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1621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: March 31, 2017, 10:47:10 AM
Yes, I use analysis for gambling, that I did for this kind of sports gambling such as soccer, NBA, boxing, F1 and many more. Without the analysis surely will make me often lose.

We really need analysis even in deciding whether we will play or not, if we will bet or not and if we will continue when we lose. Analysis in terms of playing whether to bet that amount especially if we think its our day and the momentum attracts. Analysis in sports betting is really in need, while in cards or dice we depend on luck mostly.
Gambling really need analization to decide when to bets and when to place big amount to win big but sometimes you can easily know in odds of the game where the most low odds is about to win the game 70% im agreed in luck when playing is dice game not only for those skilled players or master or even v.i.p is loosing too.
lol if you say so then there must be a lot of people get profit and a lot of bookies bankrupt , gambling not working with that way. low odds doesn't mean you will win , having higher chance on bigger percentage doesn't guarantee you anything to win , everything done randomly in gambling , even with 99 percentage to win you still have a chance to lost , i have lost on that 99 percent chance when the roll are on 00.00 , super unlucky right? analysis sometimes work , but also sometimes not , just makes sure you gamble with the amount you can afford to lose no matter if you use analysis or not.

It is true that even with 99% you wont always winning the game and usually high odds got a bad payment, so its better used your analytic skill to win at better odds, good analysis could help you choose better team to win although is not always correct but it can make your winning chance bigger
you mean to place a bet on sportsbetting based on your own data analysis? because i don't think you can analysis a game like dice or slot machine , it's 100% pure luck games , you can't find any data to analyze and expect better chance to win there. no matter what you do to gamble with or without analysis , you have responsibly on it.
You would really be like a crazy man on trying hard on making analysis on pure luck based games like dice and slots which do normally know that these games does purely rely on luck and results are pure random which means analysis here wont really work at all no matter how hard you try.
yeah even i still can see a lot of people believe anything can be analyzed include those pure luck based games , let them go lol . analysis just part of our effort to maximize the chance to win right? so believe or not an analysis before certain event play on sportsbetting are really necessary to do for me personally. sometimes play poker and some card games used analysis too, but not as important as when you place a bet on sports that full of data.
1622  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINROYALE.COM • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Bonus • 2 BTC Blackjack Tournament! (new) on: March 31, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Does there a minimum deposit to join the tournament? Can I join with as low as 0.005 btc ? One week is actually quite long however it is really worth the prize if you could get atleast top 3

To qualify for prizes, player must play a minimum of 100 Rounds, wagering a minimum of 0.025 BTC playing for real BTC in the FOR REAL mode.
In my understanding this is a yes. You can join with any amount, provided that you'll wager 0.025 in all of your games. This can be done with ease if manage to keep you win ratio at 50%.

Well I visited the site like a long time ago and I didnt recall whats their minimum bet however I remembered that it is along the line of 10k satoshis. So even if you wager 10k satoshis at one time, you are going to get that minimum requirement in just 250 rounds, given that you are going to play for a whole week

This could be very funny if we bet 10k sat per round, and 250 rounds*10k =0.025 btc to qualify the tournament. Since this is a win % rule, not the most winning in btc scheme. Many people can join it.
that's true , i personally still a little bit confused with the current tournament rules. are we start with 0.025 as bankroll or how? also is it a must to register ourselves for the tournament before it's get started? or we can register anytime even during the live tournament period? and are we allowed to play with deposit bonus in this tournament? because it seems here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1845325.msg18359621#msg18359621 it's allowed just not clear.
1623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: March 31, 2017, 10:21:15 AM
I mostly bet only on sports matches and my max bet size is 0.01BTC which i can afford to loss. I think i am going to loss one of my bet on current test series between IND and AUS.  Angry

I can afford to loss around 0.01BTC on every alternative day.
That's really good to bet 0.01BTC every alternate day. I have lost a maximum of about 0.25 BTC in a single gambling event. Losing is just a part of gambling, none will be successful or earning without a single loss. I think above mate might have placed betting upon Australia to win the match.
Well, its a good thing that you disciplined yourself to maximize your loss at 0.01BTC I admired you to that matter. while me it was 0.03BTC which I can afford to lose in. Cheesy

I won more than 0.05BTC with only 0.01BTC. I guess the luck was with me that day as I have lost so many times in the past. I just stopped myself and spent all the winnings in my own..  Grin

