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2421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 21, 2016, 10:40:44 PM
Empoli vs Inter
Genoa vs Napoli 
Juventus vs Cagliari   
AS Roma vs Crotone   

big four last season inter napoli roma juventus , all win this match
as roma , juventus and inter milan did their job very well to keep on the champion track by winning with a confident score enough. as roma won 4-0 to crotone juventus also won 4-0 to cagliari , inter milan won 2-0 to empoli . unfortunately napoli seems struggle play against genoa away , they just get draw and it's clearly not enough.
2422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 21, 2016, 10:25:45 PM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!
yes , i had gained much profit from gambling . i got my btc at first at faucets gambking site freebitco.in that was a awesome time for me . with single bet and with high risk i betted will all faucet collections and i got 0.001 btc . but at the same time the auto withdrawal sended my btc to my wallet .
otherwise i will continue my bet .

one day you would realize how fool you are spent a lot of times collecting useless faucet when a lot of better job to do out there , some people rely on faucet to earn bitcoin at first time they know about bitcoin but you can't do it forever in your life right? and then even you gamble from your faucet earning who earned with hard work , just ruin your life instead help your life.

well I think most of us learn from experience specially with gambling. in the long run you'll realize that there are much more better things to spend your money at.
I agree, when we lose in gambling, after a while of playing we will think the amount of what we lose then think again and just ask yourself why should I not buy some stuffs that is more usable than betting in that gambling site or gambling houses? right? We cannot deny the fact that we are also thinking like that. 
it's called a regret , i hope you didn't experience something like this , a wrong decision leading to a terrible situation. as i said before instead help your life gambling would just ruin everything in your life. as long as you have made decision in right time to stop gamble when you are in profit , gambling might helpful with the amount wyou have won.
2423  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 20, 2016, 03:15:43 PM
Leicester Vs Chelsea

I would bet on Chelsea to win. Leicester form is not very good after a fairy tale Premier League last season. I am only worried about Chelsea's leaking defense lately. If Kante plays, it would be a major boost for Chelsea as he was one of the best Leicester players last season. He would know his former teammates well.
not true, chelsea suffering lost 1-2 to liverpool in last match while leicester won 3-0 confidently over burnley. leicester team morale are gaining now and chelsea dropped , i expect a draw result in the normal time of 90 minutes. and under 2.5 goals Smiley
2424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 20, 2016, 03:07:01 PM
there is no doubt for me to take the match between AC Milan vs Lazio, the final result will be a draw. Lazio is better than AC Milan, but Milan did not want to lose at home, so the draw was a decent result.
both lazio and ac milan are in bad form recently , a statistics says that ac milan and lazio are the most inconsistent teams with ac milan = 5 games , 3 wins 2 lost and lazio = 2 wins , 2 draws and 1 lost. according to the above statistics , i guess ac milan have a better chance to win the game , i don't think this would be draw.
2425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: September 20, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
No strategy works in the long run, all the strategies fly away and we are left with losses in the end.
I am still gambling on smaller bets with higher odds on soccer games, as there are possibilities of such games to turn out a winning one for me.
I make much bigger with my bets and can afford to lose few against them until I get into a 1:1 position.
risking small money to get high return are a good betting strategy but you have a very small chance to win it too , it's not worth for you to make money through gambling but it's morelikely should treated as a fun bet only , i know there is someone in my place bet $15 with an odds over 1100x on his betting slip , and he won it! he never expect his bet will win but he just got lucky. so , any strategy shouldn't called a winning strategy right? just an ordinary strategy
2426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 20, 2016, 02:48:51 PM
Investing money is much better than gambling.
When you gambling, you play against the HE, when you invest, you play with the HE Smiley

Investment is a better option, albeit you still have a chance of losing everything even if you invest in the House Edge if someone's luck is enough to get a good gain gambling on that site wherever you have invested your coins...

