Do you really believe that the Stratis team have any responsibility for blitz?
I expect Chris will do what he previously said and Blitz will become the first sidechain of Stratis, the Bittrex listing has nothing to do with that, and I did not see the conversation in telegram and if Chris was involved. If that doesn't happen then I would expect someone would test the deal blitz executives made in court with a class action , the offer they rejected was for a 1/6 swap, so that implies Blitz investors own a similar proportion in the deal they accepted and agreed to with Chris. The sums are big enough now that Blitz investors aren't likely to walk away with nothing, the deal was real, and never denied, and in a court under oath nobody is going to purger themselves and lie. |
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dude give it up, it is dead, the end. like i told you ppl a year ago. wtf.
The deal offered to blitz investors has never been denied , the 'executives' chose the option to take a % in stratis rather than a swap with some dilution, what you or anyone else says is irrelevant. Option B:
We keep Blitzcoin as is. We make the new blockchain its own Bitalize project that pays a % to Blitz Rewards. This would mean the BAAS platform is isolated from Blitz. The new platform and blockchain will be developed in an open source manner. so some of the development could flow back into the Blitz Blockchain.
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blitz holder best bet now is to find the historical facts and leverage that so stratis holds to some of the promises they have made in the past or be tainted
Here are the details of the blitz-stratis deal Stratis is getting some attention, so it's a good time to try and pressure the blitz::stratis dev team into doing the right thing. Embarrassing people with the truth can sometimes get results, there's no FUD here, blitz has been abandoned, if not point me to some updates in the last six months ... you can't, coz there hasn't been any, if there was someone would have posted it, wouldn't they!
Shame and embarrassment from casting light on the truth isn't fud, but it's what happens when you ignore people, and betray their trust. What other way to proceed do you suggest, beg? Stratis investors can still make a good return from unethical devs, but maybe some will feel uncomfortable, through nothing more than rational self interest at how they may be treated themselves in the future.
What specific promise was made to you? Please don't be vague. Thank you Chris aka killakem was the lead dev of Blitz, and if you owned 30k blitz you were entitled to designation as an executive with access to a restricted slack channel. In the first half of 2016 he was active in blitz slack, the roadmap include the TVE fitalise, and earlier the Block Delivery Network. I bought 30k blitz with the promise that that would allow me to run a BDN node and earn revenues from providing the BDN service. You can see what was planned in the original blitz thread which is locked now. In june2016 chris/killakem made posts in the executive lounge of the blitz slack outlining a proposal. Unfortunately those messages are gone now with the 10k slack limit for messages. He posted a document in the executive lounge that had two options, and he asked for opinions from the +30k blitz holders. The proposition was this, from memory - chris was committed to blitz as his crypto project, but he was only able to work part time. He proposed starting a new coin with a higher coin cap, letting existing blitz holders swap over to the new coin, with the excess coins being sold in an ico to fund chris so he could work full time on blitz. So what was presented was the same project, blitz, but with two options 1 -no coin cap increase, no dilution, chris works part time, same blitz roadmap, basically no change 2- new coin with increased coins, blitz swap 1:1, excess coins sold, chris working full time, BUT same blitz roadmap I argued for option 2-, but most just saw dilution and voted for 1- My complaint is this, what chris presented in the blitz executive lounge mentioned nothing about starting a new project stratis, the choice was between part-time chris with no dilution of blitz, or full-time chris with dilution of blitz so coins could be sold in an ico to fund chris. My accusation is Chris did not make it clear that there was a third option, which is what happened - Chris would have an ico anyway for stratis, stopall work on blitz original roadmap, and blitz bag holders would get nothing. He asked for a 'vote', but didn't stick by the outcome. If the blitz executives knew of option 3, they obviously would have voted for the dilution of blitz, as that would have included the swap. I believe Chris presented his two options knowing people would vote with self interest for no dilution, so he could have the stratis ico without a fair swap for blitz holders. I think he played everyone, and he knew he was going to start stratis, and he wanted a way to avoid doing what jl777 has had to do with btcd swap for komodo. I was provably a supporter of Chris and blitz, as I bought 30k blitz and followed the blitz slack daily. I assure you since the stratis ico all activity related to blitz is 100% off the radar. I can find no updates of what is going on, but stratis is obviously Chris' new project, but in june 2016 he was saying blitz was still his main focus, part-time or full-time. I believe he lied, and everything he's done since backs that up. I have a copy of killakem's proposal document, for the sake of clarity I'll post it here. The choice for blitz executives was much clearer than you remember @Cryptosporidium, the ICO option which became stratis was outlined in some detail, so arguing that killakem tried to mislead the community about his plans for Stratis is complete BS. It was however restricted to just a handful of blitz whales knowing about it, and in retrospect that was a mistake. Every blitz investor should have known what was being planned, and had a chance to vote, but killakem did not conceal his intentions or trick any of the blitz whales. We will soon be announcing our next project. A Blockchain-as-a-service cloud platform, that will provide simple one click provisioning of btc, eth, nxt, bts etc blockchain nodes like the other baas providers. The new platform will offer private chains for developers and businesses to develop and test applications on their own private blockchain with customized specifications. These private chains will be pegged to the platforms parent blockchain and will utilized merged POS mining with elected nodes mining blocks for the private chains. This will remove the requirement for mining, seed nodes etc, while allowing customers of the platform to scale up or scale out. The aim is to significantly reduce the time required for developers and businesses to develop, test and deploy Blockchain solutions.