That is very lucky! If you multiply your base bank roll by 100 percent you are already lucky. If you make it to times five then you are extremely  lucky. I don't have the same faith as you bro, congrats. Usually I just lose my bank roll, but can't really blame it on my luck because usually I just do martin gale, even if I know it doesn't really work.
beleieve me that kind luck wouldn't come to you everytime , so you have to make sure you didn't get lured by that nice winning. always control over yourself don't be greedy and stay safe. as once you get lost even for small amount only you would have a feeling to get back to play until you find yourself in deep deep lost more than your previous winning.
1624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: March 30, 2017, 12:25:07 PM
I actually sit in the middle whether to go for yes or no as to preference for slot games because I just have the feeling that the machine has been configured for me to lose and there is nothing I can really do about it and because of that I try as much as possible to stay away but sometimes when I am bored, I tried to take a look at t and give my luck a run at it.
everyone would feel disappointed when have to play against super high odds , super high house edge game like slot. get used to it as the real winner in this game rare happened , but once it's hit the jackpot you could become a millionaire in single night. so you have to make sure gamble in this game shouldn't expect anything , you have to play nothing to lose and put small amount only for the sake of looking for luck.
1625  Economy / Economics / Re: How Bitcoin will reach $2000 to $10000 in 2017 and $100k by 2026. on: March 30, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
That is not possible to reach like 10k$. We need to understand various global scenarios as well to determine this. Now India is planning to ban bitcoin and its going to make the rate stumble to an extent in coming time.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/use-of-bitcoin-illegal-can-attract-anti-money-laundering-law/articleshow/57874230.cms
i think every single country especially third world countries would always have a thought to ban bitcoin due they didn't ready yet to accept newest technology like bitcoin , people there have no time to think forward for future they always left 10-20 years behind when talking about advanced technology, they would feel insecure as result ban are the answer for them. i don't think that issue could have huge impact globally to the bitcoin price now or later.

It is not about third world countries banning because they don't want to accept technology. Every country wants to innovate and better their society. The problem is that their politicians don't want. They want to keep the status quo. We cannot deny that there is really great corruption in third world countries, that is why they don't want to move to something that is traceable.
yeah they feel threatened by the presence of bitcoin if it's become legal and used by a lot of people. another reason government always wants something to control while bitcoin can't be their toy to play. that kind issue should not be a big deal as long as the demand keep growing then the price pushed, people should think more wide about bitcoin it's an opportunity not a threat, $2k $10k $100k isn't a mission impossible.
1626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: March 30, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
Best about bitcoin for me is bitcoin a new form of public savings were applied to a system that is not a hassle.

In addition to saving bitcoin, all the usual financial intermediaries at banks can be eliminated.
The holder is also no need to pay a service fee and registration.
that's true, decentralization really have a lot of benefit. people can't accept that as a full of benefit thing , they prefer to consider bitcoin system as a dangerous one and even scam scheme lol . banks really greedy when they have a regulation to take fee here and there , they are monster , sucking people money . people need some financial revolution and bitcoin ready to make it happen.
A part of the decentralization of bitcoin, which I think that is being threatened by the Chinese domination of the bitcoin market, bitcoin is not controlled by any market, it is controlled by the people using it, by the community which makes us the ones that control our money and people want that, they are sick of being controlled by the system and taxes, I mean in Sweden and Denmark people have to pay 25% of their revenue taxes for the government.
not the real chinese i guess but over 50% bitcoin mining company are from china but the miner itself not all come from china , some people just join the pool as chinese mining company currently are the biggest. but i believe as time goes by that situation would changed once bitcoin spread evenly around the world. so nothing to worry about it, the real and clear benefit using bitcoin are free tax, hard to audit bitcoin.
1627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents? on: March 30, 2017, 11:45:08 AM
Even accept 0 confirmations only to play is a bad idea, because you can deposit with low priority, play, and if you win, you let the transaction go through and be confirmed, if you lose, then you can double spend with high priority and lose nothing.

