This is the newest message when we log into our BitFeud account: We will host a few TEST FLASH CASH SALES next week (October 13 through October 19). The amount of CASH sold will be REAL, so the winners will actually receive their product when they make their purchase! This should be a TON of fun! We hope you are ready next week to get some HALF PRICED CASH! These sales will ONLY be open to Premier members. More details on the Get Cash Page soon. Guys, the premium membership is $5 monthly, don't you think you should try and see for yourself... you would know first hand if this is a scam or not. |
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Yes, I do  Last night I sent to GBBG support this message: Hi GBBG Support,
I have an issue while advertising our new BitFeud site, not sure how
to respond to such statement:
"Why can't they just give you 1/2 the prize instead of making you pay
1/2 and then sending you double? Unless it's a scam, which I think it
is."
I know it is not a scam, but how I can help others to know that too,
how I can explain the logic behind making us pay 1/2 first And this is their reply: Because it is not a prize. It is a product. You are buying cash in a flash sale, not winning a prize. Let's say 1,000 people went to a flash sale online for a television. Now, only 100 can actually 'win' the opportunity to buy the television. Maybe the television is worth $1000 but they will let the winners buy it for only $200. Should they just cut the television into 5 pieces and send you 20% of it instead of you paying $200 and receiving the entire television? That would not make sense. The same is true here. We are having a flash sale for cash. You are buying a pile of cash at a discount, not winning a prize or a lottery. In addition, the difference between the amount you pay and the amount you receive is being covered by a sponsor. So, we must receive payment for the product, at the set price, before we can deliver the product. Remember, the key words here are FLASH SALE. We have never said drawing, or lottery, or prize.
GBBG And they have written: We appreciated your q&a so much that we actually posted this on the Basics Page now. :-)
GBBG Please look, this is copied from Bitfeud Basics Page: http://www.bitfeud.com/member-area/basics/(you need to be log in to access it) How does this work?Basically, it is very simple. We will host several FLASH CASH sales per month. All you need to do is be present to win. If you click the “Get It!” button fast enough, you will be one of the many winners. Each winner gets to buy the CASH for half price. You have 48 hours to pay for your CASH. So, for example, if you click fast enough to be one of the winners for a $200 CASH sale, you must pay $100 within 48 hours and you will receive $200 back instantly! Membership Level Details: Free Member If your status is Free Member then you can participate in 1 FLASH CASH sale every 60 days. You will receive 10 GBBG Points every time you participate in a sale. Free members cannot earn referral commissions. There is no cost to participate as a Free member. Premier Member If your status is Premier Member then you can participate in UNLIMITED FLASH CASH sales every month. You will receive 100 GBBG Points every time you participate in a sale. Premier members also earn referral commissions... Why can’t bitfeud just give you half the cash amount (“prize”) instead of making you pay half and then sending you double?Because it is not a “prize”. It is a product. You are buying cash in a flash sale, not winning a prize. Let’s say 1,000 people went to a flash sale online for a television. Now, only 100 can actually ‘win’ the opportunity to buy the television. Maybe the television is worth $1000 but they will let the winners buy it for only $200. Should they just cut the television into 5 pieces and send you 20% of it instead of you paying $200 and receiving the entire television? That would not make sense. The same is true here. We are holding FLASH SALES for CASH. You are buying a pile of cash at a discount, not winning a prize or a lottery. In addition, the difference between the amount you pay and the amount you receive is being covered by sponsors, advertising sales, and other external revenue. So, we must receive payment for the PRODUCT, at the set PRICE, before we can deliver the PRODUCT. Remember, the key words here are FLASH SALE. This is NOT a drawing, or lottery, or prize. |
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Please look, http://www.iwantacar.com/ stats show they can deliver results for bitcoin ads! They have only been online for a few days, but they are already delivering results for their advertisers. Place your ad now and reach their growing membership of bitcoin enthusiasts! You get unlimited impressions and clicks. Your ad will be rotated randomly along with all other advertisements on iwantacar site. For only 0.10764263 BTC*, your ad runs for 30 days!To place an ad on the site, you simply need to get your FREE membership and upgrade to Premier status. All Premier members of iwantacar.com get 1 ad position and can place an ad into the system. Ads run the entire time you are a Premier member. JOIN NOW: http://www.iwantacar.com * NOTICE: iwantacar.com is a GBBG Project To join iwantacar.com you must be a member of GBBG, an exciting club that offers many projects where people can win amazing prizes and earn MONEY for doing simple things like clicking a mouse or watching a video. Membership in GBBG is 100% FREE! How to Sign Up 1.Register your FREE Account at bitbillions.com. 2.Sign in and find iwantacar.com and other amazing opportunities on the Projects Page of bitbillions.com 3.Activate your iwantacar.com registration from the Projects Page on bitbillions.com NOTICE: You must have a referrer ID to join bitbillions: http://www.bitbillions.com/?refid=16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiL |
