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2401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 26, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
Who said Kawhi - Westbrook trade first? That's bullcrap. Popovich never give up Kawhi and Westbrook is Oklahoma City legend already. After Durant's departure he's the only franchise superstar, he would never leave now.
The inevitability of losing Westbrook in free agency is looming so better find suitable trade partners for him than experience the same thing with Durant's departure to Golden State. Unfortunately, rebuilding is the only way to go for the Thunder and Westbrook will not be part of it. He could be gone even before the season begins or before the trade deadline in February.

If Westbrook goes too it's officially over for Thunder organisation next 5-10 years. They were so close to win the championship last season, only if they didn't mess up 5th game in Warriors series. Now they lost Durant and Westbrook is the only franchise player they can rely on. I don't really see a rebuilding process from that short time.
I would not really care if that happens to them because that is a great advantage for my team spurs, we know in the past that the thunder is a strong rival for the spurs and now that they don't have durant and possible westbrook also, the spurs can easily battle to the west finals.
2402  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: July 26, 2016, 01:42:41 PM
Loans are too risky if you ask for huge amount which you can't affors to repay back, or if you give loan without getting a valid collateral. Otherwise i don't think it's risky way
I think if we are a borrower and lender will extend a loan to us without any collateral then that would be in our advantage. As much as possible we should pay the amount due to have our reputation maintain in this forum, it is not easy to build such reputation and we are just going to risk for a small loan.
2403  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: July 26, 2016, 01:37:33 PM
Bitcoin will be in rise.. But you must keep your eyes on altcoins cuz the price not stable for long term...
anything might happen with the price, im afraid it can easily drop in the near future, i think i will sell all my bitcoins if i see the trend to go down

Everyone should actually do the same if they see any percent of chances of price going down again because no one can really know if what will happen in future people just predict that the price will grow but we really dont know.
At least you should not sell at the current price, the current fluctuation is just normal and I believe it will back up the soonest. Just calm down you all guys and just wait for the right time to sell your bitcoins as I have not seen any bad signs of price fall back this month.
2404  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: July 26, 2016, 01:32:25 PM
I spend my bitcoins actively i use it to top up my phone regularly,.i buy discounted game crads using bitcoin..
But now i only using my bitcoins to top up cause im saving for the christmas.
It is a good start to save today mate, it is still more or less 5 months before Christmas so I am pretty sure you will have a lot of money Christmas time
comes. Le us just hope that the halving will effect this coming christmas so we can all have a merry christmas.
2405  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 26, 2016, 12:56:06 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

i think that it is better to invest in gold or bitcoins for example as thee two have huge potential to have huge price rise in near future
i think it is different for gold, i think gold has reached the maximum point price, you can see the price of gold will be difficult to return to the price of $ 2000, maybe the price will not be more than that, and to invest in gold i think it will be quite difficult in the appeal bitcoin, im sure you will be trouble when going to buy or invest in gold with a large amount of money,,

Not really, gold is more safer than bitcoins but bitcoin provide the best opportunity even with a little amount of investment. And nowadays, bitcoins are more useful for me since I can transact online using my bitcoins and invest at the same time that is why it is great.
2406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: July 26, 2016, 12:52:33 PM
It's beyond a general trend that everyone loses in the long run: it's a mathematically provable, statistically supported fact. The house has an "edge" over you, in the long run you're going to lose money.

In opposite of this idea if you are an investor of a certain reputable site, chances are you will make more profit in the long run. That is why the house edge is favorable in gambling business everywhere.
So maybe if you want to invest instead of gamble, I suggest collect your spare BTC and see the results in the future.


Yes the house edge is always favorable in the long run in the gambling. Because it is their business, business is business.

And if we are going talk about business, gambling industry is a big business at all they just do think about the profit they are going to think.

Even their players are going to lose in the long run.


It is not like that bro,

Even house edge do think about profit, try to think the risk accompanied in playing gambling.
so in that risk or chances of losing do you think we will win i a long run?
If we based on that all we have is luck right?

So to be a good gambler and to still control or sometimes win in a long run play games that are not purely based in luck.


Yes we all know in gambling that house edge only thinks about profit and they really don't care if the gamblers or players are at risk.

A good gambler is the one who is saving any amount he does whenever he is winning in gambling. Making sure that the house is not going to

get the returns of his winning each time he is going to win.
That should not be argued, we knew already why gambling sites are operating, surely they are only into money and since they are the most profitable industry in the world, that could simply mean that gamblers are the big losers in the world.
2407  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 26, 2016, 08:57:23 AM
I think bitcoin in whole will continue on this upwards trend, but there will probably be drops during this year. I think that Bitcoin will reach around 850 but it will stabilise at around 750.