I don't know what the casinos that accept 0 confirmation payments do to avoid such situations
a lot of casino aware about this scenario and they have set the rules about it too, if you follow the directbet case where someone caught double spending attempt to bet there as directbet accept 0 confirmation you would know (yeah it wasn't a casino but still it could be an example) sportsbet.io accept 0 confirmation (they have a casino) but i wouldn't recommend to play there. i wish op have no bad agenda behind ask for this as i can see he has neg trust about hacking stuff and money laundering.
1628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: March 30, 2017, 11:28:02 AM
That's a good question, because the individual who is not able to control himself should not even start playing it. I'm not a gambler, but if I were to play it would certainly be for fun, and putting just what I can afford to lose. That way it is easier to have self-control.
Yes, that is why I always calculated about risk losing money in gambling before play it,
and not only on trading money management is needed on gambling game too.
It protect us from large amount losing money in gambling and
gambling game is not good way for making money except for fun.
still all of them useless when your greedy come out , money / bankroll management would work only when you use it on non-addictive thing, gambling are 100% addictive and you can't avoid that fact. so you can't compare it to trading or something else. an excitement could make you to do stupid things , in this case you could always push the limit/crossed the bankroll limit in other words losing control.
1629  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: March 30, 2017, 11:20:45 AM
Its a strategy followed by big whales to mislead newbies.Usually newbies become prey to these predator big whales and sell off all of their bitcoins.Whales buy all tose bitcoins at much cheaper price and when the market begins to recover after some time,bitcoin price once again rises and newbies have to regret for their decision.

Yes the situation is disturbing but we don't have to lose faith and sell off.  it is just a business which sees ups and downs. when more people start selling off then you can see again the price will raise and people will regret selling off to less.

true! this is just a game played by whales taking advantage to the weak hands => NEWBIES.

these whales dump the price so the newbies will panic and sell all of their coins. later, they will realize that the price will just rise in a bit. regretting of what they have done. i've been there too.. when im still new to bitcoin. that is why i have leaned my lesson. the price may pump or dump i will just hold my bitcoin. 
it wasn't that easy to control and manipulate the whole bitcoin market even if you are one of that whales , so i wouldn't completely believe that there is price manipulation by anyone. the market are wild and feel like gambling sometimes , panic selling just one of a lot of things could happened in this trading world. by having ability to analyze the latest situation a real experienced trader would know where and when they have to put buy and sell position.
1630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: March 29, 2017, 02:31:10 PM
Who cares, honestly?

I respect some religions, but honestly it being a sin or not... Does it matter? Just do what you want don't let a religion tell you what to do (there are limits, but you get the point).

Yes. The gambling sin concept is just a hoax. The people started these things just to tell how bad gambling and betting is. When gamblers argued this they started to spread stories like gambling is sin.
I think very less people think of gambling their hard earned money. Only those who got money without breaking a sweat gamble.
lol that's true , people thinking about sin based on religion rules. and basically that stuff are personal matter , if you believe it was wrong and a sin then leave it then shut up. it shouldn't be a big deal . sin and religion things are between you and your god. people can't and shouldn't judge you , they have no right. do anything as you wish as long as didn't break any common norms.
1631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: March 29, 2017, 02:17:35 PM
Well this is true if you do not follow the basic rules

1) To have discipline in life
2) Self control that only this amount to be played if lost, then you will leave the casino
3) Not to borrow any money from any one

 

It depends on a person though, following this rules might just lower the risk of losing too much money and not really want to quit gambling. Gambling is not that easy to quit if it becomes a habit, because no matter what you do, it is just feel that your day is incomplete without you doing it, so there is no way to quit just like that.