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Get CASH for Half Price Here: http://www.bitfeud.com/member-area/get-cash/ $20 for $10Sale Opens: Details coming soon… Open To: Premier members only. NO Free members allowed. GET CASH NOW $60 for $30Sale Opens: Details coming soon… Open To: Premier members only. NO Free members allowed. GET CASH NOW $100 for $50Sale Opens: Details coming soon… Open To: Premier members only. NO Free members allowed. GET CASH NOW NOTICES Sales will NOT begin at an exact time. We will announce an estimated time for a sale to begin. The actual sale will begin at a random time within 30 minutes of the estimated time that was announced. For example, if we announced a sale will begin around 13:00 EDT, it can begin anytime from 12:30 EDT to 13:30 EDT. You must be present on the page at the time the sale goes live in order to see the button and possibly win. You must click the “Get It!” button while it is active on the page. The “Get It!” button will only appear for a few seconds, so you must click fast when it appears. Not all people that click the “Get It!” button will be winners. We will announce prior to the start of each FLASH CASH SALE the exact number of winners for that sale. Winners will be the first members within the announced number that click the “Get It!” button. So, for example, if we announced 2,000 winners for a sale, the first 2,000 members to click the “Get It!” button would win. All others would not win. The list of winners will be calculated and displayed on this page within 24 hours of the end of a FLASH CASH SALE. If your status is Free Member then you can participate in 1 FLASH CASH sale every 60 days. You will receive 10 GBBG Points every time you participate in a sale. Free members cannot earn referral commissions. There is no cost to participate as a Free member. NO FREE MEMBERS ALLOWED UNTIL DECEMBER
All FLASH CASH SALES will be open ONLY for Premier members until December. Free members will be able to watch, but not participate in any sales until December.
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Why can't they just give you 1/2 the prize instead of making you pay 1/2 and then sending you double? Unless it's a scam, which I think it is. If this is a scam, everything from them will have to be a scam, not only one website, one project... Plus, if it is a scam, we would not have to wait too long to learn about it... we would learn with the first flash sales. In BitFeud membership area is a page titled Transparency: http://www.bitfeud.com/member-area/transparency/The data there is updated daily from previous day’s revenue. All members can see the bitcoin addresses of various pools and can confirm through 3rd party sites if the balance is accurate. This is what they say: "NOTICES We update the information on this page daily. Each day we transfer funds from our general revenue account to the appropriate pools. We also transmit revenue to GBBG, which is further transferred to various pools for bitbillions and the GBBG Matrix. You can verify GBBG Matrix and bitbillions data on the Transparency page on bitbillions.com for further transparency. Anyone on earth can independently verify the data on this page. We cannot fake or manipulate this data in any way. One of the beautiful things about bitcoin is that the blockchain is 100% transparent. Therefore, you can copy/paste the bitcoin address of any of these pools into ANY blockchain explorer and verify the balance yourself. You can even use your own bicoin client to verify this data if you are an advanced bitcoin user." ACCOUNTING METHOD
Membership Revenue General BTC Address
35% Prizes Pool
35% Referral Comp Pool
Remainder bitbillions.com
Other Revenue General BTC Address
35% Prizes Pool
Remainder bitbillions.com
"Why can't they just give you 1/2 the prize instead of making you pay 1/2 and then sending you double?" Yep, it surely seems more sensible to give 1/2 price... All of us are asking the same question, BUT at the same time, all of us trust that they must have some good reasons for making us pay first and that very soon, with the first flash sales, we learn these reasons too. As soon as I understand the logic behind such transactions, I will share it here, now I am simply not sure, the site just opened and we haven't had yet any flash sales. |