Now the price  is stable between 640$ to 660$ and it will stay the same in the starting of august and by the end of this year the highest price that bitcoin will reach is 700$ to 750$. I want that price will touches 900$ this year atleast but it will not gonna  happen due to the current situation in the market.
Even $1,000 is possible man, you just need to be more optimistic that it will happen this year. Bitcoin is just full of surprises and we never know if the price will skyrocket again and I am pretty sure the moment it will happen we are making a great profit here.
2408  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 26, 2016, 08:14:28 AM
invest it always but learn how to so you dont get burned or invest in the wrong things
yeah i think when you want to invest you should be able to do the plan or may have a strategy and do not be too force to obtain large flowers and ROI in a short time and you also have to know what investments would you use. because if you're wrong in investing probably will count against
That is a should be man, you do no invest directly without careful planning. In your plan, it should be detailed and all the necessary information shall be their, having a concrete plan will give you an ease to implement it.
Of course, this is a true statement. The investment plan is required to be clear and transparent to you. For one thing. Sometimes, especially young investors, it is difficult to understand the intricacies of the market. In this case, you can not rely only on their knowledge. You can also use services of a trusted advisor.
Your investment plan should be carefully reviewed and not only you but also for some experts so you can be sure that you have a great plan for the future. We should take that seriously as that involves money and you will get hurt when you fail on your investment.
2409  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: July 26, 2016, 08:10:49 AM
Loans doesn't seem to be risky when you get proper collateral as well user with large number of trust rate. But its truly difficult to find such users through the forum even if you create a separate thread. Also if you go through the lending most users who request for lending is newbies.
In that is the trick and the complexity of lending. If you want the most benefits, you must sometimes take risks. But risks must be justified. No loans are not familiar faces. For which no one can guarantee. And you will be happy. And too much collateral, you will scare away, all clients.
Too much collateral and you cannot get any client, it should just be the right amount of collateral that would commensurate the loan amount. Remember that a person when in need with give all the collateral just to have a loan but when he really cannot pay in the end he will not pay.
2410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: July 26, 2016, 08:03:42 AM
Of course I would continue gambling when I am rich. Why not? I have the money then =)

For me it's a game, you win / you lose. It's about the up and downs in between that give the fun.

Of course don't bet so much than you could end poor again.
Me also i still gamble, because i am rich i have a lot of money and it will gives me 100% entertainment and i do not afraid to lose. And i think the gamblers is already a rich people.
Good for you mate, you gamble because you are rich, how I wonder why you are still working for a signature here. LOL

Maybe that was just your way of supporting and you don't need the money that was paid in promoting the site.
2411  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 26, 2016, 06:42:04 AM
Getting rich is very hard you will need perseverance to achieve your goal. It requires you to have a multiple source of income the number 1 is you need to have a stable business which have a potential to grow the other is to have a multiple investments.

Reaching that goal would be hard and it takes time to achieve of being rich in future. If youre wise enough and make do a lot of work or business maybe its possible it only depends how you plan or managed your life that makes you profitable. Thinking to the future, do savings everytime  and dont waste every penny you made and think of business that would give you leverage income.
We should start from the bottom, we do that hard work now if we are not born rich, that would help us to develop our skills and our attitude towards work. The strategy are written all over the internet but if you do not have the will and the capital to have your own business you will never be rich.
2412  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 26, 2016, 06:37:47 AM
Bitcoin has been rising up this past few weeks and continue to rise, what do you think?
will bitcoin continue to rise at the end of the month or it will have a sudden drop?

I think the price will drop a little after the halving but will rise up as Time goes on.
Think positive mate, we need a profit that is why we are hoping for the price hike. This time price of bitcoin is stable and when the massive adoption of bitcoin happens i think there is a big movement of the price.
Everyday there are new adopters but it was just that the price is manipulated very hard but don't worry guys time will come that price can no longer be manipulated by the whales and it will just increase as the demand is high.
2413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to sell? Or to buy? on: July 26, 2016, 06:34:09 AM
What do you guys think?
Since the price keeps going lower the whole day.

Also why is it going lower ?

Just because of the people who want to sell rather than buying. If the sellers are more bigger than the buyers, literally the price will be lowered. But if the buyers are bigger than the sellers, then that's the only time the price will be higher. The price of bitcoin varies about the investors. Sometimes, other people also stocks some bitcoin in their wallets and after some time, they would rather sell it when the price is so high. So that's a good idea to gain profit.
As of now the price is very stable because most of the users now are keep holding and hoping for the pumping of price and also the whales are waiting for the massive adoption to have moving of its price.

We can see the price of bitcoin is stable after the halving event and as of now it gets lower. You are right that price depends on supply and demand of bitcoin investors these are the things which really affects the price of bitcoin and some are still holding it waiting for the big pump just like what happen in previous years.
While there are some manipulation that is happening but with the continuous adoption of the new player in the market, the price will eventually increase and no one can prevent that from happening so we just need to be patient at this moment.
2414  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 26, 2016, 06:31:15 AM
invest it always but learn how to so you dont get burned or invest in the wrong things