This BAAS Solution will have its own Blockchain, the private blockchains will be side chains off the parent blockchain with a 2 way peg in place.
To raise funds for the development and marketing, and to allow killakem to work full time on the project, we will have an IPO. This presents us with 2 options for Blitz holders:
Option A:
The new blockchain would have 24 million coins. The existing 4 million Blitzcoin would be exchanged for the IPO token. Then the other 20 million coins would be sold during the IPO. All of the funds raised would go into the development of this new parent blockchain, platform development and marketing. This platform will require elected nodes to secure the side chains, Blitz execs will have the first choice for operating one of these nodes, if option a is selected.
Please note these are example figures and this new blockchain is likely to have a higher coin supply.
Option B:
We keep Blitzcoin as is. We make the new blockchain its own Bitalize project that pays a % to Blitz Rewards. This would mean the BAAS platform is isolated from Blitz. The new platform and blockchain will be developed in an open source manner. so some of the development could flow back into the Blitz Blockchain.
And here We need to confirm whether this proposal document is authentic asap, if it's genuine this guys revelations about a secret vote among blitz whales isn't exactly FUD anymore (although he did make some offensive accusations against Chris, so should apologise), so the details of any foundation agreement between Chris and Blitz investors needs to be made public IMO.
I agree, as making it public would silence those whining babies. I think there will always be 6-8 or was it 5 no 10 ppl nono 100 ppl in a slack thought!! I'm happy those 6-8 or 2... didn't get any special treatment and we all got a fair ICO with Chris's brilliant idea in the end. If the document is true there was an agreement to pay some % (of profits ... ?) from Stratis to Blitz, so that could be construed as special treatment Option B:
We keep Blitzcoin as is. We make the new blockchain its own Bitalize project that pays a % to Blitz Rewards. This would mean the BAAS platform is isolated from Blitz. The new platform and blockchain will be developed in an open source manner. so some of the development could flow back into the Blitz Blockchain.
The document is authentic, here is the original link from killakem. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nmtoFYZJb0WBHYFiKyCpfpE4NGnMv21Q4dZ6oyQ2W4A/edit#File > Document details - shows creation date is March 20 2016 |
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SuperDAO communication is damn horrible, you guys just can't do it right it seems, and worst is that all our investment is stuck in your hands,
No news, updates, very late, nothing positive here, even the youtube video was not working properly (the one from telegram channel)
I don't know what you guys are doing on the side but it is clear you are not competent enough for this activity. I regret immensly to have given you trust with my funds, as of today it would be worth way more than it is in this evergoing pre-sale with no public sale (SIC)
You're not scammers but you're just way over your head. I never seen a project managed so badly than this one and don't argue with the "we focus on real work) communication is real work and achieving promised goals creates serious companies... unlike you.
Anyway thanks to you we'll have DAICO's so you can't just steal people's money without having any legal issues and a shitty roadmap never respected.
You are a fraud and frauds should go in front of judges and take responsability.
I'll pass by again soon to see what you can answer to this.
They probably ran out of funds and can't fund dev team, so now are in a catch 22 ... can't finish a product to sell to raise funds without devs, and can't pay devs to finish product without funds. They need new Angel investors. |
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Seems, it's really scam =(
Unfortunatelly I have some.. And I don't want to sell my coins for 0.35$
And what should I do....