If you are not lucky with gambling even you are going to invest in the house edge. Then it is better if you are just going to focus in investment and you are going to focus with it or else if you think you are good with both of it. Then you are going to enjoy investing while you are gambling but make sure you are able to manage your money.
the things between investment and gambling are risk involved , and sure the lower risk you take then you will have a high possibility to earn profit , in this case investment have a lower risk than gambling yeah everyone know it . so it's pretty simple to decided , investment are better than gambling , especially if you invested on bitcoin.
2427  Other / Archival / Re:   on: September 19, 2016, 10:56:12 PM
yes i have paypal account but i more often to use bitcoin after i knew about bitcoin, but i still keep my paypal account cause they legal and i can use for some transaction who not accepted bitcoin
I had used paypal before i know bitcoin, nowadays, i had left my paypal even they being a good option to buy anywhere anytime, but their fees are high, im inlove of bitcoin and i dont believe i will return to paypal.
are you sure? as what i experienced are there's a lot of marketplace not yet accept bitcoin , and hard to find an alternate to buy everything using bitcon , for example i want to buy a game on origin but since they are strickly not accept bitcoin but paypal then i stiil need to use paypal , there is no other option , i believe in bitcoin but nowadays bitcoin didn't convincing enough for many merchants.
2428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 19, 2016, 10:48:28 PM
All the online news agencies have been bashing Manchester United after that shameful defeat at Watford but honestly I don't think the footballers and the coach are to blame. Mourinho bought a lot of expensive players and thought individual class would bring success but if there is no cohesion in the team United won't find their winning ways again. Leicester did the impossible with modest players but the teamwork was on point unlike United at the moment.
yeah manchester united new players should adapt faster and get the 'cohesion' later , just like what pep guardiola did at manchester city , there are so many new face new players but they adapt smoothly without problem and pep got 5 winning streak in league , not sure if you can't blame the coach? it's clearly something wrong on mourinho side i guess.
2429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: September 19, 2016, 10:38:18 PM
if counting from the start of play, may not be counted. but every day I play with what I can afford to lose. around 0.001-0.01BTC
you can lose a lot of money, i play from time to time to be honest and yesterday i lost 0.002 bitcoin though i played only for entertainment
For me also same if I count from the first day of my gambling I don't know how much I lost. But my recent progress is I lost around 0.02 BTC in sports betting. I lost my bet in Football match, and It was expected match so I placed a high bet on that match. My bad luck finals minutes I lost my game. 0.02 BTC is high amount I don't know when I will get this amount back.
everyone wouldn't able to find how much themselves got lost and got a winning. unless they used bankroll management and all the things are recorded / written well since beginning you gamble , very rare. but i can say people should forget the losses it's could hurt you later. just foorget it and move forward.
2430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 19, 2016, 10:31:54 PM
The only thing that I can think of is by just go out and looking for a other hobby that is going to help you for sure if you manage to find the right one for you.
If that does not help then you will have to get some help from a professional.


Only hobby is not working, if you find the alternate from which you can make some coins then you can say that you are able to stay away from gambling because people are addicted to gambling just because of money that they win from placing bet. So if you find another activity to earn coins then you can easily stay away from gambling.
bitcoin nowadays introduced as the best payment choice for people to gamble online , and it's affected so much to bitcoin user to get addicted to gambling , and yeah i agree if you addicted to gamble because you are pushed to looking for bitcoin with in gambling way , then you need to get alternate way to distract you fro gambling , there is many way like doing solo mining , configure it all day long , blogging and earn bitcoin through bitcoin ads etc.
2431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: September 19, 2016, 10:24:30 PM
Alaves of 3-match unbeaten and two of them against Barcelona win, and with Atletico Madrid draw.
really good to take Alaves ML with high odds @2.3
they are unbeatable so far , but they too much get draw too , 3 games out of 4 total games ended up draw first match against atletico madrid 1-1 draw , against sporting gijon 0-0 and now they got draw again 0-0 , the only surprising winning are when they beat barcelona at camp nou. alaves just an ordinary promoted team i think , nothing more , they just got a very lucky winning against barcelona.
2432  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: September 19, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
i think there is no fun in gambling if you are loosing money, and if you are making money or winning in gambling then you can really enjoy gambling, most of the people think that they play gambling for fun only but to me if there is no money involve in gambling its mean that there is no fun in it.
they mean gambling for fun doesn't mean there is no money involved , without money staked something shouldn't called as gambling , most people who think gambling are really for entertaining only are those people who have gamble for years and full of experience , they know what exactly they are doing , and they really enjoy it no matter what.
2433  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: September 18, 2016, 02:32:47 PM
From my perspective, trading  bitcoins or altcoins can be considered  as gambling, with a much  lower level of risk, of course. When i trade i'm researching coins same as some  sports gambler research football  teams. In both cases it's gamble  if you don't have some reliable insider info..
if you compared trading with sports betting yeah it's makes sense both are requiered some research to maximize your chance to win and get profit but if you compare trading with a casino games like blackjack, roulette , lotterry , slots machine , dice etc could you still call it as same thing as trading ? no of course not.

even if you are comparing trading with those gambling games that require skills more than luck like betting on sports, there is still a lot of big differences between gambling and trading.

because although there is so little need to luck in trading, there is a lot of luck needed in gambling even if you are gather information on the sports and making a good bet, you are still risking a lot.
so the point are trading are not gambling . but sometimes in trading you need to gamble on uncertain situation. as most of the times trading are about to predict the price based on multiple factor and gambling morelikely to a pure guessing based on nothing except sports betting of course.
2434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 18, 2016, 02:15:04 PM
I gamble for fun mostly, I play poker so there is a chance that if I become really good I could see some profit but right now I am not at that level.
Oh, my close friends tell me totally different story, they say that the only reason they play poker is because they are good and they want to make money, they also said there is no fun at all ( when I asked if I should learn this game ) . Anyways its good you are playing for fun, but make sure you are not addicted.

if you play in gambling everyday, it will make you become addicted.
you are playing for fun, but if you had lost of money
you would think it to get profit.