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Well, at least you knew the right section to put your ponzi in. GBBG, their BTC Fund and all their projects such as http://www.iwantacar.com/ and http://www.bitfeud.com/ neither are ponzi or gambling. I am writing about them here, for this is where my first post was moved, but I am still patiently waiting for global moderators to move my threads to the correct category... Everything inside GBBG and BitBillions is very well documented with 100% transparency, but since the organization is still in development stage, some people consider their ventures risky... I believe that many, many sites from Service announcements https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0 are much more risky than GBBG and would size to exist in few months from now, and that GBBG and all their projects will stay and flourish and prove that they did not deserved to be placed into gambling category. |
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@b!z, every intelligent person knows that neither irony or sarcasm is argument  In your signature you have In Bitcoin we trust. Well GBBG and all its members trust in Bitcoin too, and work hard towards promoting BTC to masses and strengthening BTC economy. |
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I don't know what that has to do with your project @BIGMERVE GBBG (aka BitBillions.com) is a major Bitcoin organization, inside which new products are developed and marketed, and profits are collectively shared with all members (according to their involvement and participation) The monthly revenue profits pools are based on points earned from participation in various projects. The newest, just released project is Bitfeud. All GBBG members, regardless of membership level, can participate in all live projects, and all projects have to be first entered and registered into from BitBillions membership site. You can't join any of the GBBG websites (such as http://www.iwantacar.com/ or http://www.bitfeud.com/) without registering first in http://www.bitbillions.com/, and you can't register in BitBillions without current member ID as your sponsor. Every project has its own compensation plan and earnings potential. Here's an extra note about BitFued cash flash sales: NOTICES Sales will NOT begin at an exact time. We will announce an estimated time for a sale to begin. The actual sale will begin at a random time within 30 minutes of the estimated time that was announced. For example, if we announced a sale will begin around 13:00 EDT, it can begin anytime from 12:30 EDT to 13:30 EDT. You must be present on the page at the time the sale goes live in order to see the button and possibly win. You must click the “Get It!” button while it is active on the page. The “Get It!” button will only appear for a few seconds, so you must click fast when it appears. Not all people that click the “Get It!” button will be winners. We will announce prior to the start of each FLASH CASH SALE the exact number of winners for that sale. Winners will be the first members within the announced number that click the “Get It!” button. So, for example, if we announced 2,000 winners for a sale, the first 2,000 members to click the “Get It!” button would win. All others would not win. The list of winners will be calculated and displayed on this page within 24 hours of the end of a FLASH CASH SALE. If you are a Premium member, you may participate in every sale. If you are a FREE Member, you may only participate in 1 sale every 60 days. The premium membership is $5 monthly, don't you think this is worth to check... what if you could really get there half priced cash... The BitBillions membership is free: http://www.bitbillions.com/?refid=16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiL |
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GBBG just released their newest project: http://www.bitfeud.com/ To join bitfeud.com you must be a member of GBBG, an exciting club that offers many projects where people can win amazing prizes and earn MONEY for doing simple things like clicking a mouse or watching a video. Membership in GBBG is 100% FREE! If you would like to register for bitfeud.com and get half priced CASH, then follow these simple steps: How to Sign Up: -Register your FREE Account at http://www.bitbillions.com/?refid=16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiL (you need to be invited there by a registered member and you need it's ID:16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiL -Sign in and find bitfeud.com and other amazing opportunities on the Projects Page of bitbillions.com -Activate your bitfeud.com registration from the Projects Page on bitbillions.com
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Brand New from GBBG organization: http://www.bitfeud.com/-Multiple Flash Sales Every Month -1/2 Price CASH -Double Your Money Instantly Yep, I know, it seems way too good to be true, still, check it up, for all together, this even does not belong into Gambling category: What if I Don’t Win?
If you don’t win, then you don’t pay anything. It doesn’t cost you anything to play. There is ABSOLUTELY NO RISK whatsoever. Just show up for the sale, try to click the GET IT! button faster than most people, and win. If you are not a winner, all you risk is a few seconds of your time.