Well before you are going to invest make sure that you are sincere in investing and you have think it many times before you are going to enter.
Because it is very risky if you are going to invest your money. And you don't have savings at all, or better do some savings first and after saving enough amount then go for investment.
That should be the right thing to do and that is the principle of investment, never go all in even if the investment is really that nice that guarantees that it would give you a good return in the future because there is still chances of failure and we should reserve that thing in our investment plan.
2415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: July 26, 2016, 06:28:54 AM
iam not cacculated gambling to rich
iam play gamble only hapy fun
whatever win or lost iam still happy and fun
It totally depends on how much your bet and who your opponents are. Yes I still get fun when lose if I playing with my friends and bet low amount of money. But when playing against strangers, it's all about pride. I mean, I'm not happy if someone whom I don't know wins my money lol.
You will have a good chance when you are playing against your friends because as the saying goes , knowing the game will only give your 50% chances but knowing your opponent will give you more chances to win than just knowing the game alone.
2416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: July 26, 2016, 06:22:33 AM
iam not cacculated gambling to rich
iam play gamble only hapy fun
whatever win or lost iam still happy and fun
It totally depends on how much your bet and who your opponents are. Yes I still get fun when lose if I playing with my friends and bet low amount of money. But when playing against strangers, it's all about pride. I mean, I'm not happy if someone whom I don't know wins my money lol.
You will have a good chance when you are playing against your friends because as the saying goes , knowing the game will only give your 50% chances but knowing your opponent will give you more chances to win than just knowing the game alone.
2417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: July 26, 2016, 06:08:01 AM
There's no strategy for gambling, its 100% LUCK!
The only games what don't need luck is poker, black jack etc etc. but I don't think that's called gambling
yes that is a fact and tha is the reason that no one can say any thing about it in advance that how much can he earn in gambling in advance. i think it is a game of luck and luck is the master.

When there's money involved that will be always be called gambling. You can win or lose in that game, and for me that is not 100% luck, maybe 70% of it (estimated), and luck in gambling is depend of what game that you are playing, some gambling games needs  strategy to win, and some game needs luck for you to win.
To win in gambling in the long run you only need at least 10% of luck and the 90% should be your skills in gambling to win. Remember that consistency is the only key to success to win in the long run and you cannot have that relying on your luck alone.
2418  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 26, 2016, 05:05:45 AM
Don't ever go all in on something, in life, in gambling and in bitcoin. It is way too risky, if bitcoin crashes you are screwed. Maybe get a part time job + investing in bitcoin.

I say life is full or risks its about minimizing the risk you choose.

So the view is already flawed in some sense - but just know if you work at a job you are helping somones empire to be bigger then your own.


I agree on it, that life is full of risks. It is going to depend on you on how you are going to manage the risk you are going to accept.
But of course if bitcoin is giving you more income rather than your daily job then it is better to exchange to it.
Or if not work at the same with bitcoin and your day job.
Yeah! that should be the right action, if we feel that bitcoins is giving us more income than our real job or day job we should focus more on our time with it. It is good to work with bitcoin because we are in control of our time and our earnings is not limited only.
For me i do not want to quit on my job and depending on bitcoin because i treat bitcoin as my other bonus and i do it in my spare time after my office hours. But if bitcoin is have assurance in the future i will think double.
Doing bitcoin as your side job and treating it as your bonus is great because it does not demand much of your time to accomplish your task to earn bitcoins, your job is very important especially when you belong to a country that gives a good rate of salary.

Having a stable day job is better rather than focusing you all time on bitcoin. Stable job would give you stable income or salary but in bitcoin  price is unstable for you to focus on it unless your having  hard time of finding a job then you can focus your time on bitcoin if you would make a steady income out of it but i would say to have a stable job is better in any ways.
Your job will give you security but limits you opportunity to earn, in bitcoin you can earn big amount but it is also risky. I think that is just a fair type of opportunity and would depend on individual on what path he will choose.

The risk takers will surely choose bitcoin.
2419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: July 26, 2016, 04:54:01 AM
It's best to only gamble for entertainment and to limit yourself in how much you can use. If you set rules for yourself and stick to them, gambling can be fun.
We should because that is the only way we will have no problem with gambling. Gamblers should always remember to gamble for fun and make sure to follow the proper bankroll management and to set a lose that is manageable.
True mistake many people is to assume that gambling can create income. If they think like that they would be greedy and continue to bet for looking for a win in gambling continuously. If you want to gamble should aim to have fun, if you win it lucky and if you lose it's not luck. That would limit gaming well.
Usually only the newbies would assume that it can increase their income but when they are experiencing that they are losing in gambling in the long run, they will realize that it is really hard to treat gambling seriously for money. Gambling should be for fun only.
2420  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: July 25, 2016, 08:34:54 AM
I have 1 btc in wallet which is I am saving for future hoping that I can make good profits from it in future as price will definitely go higher in future

I have some bitcoin in my cold wallet. I will use some of them to buy things so that it will help circulation.
I think you need to add more, but I guess one BTC was already quite a lot. This time I did not keep bitcoin in my wallet, because yesterday I was using it for a purpose. I guess I'll go back to collect bitcoin, and hopefully I can keep it longer, because if I have the bitcoin wallet, very difficult to keep him in a long time  Grin
You just need to consider investing as an important act that you need to follow now, bitcoins will surely be big in the future that is why believers on it are working hard to save bitcoins.

It does not matter how you can save as long as you have continued saving bitcoins because in the end the value will just be determine with the price. Just put in mind that save only what you can afford to lose as there is a possibility also that you can lose all your savings.
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