It is like you are trying to forget someone you knew even though you know you cannot, but if you are really dedicated to do so, then you can do it, just don't fool your own self with your promises.
nothing easy when you want to leave your habit, the only way are by replace it by another habit , hope with that new habit as time goes by you could forgetting the old habit and moving onto the new one. so better to find something you like most in your life and set it as your hobby to keep yourself have no time to even think about gambling anymore.
1632  Economy / Economics / Re: How Bitcoin will reach $2000 to $10000 in 2017 and $100k by 2026. on: March 29, 2017, 02:05:39 PM
That is not possible to reach like 10k$. We need to understand various global scenarios as well to determine this. Now India is planning to ban bitcoin and its going to make the rate stumble to an extent in coming time.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/use-of-bitcoin-illegal-can-attract-anti-money-laundering-law/articleshow/57874230.cms
i think every single country especially third world countries would always have a thought to ban bitcoin due they didn't ready yet to accept newest technology like bitcoin , people there have no time to think forward for future they always left 10-20 years behind when talking about advanced technology, they would feel insecure as result ban are the answer for them. i don't think that issue could have huge impact globally to the bitcoin price now or later.
1633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best way to gain affiliates? on: March 29, 2017, 01:57:06 PM
If you want to get more Affiliates or more people going into the website then I would suggest paying guys that do Internet Marketing and ask them for specific niche related leads and the people will generate some income when the Gamble on the website.
Making some YouTube videos are pretty easy and it's also kinda fun, you would get paid through YouTube plus the Gambling website if you choose this method of promotion too.
yeah building a keyword doing SEO to bring a lot of people to see your article as do reviewing through video on youtube or writing article in a website are the most effective way , can't think other way , it's just the matter on how you can optimize it. not sure if you can make a fake campaign like post an attractive image (NSFW pict) and linked to your affiliate link could be effective and legit way.
1634  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: March 29, 2017, 01:12:06 PM
For me skill based gambling is more risky rather than trading,
But I don't really know cause I am not a trader and whenever I gamble I would only play in some dice site.
gambling is a very risky game. when compared with the trading of course gambling is very high and vulnerable. I've lost a lot of money, but I've also got a lot of money from gambling games. we have to really be able to manage time appropriately.
In my opinion time management is much required for trading, but for gambling money management is a must. Only with money management one can know his own limits and participate accordingly to get profited based on the strategy made.
Time management will never solution in trading you can set auto sell there while you are playing in gambling. The only diffenrece in gambling is you can earn there the profit you get from trading. Whether you know already your limition the profit triggered us more to play in to long run. Consistent profit will always make us more wanting to play gambling and making bets more higher.
i think what he means about time management are when you should know to stop collect the profit or when you have to cut loss, it was a common strategy in trading actually. no matter it's skill based gambling game or trading, as long as you know the time to stop , know your limit , both are same good imho.
1635  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin worth? Welcome to discuss on: March 29, 2017, 12:56:20 PM
Investors and nonprofessional people have different thinking about bitcoin. But in my thinking now bitcoin is still worth-able and its price groow above $1000. So we have no argue to discuss about bitcoin price value. In my eyes, bitcoin already achieved a successful place and now it is depend on ourself how we gain and make profit from bitcoin.    
Succesfull for a currency in my perspective is not determined on how much the coin's value is, but how's its coverage and usage in this world. It's no use if there's some altcoins which have overwhelming value but only be used among communities which coverage is low. It's ain't real currency but more likely a valuable digital properties.
right , you can see there's altcoin named bitcoinplus and looks onfire in the last few days have a value 0.004 jump to 0.12 within a day but dropped again to 0.03 in the same day. why it's happened? the community/user come to take advantage only , while in bitcoin it has well established enough compared to other cryptocurrency and people make it as future investment plan. 100% agree with you.
1636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 29, 2017, 12:46:46 PM
If you jump into trading without any knowledge and skills then there will be no difference between trading and gambling as in both cases you are depending only on luck to make profits which can be really risky so its always good to get into trading only after learning and gaining some knowledge about the market.

Yeah that's acceptable to consider that you are actually wasting your bitcoin and as well as your time, the same thing with gambling. As we gamble, we tend to aim for profit no matter how does the game goes if you lack of those things then in the end you are just doing the same thing.
If we think for those things which you mentioned then yes at that point we come together in gambling and trading. If a person will have knowledge and skills then there is no any risk in trading the same also happen in betting for sports in which if we have knowledge about the team and sports then we will win depending on our skills and experience.

If a person does have enough knowledge and skills with trading still there's a risk for it. We may not know that we are guaranteed to had good profit as we trade. As you mentioned with sports betting, look on it though we had exceptional prediction skills and analysis still we can't say that we have guarantee to earn a lot from it.
as long as you put your money on certain event you could always consider it as gambling , that's my opinion. in trading a lot of people believe that the market are really predictable if you do a lot of research based on many factors , then it wasn't uncertain as it closer to predictable with its analysis/research . but when you trading with zero knowledge and zero effort to do research you may have to consider it as gambling.