So, you do not gamble anything... BUT: BitFeud is a GBBG ProjectTo join bitfeud.com you must be a member of GBBG, an exciting club that offers many projects where people can win amazing prizes and earn MONEY for doing simple things like clicking a mouse or watching a video. Membership in GBBG is 100% FREE! If you would like to register for bitfeud.com and get half priced CASH, then follow these simple steps: How to Sign Up: -Register your FREE Account at http://www.bitbillions.com/?refid=16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiL (you need to be invited there by a registered member and you need it's ID:16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiL -Sign in and find bitfeud.com and other amazing opportunities on the Projects Page of bitbillions.com -Activate your bitfeud.com registration from the Projects Page on bitbillions.com
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Hi everyone, just so you know, the ads site from GBBG is 100% live now: http://www.iwantacar.com/?refid=16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiL If you are currently promoting something on the net, consider joining it and upgrading to a premium member, your ad will rotate there for $9 per month. Very, very good price for quality advertising And if you are a PPC participant, consider joining it as a free member and look around, you will like the quality of this site and number of ads to click on, oh, and of course the chance to win that car you have to wait 40 seconds until you can click on a new ad and each time you access the ads page, you need to solve a quick puzzle, but it is much faster than to fill the right capcha. You can read more about the membership levels and everything here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=301514.msg3278446#msg3278446So, this is GBBG very first project from which all BitBillions members can earn points, (of course free members too), there are many more on the horizon, "over time, GBBG will have hundreds of products on the market. Each product represents another way our members earn GBBG Points and/or MONEY!" Some of them like this ads site are very simple, others are extremely complex and will take much longer to implement... |
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Hi guys, the ads are live now. They have a great anti cheating system and everything looks super |
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This is the new pop-out in iwantacar member's area: IMPORTANT NOTICE
If you are a Premier member, be sure to get your ad into the system. Click the “My Ad” button on the navigation menu to manage your ad. We will implement live ads very soon. Members will be earning entries and GBBG Points. It’s just about time to rock and roll! So, for $9 per month, you can place your ad in iwantacar rotation for a whole month! Not a bad deal even if, you never plan on clicking and earning GBBG points and entries into the car drawing |
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They are an entire organization, this is from their just published blog post: Management Members MUST do everything they can to manage the organization effectively and efficiently. Development Members MUST do everything they can to build the absolute best products and software possible. General Members MUST do everything they can to build a growing sales revenue and membership.
We are a family. We are a very close community of partners. GBBG is not a greedy corporate entity that is just looking to make a few people rich at the detriment of others. This is evident in the fact that a MINIMUM of 50% of revenue will be shared with the General Membership each month. Most networking and sales organizations strive to keep ‘affiliate compensation’ and ‘marketing compensation’ below 20% of sales. Our goal is to spread the most reasonable amount of wealth possible to our partners, while maintaining enough revenue to develop quality products and grow a dependable opportunity.
Are you a true partner? If so, you are challenged to accept your role and deliver on your part of the bargain. Every member has a role and responsibility in the success of the overall company. If every member fulfills their part of the bargain, we are unstoppable. Success and untold riches are ours for the taking. LET’S GO GET IT! and I am their founder and a true partner :-) |
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@ Mike Christ, check it up for yourself, that "ponzi" has 100% Transparency: 100% Transparency
Data updated daily from previous day’s revenue. The following table shows the bitcoin addresses of various pools important to our members. This information can be confirmed through 3rd party sites to be proven 100% trustworthy and accurate.
Pool Bitcoin Address Balance
25K Drawing Pool 1BXqViyCSPXhLs7F8TvWkPEeeohWQo7XPC 0.438400 BTC | $ 59.68 USD
50K Drawing Pool 16BWUQKd8w2ek65sxSFdTJzVY1Gt673wwq 0.438900 BTC | $ 59.74 USD
100K Drawing Pool 1Nz9byQguChXZDd4aohT3bBoZc2axJYwhU 0.438900 BTC | $ 59.74 USD
Referral Compensation Pool 12SBEQwjDznceMJaZJDuEJTqFrzsq33AkH 0.521254 BTC | $ 70.95 USD
NOTICES
We update the information on this page daily. Each day we transfer funds from our general revenue account to the appropriate pools. We also transmit revenue to GBBG, which is further transferred to various pools for bitbillions and the GBBG Matrix. You can verify GBBG Matrix and bitbillions data on the Transparency page on bitbillions.com for further transparency.
Anyone on earth can independently verify the data on this page. We cannot fake or manipulate this data in any way. One of the beautiful things about bitcoin is that the blockchain is 100% transparent. Therefore, you can copy/paste the bitcoin address of any of these pools into ANY blockchain explorer and verify the balance yourself. You can even use your own bicoin client to verify this data if you are an advanced bitcoin user. |
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PS
I forgot to add:
Ads Page is launching October 1, 2013
Beginning October 1, 2013, GBBG will display a set of 30 ads on the ads page every time you view it. All you will need to do is click an ad to see if you get entries into a DREAM CAR drawing pool & GBBG Points. The number of Entry Ads on the page and the number of entries you receive IF you click on an Entry Ad will be determined by your membership Level.
