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24101  Local / Новости / Re: Регуляторы видят ценность Биткойна on: November 19, 2013, 09:21:38 PM
а вы что, так еще и не поняли в чем разница между обеспечением(наполнением) и пузырем?

Разница конечно мало заметна, но в одном случае вы едите пельмени из свинины и ничем не рискуете
даже если вложитесь и забудете следить за котировками,
а в другом случае вы едите пельмени из человечены и можете сами пойти на мясо!
Есть разница?

Позвольте, а как же квадриллион долларов финансовых деривативов? Grin
В чём правда, брат? Cool
24102  Local / Новости / Re: биржа убийств on: November 19, 2013, 09:17:26 PM
Но банковские аккаунты не смотря на SSL они тока так посмотрят, имейте ввиду!
Судя по всему перехватывается траффик между россией и кипром)

Всё намного проще и SSL здесь совершенно не при чём. Если международные платежи осуществляются в долларах США (посредством SWIFT), то все транзакции проходят через корреспондентские счета, открытые банками в американских банках. Поэтому потенциально США могут отследить практически любой доллар проходящий через банковскую систему даже другой страны...Grin

Насчёт евро не в курсе, но думаю, что принципиально всё тоже самое! Cool
24103  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bitcoin isn't currency. on: November 19, 2013, 09:04:28 PM
I'd say he's just plain old confused (or dishonest, but I'll apply Hanlon's razor on this one).

Yes, bitcoins are not physical substances. But that's not part of the definition of money or currency.

Strictly speaking, he is not even correct on the units which are defined by some physical metric. If we take his own example ("an inch is not real but it is definable"), it turns out that this very metric of space (length) is not constant but increasing with time through the expansion of the Universe (i.e. the scale of space itself is changed). So his inch is by no means fixed or definable... Grin
24104  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bitcoin Faucet where you can get upto 0.4 BTC every hour **NEW PROMO** on: November 19, 2013, 08:18:19 PM
Max win increased to 0.3 BTC and other values increased correspondingly.
Also the bonus has been switched back to 0.0005 BTC!


Much better now! Grin
24105  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bitcoin isn't currency. on: November 19, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
What does make it more valid is the intrinsic value of bitCON is not as a currency, but as a speculative ponzi scheme. This is mathematically unarguable.

I didn't get your point, please expand more on this  Huh
24106  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bitcoin isn't currency. on: November 19, 2013, 08:02:27 PM
Gold is not a quantity.

"One ounce of gold" is a quantity. "One ounce of gold" is a unit.

So is "one BTC of bitcoin", though.

Maybe he was referring to gold being physical substance, thus being definable not only in abstract units ("one BTC of bitcoin") but also by some real "yardstick" (e.g. in units of weight)? Though this still doesn't make his stance on money more valid...  Cool
24107  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 1.2BTC/month just by posting! on: November 19, 2013, 05:45:54 PM
What does my post have to do with your answer? Please explain yourself, maybe I'm missing something... Wink

Exactly as it's stated. TheNewAnton asked whether there was news about the new prices. You reacted with 'No news'. But there was news, just above the replies of you both. And that's the part I quoted (I'll sort the remainder out tomorrow and determiner the new rates.), which means that Stunna will determine the new rates tomorrow.

Actually, there was no news about new prices (the post you're referring to says nothing about new prices) and this was only part of my answer for one of the questions. In short, you'd better stop spamming... Grin
24108  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 1.2BTC/month just by posting! on: November 19, 2013, 05:31:08 PM
Any news about the new prices? If they change after enrolling, do you get the old or new payout?

No news yet. I think we should all be thankful to Stunna for keeping the old prices during the last campaign. Asking him to keep the old payout just because you had enrolled before the new price was announced borders, in my opinion, on impudence... Cool

check post #608 its by Stuna hope you understand all

Me understand what? Shocked
24109  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 1.2BTC/month just by posting! on: November 19, 2013, 05:29:55 PM
Any news about the new prices? If they change after enrolling, do you get the old or new payout?

No news yet. I think we should all be thankful to Stunna for keeping the old prices during the last campaign. Asking him to keep the old payout just because you had enrolled before the new price was announced borders, in my opinion, on impudence... Cool

It's just a few posts above yours.. Start reading guys.

What does my post have to do with your answer? Please explain yourself, maybe I'm missing something... Wink
24110  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 1.2BTC/month just by posting! on: November 19, 2013, 05:07:39 PM
Any news about the new prices? If they change after enrolling, do you get the old or new payout?

