WHat would be brave would be clean house of the mods here who helped Garza achieve success for long enough to earn the money to send lawyers after Theymos. Talk about reaping what you sow. I doubt that mods really took sides here. Yes, some posts were removed. dekay, bitpop, but also favelle, coldspirit, and other "visitors". There might be some misunderstandings (I even had my own posts removed from this thread and still don't get why), but I don't think there was any particular help for Garza. not in this thread anyway. Thank you. I have had less posts removed from here as of late. I seemed to have a run on them at one point. So it was the GAWNAZIs...figures! Well I got at least one guy tossed for his bullshit so I get some satisfaction in that. Just noticed that Evil Panda's footer looks like they're working for new crew now... |
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While paying for reputation management is a thing that most companies do.
Evil Panda's work for GAWCEO Josh Garza is well beyond reputation management and no matter which company (GAW Miners LLC, Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC, ZenMiner, ZenCloud, Paybase, PayFlash, Mineral, Coinstand, etc) this is all the doing of MrCEO himself Homero Josh Garza (and his buddy Stuart Fraser, Vice Chairman Cantor Fitzgerald) who had no problem acting like a scam artist and attempting to threaten people for the sake of his precious Paycoin Scam. It remains to be seen if the civil and criminal actions by CoinFire will also implicate Evil Panda even deeper in the Homero Garza web of deceit and intimidation tactics. I just feel sorry for anyone still holding Hashlets, Hashstakers, or any of the other Geniuses as Work products. They were double duped, first here on bitcointalk and then again on hashtalk.com.
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Can someone point me to that block of SEO words that suchmoon mentioned? I'm tired and hoping someone remembers approx where it was?
This? GAWCEO, MrCEO, josg21, Homero Garza, Josh Garza, Homero Josh Garza, Homero Joshua Garza, H. Josh Garza, H. Joshua Garza, GAW Miners LLC, Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC, B.T.C. LLC, GAW HSI, GAW High Speed Internet, Geniuses at Work, GAW, ZenMiner, ZenCloud, Paycoin, Paybase, PayFlash, Hashlet, Hashstaker, Hashtalk, Mineral, Coinstand. http://www.neverobsolete.com/important/homero-joshua-garza-aka-mr-scam-muggle/That must be it... if it is, then post #1 has it covered in spades. Wasn't there another SEO list with stuff like scam in it? Either way, sprinkled a bit of Garza SEO over on evil panda's thread... just spreadin' the luv :-) |
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It's crazy how many of the most paranoid worst-case scenarios end up being reality in this story.
I feel dumb for ever falling for any of it.
If scam artists weren't good at what they do, we wouldn't need laws against them because everyone would just bust a gut laughing at them. Don't feel bad for falling for it... it's the same as not understanding how a magician makes stuff 'magical' looking happens... except that, instead of good spirited entertainment, garza's goal was to just stuffed his pants with other people money. |
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Can someone point me to that block of SEO words that suchmoon mentioned? I'm tired and hoping someone remembers approx where it was?
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Has that been added to the OP (post #1) yet? maybe with big red letters :-) |
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HA... In the end, MrCEO STFU because, well, clearly he has a tiny ****! So, this pic must have been his "it's okay, lil'l buddy, i still like u" pic:  NOW I understand why he took that pic... |
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Okay... so... from an IRS perspective... how does a guy carrying only $13k in a bank account end of 2013 also carry $230k in note on a property + one or two exotic cars +  Can't imagine how that was even close to legit. If it was, he needs to quit screwing around with this crypto currency and sell budgeting advice. He may have suckered enough folks to pay for the $75k planes, $2k/night hotels, $2k/day car rentals, $160k 'gift' from Elon... and have an extension in for this year... but... wow... this guy really is a total scum bag. I hope if the IRS takes note, they go back 7 years in his history just for the fun of it. It's childish, but unsurprising, that he was claiming the Tesla was a gift because he owed Stuart Fraser so much money at that point. Or is my timeline off? His credit report shows he still owes 66k on it so not a gift and it appears he gave it away while he was still paying on it. (last payment was on 03/20/2015 So... he gave Stu a nice new monthly payment for Christmas on a car that Stu could have just gone out and bought if he really wanted one? No wonder he looked so confused in that video. Oh, and WTF Elon? Y U No Pay For Ur Gifts! |
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That image makes me ill every time I see it... what sort of f*ing tosser would take such a pic! |
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What if you steal televisions from say best buy and sell them to people, would that make them legit?.. I think this is something Josh said or close to it, it seems like he deleted more of his posts so I can not find the exact quote. BTW great job on your (or is it you're, you are?) coin  Josh was saying that when he made statements that they would buy the coin at $20, people should have understood it wasn't unlimited and forever... he said if a company offered TVs at <somerpice> would they sell 1000 at that price to just one person. This was in his debate with the in house counsel who told him to take down all his promises of $20/coin and was in the process of telling him that he had no choice but to pay the $20/coin to a complaining customer. Those were in emails around Dec 23rd if anyone wants to try to find them. |
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The primary issue I see is theft and respecting property rights. Homero created this coin and put the vast majority of them in his pocket. Fact. He owns them, done deal, it's over. Not saying I think it is a good thing or that I support Homero or his scheme in any way, shape, or form (obviously), but what we are talking about here is taking someone's property. Just because some people decide they don't like him does NOT give them the right to take his property. Example: If I were to start a Real Estate investment group with 100 shares, and held 49 shares and a group of investors held the other 51, it does NOT give them the right to hold a majority shareholder meeting and eliminate my shares to increase the value of their shares, regardless of what they think of me. That would simply not be legal. Do you think Mage would think it is a good idea to pull some monkeyshit like that with Litecoin? It would boost the value of the remaining coins- RIGHT? Pure genius. Why not do it? Get at least 51% of Litecoin holders together and eliminate the coins of whomever does not support them, or does not get the memo in time to get "validated" or those that wish to remain anonymous. Poof, Litecoin gets a huge price per coin boost.