if you are gambling everyday without any pause then you are an addict regardless of you losing money or not. because no normal person in the world has enough time for fun of gambling and never enough money to always keep having the fun of gambling and he is fooling himself if he does it every single day.
people treat and consider gambling as hobby and it's make they do it frequently and due gambling are an addictive thing , people gamble more often than the real hobby like playing music etc. people should gamble as occasional activty , not daily activity. with this way you can gamble for fun.
2435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: September 18, 2016, 02:09:01 PM
Espanyol vs Real Madrid for this match I have my bet on Real Madrid ML, I am pretty sure it will be easy for Real Madrid to get 3 points there, even Real Madrid will play without Ronaldo and Bale but it's still nice side and know how to handle Espanyol into this clash.
really a nice odds for real madrid to win over espanyol today it's around @1.5 , the odds are higher than usual due real madrid confirming duo cristiano ronaldo and gareth bale would miss the game as for the fitness reason. real madrid should be fine without them but the game might have a little amount of goal only .
2436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 18, 2016, 01:51:39 PM
What the hell is happening with MU, I cant believe they lost with such score against a low quality team Watford. Three losses in a row already for Mourinho, it tells us that a team can be build just with huge money. Pogba as the most expensive player in this world, does not even show that he worth that amount. The other new players also show nothing so far, only Ibra showed something promising at the beginning of the season but slowly but sure he is just like other players.
Mou should do something if he do not want to be sacked out earlier, but I hope he will be sacked out because I dont like him far away before he manage MU. IMHO he is not fit to MU, I would prefer to see Giggs as the manager.

got a nice odds on live betting when the score at 80' still 1-1 , it's around @11 ! and watford did it , sealed the winning goal in the last minutes through penalty 3-1 for watford and mourinho should worry now after this losing streaks. he is not special one anymore if he can't control the current situation.
2437  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Micro-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: September 18, 2016, 01:27:06 PM
as discussed via PM earlier

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kindly send the coins here 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM

Thanks Zazarb
signature verified, amount sent:

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I have funded the Loan in the amount of 0.5 BTC to poplolnman via txid
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Please repay
according to the following schedule:

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0.125+BTC  18th Sept,
0.125+BTC  2nd Oct,
0.125+BTC  17th Oct,



 to following address: 1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
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the first repayment sent

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Next three repayments will be made in :

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Thankyou mate!
The second repayment sent

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2438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: September 15, 2016, 09:42:19 AM
Manchester City vs Borussia Monchengladbach. I pick over 3 goals and Manchester City -1 goal.
FC Porto vs FC Copenhagen. I pick over 2.5 goals and FC Porto spread.
manchester city are on fire lately 4 games in league and all ended up win for manchester city it's played at home and away , i just looking for a point that manchester city would lost finally , i'll try to put my small money on Borussia Monchengladbach to win @8.3 and both teams to score @1.7 .

Monchengladbach to win @8.3  is very risky, manchester city is a very great team, they beat manchester united last weekend, pep guardiola enhanced the MC's level.
i was totally wrong about the match between manchester city and Borussia Monchengladbach , both teams not scored as gladbach get dropped metality in the early minutes , aguero play so fantastic as usual with another hattrick in champions league. i think manchester city would be a major contender for real madrid, barcelona and bayern munich to win champions league under pep guardiola.
2439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: September 15, 2016, 09:04:31 AM
The 3rd pick for this week will be from the game between RCD Espanyol  v Real Madrid


This event can be quickly accessed here : https://sportsbet.io/sports/live/soccer/spain/primera-division/rcd-espanyol-barcelona-v-real-madrid/event/9769211?ref=tipster6

Match: RCD Espanyol  v Real Madrid
Pick: Espanyol +1.5
Odds: @1.89
Stake: 15.00 mBTC
Potential Win :27 mBTC




After 3 wins in the league and huge win in the champions, Real should slow a little bit as happening in every season.

too early to placed bet on this match , it's weekend match and from now to the match would started there could be something unexpected happened like an injury for espanyol key player?lsoing their best defenders? leading to a weak defensive line and real madrid could keep the current winning team to play against espanyol and created a lot of goals then? i'll avoid this kind bet but however goodluck Smiley
2440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 15, 2016, 08:32:46 AM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!
yes , i had gained much profit from gambling . i got my btc at first at faucets gambking site freebitco.in that was a awesome time for me . with single bet and with high risk i betted will all faucet collections and i got 0.001 btc . but at the same time the auto withdrawal sended my btc to my wallet .
otherwise i will continue my bet .

one day you would realize how fool you are spent a lot of times collecting useless faucet when a lot of better job to do out there , some people rely on faucet to earn bitcoin at first time they know about bitcoin but you can't do it forever in your life right? and then even you gamble from your faucet earning who earned with hard work , just ruin your life instead help your life.
I hope he will realize soon because I know some of us started with collecting faucets and we grow and learn that there better ways to earn money online that we do not need to spend a lot of our time.
he would , we did something stupid in the past sometimes it's okay. people thinking too far away about gambling could make a significant influence to their wonderful life , gambling didn't help and changes someone life better, on the contrary gambling mess up someone life.
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