No news yet. I think we should all be thankful to Stunna for keeping the old prices during the last campaign. Asking him to keep the old payout just because you had enrolled before the new price was announced borders, in my opinion, on impudence... Cool
24111  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bitcoin Faucet where you can get upto 0.2 BTC every hour **NEW PROMO** on: November 19, 2013, 04:54:36 PM
It seems that you are on a very slim margin or running out of coins...  Cool

Better to make changes before I run out than after Wink

Reducing the payouts to nothing wouldn't be fun at all! Grin
24112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the crash? Seriously on: November 19, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
No, we shouldn't. Suffice it would be to measure the size of the BTC economy in money terms Wink
Money terms?

Instead of polling the forum we could easily track the size of the BTC economy (number of coins times BTC exchange rate) for the past few years... Cool
24113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the crash? Seriously on: November 19, 2013, 03:59:19 PM
As for the masses, they're more than welcome to join in, buy and hold for a couple of years.

That's what I'm talking about. The price shouldn't be very high per unit, so your average Joe could ultimately afford it (even if he actually buys only a small portion of a unit), and at the same time it shouldn't be very low, so he could feel the weight of his investment and be happy about it Cool
24114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the crash? Seriously on: November 19, 2013, 03:43:15 PM
Few and far between? Perhaps we should poll the forum.

No, we shouldn't. Suffice it would be to measure the size of the BTC economy in money terms Wink
24115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the crash? Seriously on: November 19, 2013, 03:17:06 PM
A few years? Anyone who has held bitcoins for even 2 years has profited quite well.

Those were few and far in between (in relative terms indeed). I mean Bitcoin for the masses... Roll Eyes
24116  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the crash? Seriously on: November 19, 2013, 03:00:21 PM
I agree, the kind of money we are seeing at this point isn't coming from the average joe. Some people are cashing in by dropping in big amounts and buying backs but we saw that a few times in the last few days. This one was just a bigger one.

The good news are overwhelming at this point with bitcoin. The bubble will keep inflating for a while. I am not saying it won't blow at a point, but I don't feel we have reached that point yet.

People need some asset which could be a safe investment/haven for at least a few years like gold was. But now gold is discredited (in price terms), so it's an easy guess that the price might reach around 2000$ (as gold was once heading up to). It's all throughout human psychology Cool
24117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the crash? Seriously on: November 19, 2013, 02:50:16 PM
My pure speculation. Price stays where it is -- at least above or maybe even slightly below yesterday's vwap -- for a day or two, regroups, and then pushes higher.

It will be like the one final orgasmic thrust. It will be glorious. Smiley

Yeah, balls to the wall! Grin
24118  Local / Новости / Re: Регуляторы видят ценность Биткойна on: November 19, 2013, 02:36:21 PM
Про пакости - всё понятно. Как ни крути, а отследить-поймать большинство из нас можно. Для примера можно тот же доклад про поимку DPR читать... Дык ведь пипл-то, как я смотрю, массово боится какого-то мифического принуждения и карательного контроля поголовно.

Да не нужен он, этот карательный поголовный контроль - достаточно изолировать особо буйных, которых относительно немного... Ну проведут пару показательных расстрелов (условно), остальные задумаются, а надо ли оно им - по-взрослому играть в рулетку прятки с государством... Cool
24119  Local / Новости / Re: биржа убийств on: November 19, 2013, 11:32:03 AM

Преступление и наказание... Grin
24120  Local / Новости / Re: Регуляторы видят ценность Биткойна on: November 19, 2013, 11:07:10 AM
Мне непонятно, почему люди так боятся каких-то там разработчиков офклиента, как будто они центральный сервер держат.
Ну внесут они в него "следилку", часть сообщества радостно примет её и завопят о легализации и светлом будущем.
Другая часть сообщества не примет. Кто-то самый смелый и уважаемый форкнет клиента без "следилки", поменяет порты, поставит чекпоинт на какой-то блок, "непримиримые" перейдут на этот форк, в котором уже будет блокчейн за четыре года, до чекпоинта. Ну поколбасит в начале обе валюты, и чо, сообществу не привыкать.

Ну т.е. пусть сенат/АНБ/ФБР/ктотамещё хочет регулировать, наблюдать... За всеми не уследят.

Ну всё же не стоит "сенат/АНБ/ФБР/ктотамещё" совсем за идиотов держать... Если не будет смысла в открытую запрещать, никто так делать и не станет (в этом месте почему-то сразу Россия-матушка вспомнилась и все её беды Grin), скорее стоит ожидать какой-нибудь особо хитрой, продуманной пакости... Cool
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