Yeah it's actually a real nature of gambling for just letting go your funds and hopes to win without any knowledge about it. Well it's just up to the person on how he can see the market of trading if that is gambling. Cos' there are some that treats trading as a nature of playing the market and it's a legit way rather than gambling.
that's true , when you just throw your money and hoping for additional money without have a little work in it , then it's completely gambling. when you trade just buy here and there without care on anything then it's completely gambling. trading are game of money indeed , but doesnt mean it's always gambling right? you should trade in proper way then you are pure trading not half gambling or even completely trade feel like gambling.
1637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: March 29, 2017, 12:21:29 PM
Experience give you chance to stop and not loose everything when you get profit, that's my opinion.  Smiley
Damn man you were actually on the point and yes i totally agree with your point. If we are a gambler and not addicted than this is one thing we will surely learn. Plus i would also say experience can also help a person understand the difference between a scam and a legit site. And experience can help us control as the more we lose the more we realise the affect on us
no , not really accurate. experience sometimes mean nothing when you act obstinate. so first of all you should have a positive attitude to make your gambling habit didn't turn wrong. people shouldn't expect too much with experience could help you out reaching goal in gambling. experience may have a little bit effect when you want to make decision like should you keep playing or take a break? should you play with the whole money / the whole bankroll? based on experience you would think twice to do that.
1638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: March 29, 2017, 12:09:04 PM
There's no point to replace it.
I don't think that bitcoin can or should be the best crypto on all levels though. Let bitcoin do the one thing that it's best at.
Other coins will compete for the rest.
Even when Satoshi Nakamoto published Bitcoin, there were no altcoin on that time until Namecoin launched on 2011. It was more than 3 years and Bitcoin was okay till 2011. Altcoin can't replace Bitcoin forever because Bitcoin is a main coin because that's just an alternative.


Yes, Bitcoin cannot be replaced by another altcoin because even there is no fiat currency related altcoin between the exchanges. So it is not possible for any other crypto to replace bitcoin. Bitcoin is major currency and many other altcoins depend on bitcoin.

Right now there is no other currency that can replace bitcoin but there is a full possibility that in future bitcoin can be replaced by some new and innovative currency as we are in era of technology advancement so anything is possible in near future.
you just should not never say never , everything really could happened especially right now there's a heated issue about how bitcoin could be damaged with two side point of view about bitcoin block size, the debate keep heating and could leading into bitcoin classic version vs bitcoin just like what happened to ethereum few months ago , at that moment some altcoin or even a new cryptocurrency could take over bitcoin place, who knows?
1639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: March 29, 2017, 11:55:35 AM
Everyone can start on small capital if that is only he can afford. We start in a small investments to try and see the results and we make it bigger because we are not contented and wanting to be on top.
There are lot of ponzi schemes that attract earners because of high return for just a small funds to put in but most of them are just a trap. They promise but end up broken, yeah it may be small but also has a value.

Yeah and its always good to start with a small capital if you are new to investments so even if you loose your money then it won't affect you much and people will invest according to their capabilities and not all can afford to invest huge amount initially so its better to go step by step.
as long as it worth to your time , there's no big deal to start with low amount capital. it's just ideally an investment should be made with big capital , as the return or profit percentage really low compared to any other way to earn profit. so make sure you have think everything correctly based on your financial situation.
1640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: March 29, 2017, 11:33:10 AM
Yes, I use analysis for gambling, that I did for this kind of sports gambling such as soccer, NBA, boxing, F1 and many more. Without the analysis surely will make me often lose.

We really need analysis even in deciding whether we will play or not, if we will bet or not and if we will continue when we lose. Analysis in terms of playing whether to bet that amount especially if we think its our day and the momentum attracts. Analysis in sports betting is really in need, while in cards or dice we depend on luck mostly.
Gambling really need analization to decide when to bets and when to place big amount to win big but sometimes you can easily know in odds of the game where the most low odds is about to win the game 70% im agreed in luck when playing is dice game not only for those skilled players or master or even v.i.p is loosing too.
lol if you say so then there must be a lot of people get profit and a lot of bookies bankrupt , gambling not working with that way. low odds doesn't mean you will win , having higher chance on bigger percentage doesn't guarantee you anything to win , everything done randomly in gambling , even with 99 percentage to win you still have a chance to lost , i have lost on that 99 percent chance when the roll are on 00.00 , super unlucky right? analysis sometimes work , but also sometimes not , just makes sure you gamble with the amount you can afford to lose no matter if you use analysis or not.

It is true that even with 99% you wont always winning the game and usually high odds got a bad payment, so its better used your analytic skill to win at better odds, good analysis could help you choose better team to win although is not always correct but it can make your winning chance bigger
you mean to place a bet on sportsbetting based on your own data analysis? because i don't think you can analysis a game like dice or slot machine , it's 100% pure luck games , you can't find any data to analyze and expect better chance to win there. no matter what you do to gamble with or without analysis , you have responsibly on it.
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