It's better to sell it. BLITZ listed nowhere except Bittrex and going to be delisted soon. Site is down. It will cost 0 soon. No liquidity Selling this shit for 2-3k sat for me It's almost selling for 0 sat =( I'll try to wait devs. I don't believe that in future I'll see smth good.. but I don't have another way... ~~~ Just wait for clarification from Chris about the future plans for blitz, and if the roadmap for converting blitz into a sidechain is still going ahead. Don't sell at these prices, hodl until we know more details is my advice. |
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Stratis Favorite sidechained Bitz being delisted from Bittrex. Looks like this sleeping dragon will never wake up)
blitz yeah not looking too good for them now, i think something strange went on with that project anyway.... blitz senior members voted not to have a percentage of stratis for free apparently........ sounds legit The blitz stratis connection has been well documented and never refuted. The delisting from bittrex is a setback for blitz, but unless Chris is prepared to abandon blitz all together I think the current price drop is a big buy signal, blitz will still continue as the first sidechain of stratis regardless of bittrex listing. If I had access to my bittrex account I would be buying blitz by the handful. I agree with you, at 90%. The team don't sold any coins, the richlist is still the same and it seems that the 400k BLITZ on the market (dumped by bots and people) already were on bittrex. But there is still dome doubt remaining, the 10% left: why the sites are also down ? BLITZ is down to 1.4M market cap, which is +/- == zero in 2018. High risks, high rewards no ? It can be smart to buy some, when there's blood in the street. And, ATM, there's a TON blood in BLITZ's street  Personally i sold some STRAT to buy more BLITZ. Traders with no interest in the project itself have to sell, or become a true believer in blitz and hodl. What we're seeing is bittrex day traders acting rationally, and a mega overshoot on the downside price. Just wish I could buy some, my bittrex account has been frozen for months. How can Blitz be a sidechain of Stratis if Stratis sidechains functionality will only land later in the year? If it was some early experiment with sidechains then it was premature and there shouldnt be too much read into it if Blitz fails. In future there will be many many sidechains on Stratis when the functionality lands and many of them will fail because of various reasons eg. some internal issue with the company that created the sidechain on the Stratis platform. Those failures have no bearing on Stratis and does not take away any of the foundational capabilities and value Stratis provides. We all need to wait for Chris to update the community on Blitz, afaik it was he who announced Blitz would be a stratis sidechain a year ago. |
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Traders with no interest in the project itself have to sell, or become a true believer in blitz and hodl. What we're seeing is bittrex day traders acting rationally, and a mega overshoot on the downside price. Just wish I could buy some, my bittrex account has been frozen for months.
Consider starting a new OTC trading thread with some escrow, and link from here. Maybe you can find some people willing to sell you OTC instead of relying on Bittrex. I would definitely use an OTC thread market but it's not something I would setup myself, and bittrex traders who are dumping will probably dump all they have there in the next day or so, then I expect OTC price would recover back to where it was before, blitz is a coin for long term believers in deep hodl mode. If you're a long-term holder, you should have no problem getting in on what you consider a 'fire sale'. If not, just means you don't believe in it for the long-term, which is ok I guess  No, the fire sale is happening on bittrex and my account is locked, and guys selling for peanuts on bittrex aren't likely to wait to sell on an OTC thread when they can dump and move on in 5 minutes on bittrex. My being a long term holder can't unfreeze my bittrex account, you need to read what I wrote bro, i am a long term blitz holder, just a small one. |
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Atomic swap is coming to Waves - and so are new buyers
Atomic swap is coming to Waves - and so are new buyers Atomic swap is coming to Waves - and so are new buyers
Whoever is responsible for the spam attack on this thread might get attention from forum mods, this is so blatantly an attempt to increase the thread page count that it runs the risk of getting the waves thread banned again. Call it off guys! |
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Traders with no interest in the project itself have to sell, or become a true believer in blitz and hodl. What we're seeing is bittrex day traders acting rationally, and a mega overshoot on the downside price. Just wish I could buy some, my bittrex account has been frozen for months.
Consider starting a new OTC trading thread with some escrow, and link from here. Maybe you can find some people willing to sell you OTC instead of relying on Bittrex. I would definitely use an OTC thread market but it's not something I would setup myself, and bittrex traders who are dumping will probably dump all they have there in the next day or so, then I expect OTC price would recover back to where it was before, blitz is a coin for long term believers in deep hodl mode. |
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I just created a token on Waves. Cost me 1 WAVES, took me less than 2 minutes. Sweeeeeeeet!
I just created a token on Waves. Cost me 1 WAVES, took me less than 2 minutes. Sweeeeeeeet!
wtf is going on in this thread .... |
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I bought WAVES at ICO. I'm still holding.
Who is paying you bro, I see +7 pages of posts TODAY very similar in quality to yours, and it looks very weird. Promotion is good but spam is painful, whoever is organising the post blitz, stop it man, it's annoying. |
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Ethereum is in trouble if people realise what Waves can do
Are you being paid to post here bro, can I get a gig? |
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Have a small question from this new dev team
whats the reason they want to work on eBTC ?
we have seen many other projects ideas' whom was taken for another project and the original had been just dead
why they want to invest on this project with so many problems in past ?!