So you are saying that Josh should keep his Coins? What about if a person received the Coins through illegitimate means? Does that mean that the person should keep the Coins, especially if they have near infinite selling power with them? You statement about litecoin doing is false, because if you were just doing it where you would cut off a certain part of the Coins that don't agree with your views then that part would fight against it and sell their Coins and attack the value so you wouldn't be gaining any value by doing it. Who decides what is "illegitimate means"? You? Me? Josh? Mage? TeamXPY? What Mage has been suggesting about seizing and burning coins is theft. FUCK Josh, this is not about him, if some group of people are allowed to to what they please with a crypto currency because they don't like someone the whole system is fucked- completely. The fact is that Homero created Paycoin and put most of them in his pocket. If you don't like it then don't buy any. Not liking how someone else decided to make a coin does not suddenly make it right to steal what is not yours. Josh owns them fucking coins, and stealing his coins will do a billion times more damage to the core principles of crypto than that scamming turd ever could no matter how many idiots he cons into buying them. If it is allowed to be done to one person (regardless of what you or I think of him- and trust me, I think Josh is a fucking turd) then crypto is not secure for anyone. Absolutely, Josh should not keep his coins... but destroying a technology for the purpose of getting back at an individual is NOT the way to do it. Cryptocurrency is just that, a cryptocurrency. No one wants to program dollar bills to scream and run away from drug dealers... the enforcement of laws or morals is left up to agencies and/or the public through public opinion... moral judgements is absolutely not the proper place to apply technology of any kind. If you want Josh's coins to be worthless, then make sure no one will trade or do business with him. Let the agencies confiscate them against his debts, fines, and fees. But, for all that is reasonable... do not even introduce the idea of trashing a technology by overlaying arbitrary moral judgements onto it. |
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I suspect the crowd left over there really are either (a) shills or (b) the most gullible of gullible. These are the sort that would send money to Nigerian princes if they only had his email address. |
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Okay... so... from an IRS perspective... how does a guy carrying only $13k in a bank account end of 2013 also carry $230k in note on a property + one or two exotic cars + Can't imagine how that was even close to legit. If it was, he needs to quit screwing around with this crypto currency and sell budgeting advice. He may have suckered enough folks to pay for the $75k planes, $2k/night hotels, $2k/day car rentals, $160k 'gift' from Elon... and have an extension in for this year... but... wow... this guy really is a total scum bag. I hope if the IRS takes note, they go back 7 years in his history just for the fun of it. It's childish, but unsurprising, that he was claiming the Tesla was a gift because he owed Stuart Fraser so much money at that point. Or is my timeline off? In mid- late-2013 he owed stu a butt ton of money (from my perspective), $230k on rental houses, $150k-ish on something else, then what ever stu had sunk into his pre-crypto-miner venture with the rural wifi (that now runs about 700 clients with income around $25k/mo)... that was all BEFORE the crypto-currency shit. Since stu was promised 41% on the current itteration of GAW, I'm thinking stu fronted the purchases of the miner machines and developer costs during 2014 as well... stu is probably so deep that his eyes float every time he hears Josh's name... then in late 2014, Josh buys the Tesla for $140-ish and gifts it to Stu in Dec 2014. All I can say is that Stu had to be one love struck puppy or the densest person on earth. |
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Okay... so... from an IRS perspective... how does a guy carrying only $13k in a bank account end of 2013 also carry $230k in note on a property + one or two exotic cars + Can't imagine how that was even close to legit. If it was, he needs to quit screwing around with this crypto currency and sell budgeting advice. He may have suckered enough folks to pay for the $75k planes, $2k/night hotels, $2k/day car rentals, $160k 'gift' from Elon... and have an extension in for this year... but... wow... this guy really is a total scum bag. I hope if the IRS takes note, they go back 7 years in his history just for the fun of it. |
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That was posted Jan 14th... wasn't he already contracting out the closure and his exit from all of it at that time? |
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