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I am not the owner of this site, the owner is GBBG, but I write here about their organization from the very beginning, so I feel entitled to announce the opening of: http://www.iwantacar.com/?refid=16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiL in its own new thread. Why I have chosen to post this is gambling: -First of all, besides a very special PTC, the site has a lottery part, we earn entries into car drawings, and every lottery is a gambling -Secondly, in Service Announcements we can't post our ref links, and this site comes with my username from GBBG organization, so I am hoping that it would not get deleted here Now about the site: It's an exclusive advertising and content review site where you will open a page of 30 ads. You will click an ad. If you click an Entry Ad you will receive one or more entries into a drawing to win your DREAM CAR. You can reload the ad page as often as you want to try and win as many entries and GBBG Points as you desire. There are 4 Membership Levels: -Free Member -Basic Member ($1 per month) -Standard Member ($3 per month) -Premier Member ($9 per month and this includes 1 ad position which will rotate constantly the entire time the account is in active Premier status. Premier Members may sell this position to 3rd party advertisers for whatever amount they desire.) (of course $ are equivalent to BTC value, the only way we can pay for our membership here is in BTC) The number of ads with entries on each page is determined by the membership level. The number of entries we earn by clicking on an Entry Ad is determined by the membership level. Every entry is also a GBBG Point and will be transmitted to GBBG and paid for by BTC. There are 3 pools: -25K Pool Win any car, truck or SUV with a retail price up to $25,000 USD! -50K Pool Win any car, truck or SUV with a retail price up to $50,000 USD! -100K Pool Win any car, truck or SUV with a retail price up to $100,000 USD! When we click on a Entry Ad on the Ads Page, we will receive a certain number of entries based on our level of membership. We decide which pool we wish these entries to be placed into. GBBG deposit 12% of their revenue into each pool. When the BTC balance of any pool grows to a point that it is equal to the prize value in USD, they immediately conduct a drawing and award a winner. Then, they reset the pool balance to zero and begin building the balance for another drawing. When a winner is chosen, their member ID number will appear on the Winners Page. GBBG will contact them and immediately begin the process of awarding their prize. The winner will visit any new car dealership and select any brand-new vehicle they desire, with a total price (including tax and delivery) up to the prize amount. GBBG will then arrange terms with the dealership to pay for the vehicle and deliver it to the winner. For example, if you win a 50K Pool drawing, you may go to any new car dealership and select any vehicle you desire with a total price (including tax and delivery) up to $50,000 USD 100% TransparencyData updated daily from previous day’s revenue. The following table shows the bitcoin addresses of various pools important to the members. This information can be confirmed through 3rd party sites to be proven 100% trustworthy and accurate. Pool Bitcoin Address Balance 25K Drawing Pool 1BXqViyCSPXhLs7F8TvWkPEeeohWQo7XPC 0.438400 BTC | $ 59.66 USD 50K Drawing Pool 16BWUQKd8w2ek65sxSFdTJzVY1Gt673wwq 0.438900 BTC | $ 59.73 USD 100K Drawing Pool 1Nz9byQguChXZDd4aohT3bBoZc2axJYwhU 0.438900 BTC | $ 59.73 USD Referral Compensation Pool 12SBEQwjDznceMJaZJDuEJTqFrzsq33AkH 0.521254 BTC | $ 70.93 USD NOTICES"We update the information on this page daily. Each day we transfer funds from our general revenue account to the appropriate pools. We also transmit revenue to GBBG, which is further transferred to various pools for bitbillions and the GBBG Matrix. You can verify GBBG Matrix and bitbillions data on the Transparency page on bitbillions.com for further transparency. Anyone on earth can independently verify the data on this page. We cannot fake or manipulate this data in any way. One of the beautiful things about bitcoin is that the blockchain is 100% transparent. Therefore, you can copy/paste the bitcoin address of any of these pools into ANY blockchain explorer and verify the balance yourself. You can even use your own bicoin client to verify this data if you are an advanced bitcoin user." ACCOUNTING METHOD: Sales Revenue: General BTC Address 12% 25K Pool 12% 50K Pool 12% 100K Pool 40% Referral Comp Pool Remainder: bitbillions.com: http://www.bitbillions.com/member-area/transparency/This is going to be a major site with many members. The registrations (through BitBillions free membership) only have started. At this very moment there are: Total Members: 711 Free Members: 677 Basic Members: 2 Standard Members: 3 Premier Members: 29 Register now: http://www.iwantacar.com/?refid=16baDwtNMeXhksVEe4ibnNLfw82znkGaiLgrab your own ref link, share it with others and , you will get nicely rewarded even if you do not win that dream car... |
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another one of my silly typos, thx for pointing it up so quickly (BTW guys, it was a single, really silly one), and feels good to know that I am being read and that I need to be careful here.
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