I can give you reasons, 1, a community is already established and distribution is completed 2, eBTC is a good name 3, takeovers involve no legal risks for illegal securities issuance There are more reasons, but those three stick out, crypto has loads of opportunities for ambitious people ... do you build a house from scratch, or renovate an existing one? Both strategies can work and give you a beautiful home! |
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I count 7 pages of posts today ... most are pointless one liners, is someone paying for thread bumping, this doesn't look good guys, too obvious.
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Stratis Favorite sidechained Bitz being delisted from Bittrex. Looks like this sleeping dragon will never wake up)
blitz yeah not looking too good for them now, i think something strange went on with that project anyway.... blitz senior members voted not to have a percentage of stratis for free apparently........ sounds legit The blitz stratis connection has been well documented and never refuted. The delisting from bittrex is a setback for blitz, but unless Chris is prepared to abandon blitz all together I think the current price drop is a big buy signal, blitz will still continue as the first sidechain of stratis regardless of bittrex listing. If I had access to my bittrex account I would be buying blitz by the handful. I agree with you, at 90%. The team don't sold any coins, the richlist is still the same and it seems that the 400k BLITZ on the market (dumped by bots and people) already were on bittrex. But there is still dome doubt remaining, the 10% left: why the sites are also down ? BLITZ is down to 1.4M market cap, which is +/- == zero in 2018. High risks, high rewards no ? It can be smart to buy some, when there's blood in the street. And, ATM, there's a TON blood in BLITZ's street Personally i sold some STRAT to buy more BLITZ. Traders with no interest in the project itself have to sell, or become a true believer in blitz and hodl. What we're seeing is bittrex day traders acting rationally, and a mega overshoot on the downside price. Just wish I could buy some, my bittrex account has been frozen for months. |
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Why dont you upload your ID, have your account verified, withdraw your coins and never come back? I think some people dont have the proper IDs to have them verified. There are some people who have multi-accounts on the site which they dont want to be caught red handed wash trading low volume coins.
I am pretty sure that's what a lot of people are doing, otherwise how to you explain the sudden drop in Bittrex market share since they started this verification scam. Remember the old adage, "only 4% of customers complain, 96% will simply go elsewhere" I see it ending either with the Bittrex shareholders screaming blue murder, and forcing management to do the right thing by the clients to stop the exodus, or Bittrex quietly fades away as more honorable exchanges take over Bittrex clients. Remember the AML, KYC cover story for suspending withdrawals on unverified accounts is bogus on two fronts. Firstly, Bittrex don't do fiat. Secondly they could move their headquarters offshore if they wanted to do fiat and skip all the nonsense. Either way, the don't have a feasible excuse for suddenly seizing their customers funds and holding them ransom until they get private information (which has value) from them. Good points, there is no justification for what bittrex have done, I refuse to hand over my personal details to people who act dishonestly , like changing terms and freezing accounts without a grace period. People who do this would also be likely to sell the user data for profit, and maybe you end up like that guy in England with 4 balaclava clad gangsters paying you and your family a visit one morning in a crypto home invasion. |
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Stratis Favorite sidechained Bitz being delisted from Bittrex. Looks like this sleeping dragon will never wake up)
blitz yeah not looking too good for them now, i think something strange went on with that project anyway.... blitz senior members voted not to have a percentage of stratis for free apparently........ sounds legit The blitz stratis connection has been well documented and never refuted. The delisting from bittrex is a setback for blitz, but unless Chris is prepared to abandon blitz all together I think the current price drop is a big buy signal, blitz will still continue as the first sidechain of stratis regardless of bittrex listing. If I had access to my bittrex account I would be buying blitz by the handful. |
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I talked in the official telegram Stratis chat room, and there they said that they had nothing to do with Blitz ... that Stratis only helped Blitz ... And on the Internet there is no information from the Blitz team for a long time !!!
Chris Trew has previously said Blitz will be the first stratis sidechain, unless HE says otherwise I think this is misinformation and/or FUD. |
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Is Factom proof of stake, can I earn some interest by staking my coins?
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I lost my tokens last September because of CURL_NOT_TRANSITIONED. I have completed the reclaim process as instructed. I haven't got them back meanwhile some others apparently have. Any inquiry (even with all the details necessary) to the Foundation contact email has been to no avail.
Someone might be led to believe that the Foundation can just take away your tokens and not even tell you why you aren't getting them back for no reason. However, I believe there is a reason for it. But what is it? Not enough people in the Foundation yet? Not enough funding to work on the issue? Tokens lost by accident? Sent to wrong people? Any other possible reasons?
I heard one guy complain in dischord that he didn't get his claim processed because he refused to donate to the big deal and foundation when it was suggested by David. That guy was later fixed up within 24 hours, so maybe he paid the donation, or maybe his revelation was sufficiently troublesome to push his case to the top of the to do list. Did you donate to foundation etc ? |
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