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2421  Other / Off-topic / Re: Government regulation always a bad thing? on: March 12, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
The most interesting question is: does an atomic power plants really pay off?
I am convinced that this industry relies heavily on state subsidies.

I am not convinced about that, but I kind of suspect it too.

I'm not sure nuclear power really worthed the risks it contains.
2422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Poll: your age on: March 12, 2011, 05:07:10 PM
Normaly people who are Ok to publish this info can do it in their profile.  I'm 32, soon 33.

Also, instead of the age you should have asked about the birth year imo.


2423  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin.org Redesign (mockups inside) on: March 12, 2011, 04:47:14 PM
IMHO, the top should have 2 download links: one that is the "default" client for the user's platform (identified by User-Agent), and the other linking to a table of alternative clients/platforms.

For example, on the main page:
[  Download wxBitcoin for Windows  ]  |  (Download other clients/platforms)

And on the second page:

Client    | Win | Mac | Ubuntu | Deb | Fedora | RH
----------------------------------------------------
wxBitcoin | D/l | D/l |  D/l   | D/l |  D/l   | D/l
BitcoinD  | D/l | D/l |  D/l   | D/l |  D/l   | D/l
Spesmilo  | D/l | D/l |  D/l   | D/l |  D/l   | D/l
...


What is spesmilo?  At some point I thought it was the esperantist version of bitcoin, but this word doesn't seem to mean anything in esperanto.
2424  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does "legal tender" mean anyway? on: March 12, 2011, 04:17:05 PM
As lame as it is  it makes sense and keeps things in order.
Could you imagine if there were 50 common paper currencies floating around the US, some highly counterfeited etc.
"I want to pay you purple dollars."
"Fuck your purple, orange is better."
etc etc

Any seller can require any currency for paiement.  There is really no reason why it should be the same.

If you don't have the currency the merchand is requiring, then you just go somewhere else.
2425  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does "legal tender" mean anyway? on: March 12, 2011, 01:55:15 PM

Hang on, I think I finally understand.

Saying that dollar is "legal tender" basically means that law can enforce debts only if they are expressed in dollars.

Is that it?
2426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does "legal tender" mean anyway? on: March 12, 2011, 01:13:35 PM
I don't get it.

I mean: if I'm in debt to you, unless this debt was explicetely measured in dollars, it doesn't make sense that you are forced to accept dollars to repay the debt.

Say I owe you a chocolate cake.   I don't have a chocolate cake to give you right now, but I have 2 dollars.  So I give you the two dollars and tell you:

<< Sorry dude I don't have any chocolate cake to give you back, but I have those two dollars and according to Federal law you must accept them to clear my debt.  So take them and go away please. >>

Sounds silly to me.

Of course if the debt was expressed in dollars, then the problem doesn't exist, but then saying that the dollar is "legal tender" is a bit of a tautology, isn't it?
2427  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Top reasons why bitcoin is awesome (or "killer feature list") on: March 12, 2011, 12:20:30 PM
For instance, the bank takes care of all the security, and you don't need to worry about your Bitcoins being hacked/stolen/lost.

That's not exactly a bank, rather a data storage provider.  Maybe an Internet/VPN provider.

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The bank can also insure your Bitcoins in the unlikely scenario that they get stolen from them. Same as  for safety deposit boxes.

Well that's an insurance business.  Still not exactly banks.
2428  Other / Off-topic / Re: Government regulation always a bad thing? on: March 11, 2011, 11:31:40 PM
You would be a fool to imagine such a thing. Do you think people will throw out good ideas just because they originated with government? Even they get things right sometimes.

I think Kiba meant that the market could have followed the same path than government.  Of course the market would keep good ideas invented by regulators.


And I agree about one thing:  sometimes government does good things.  One can not be always wrong about everything.
2429  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: P2P Social Networks and Bitcoin on: March 11, 2011, 11:27:43 PM
Might not be a bad idea. If Diaspora launches an app platform like Facebook did, maybe Bitcoins can be the Facebook Credits of Diaspora...

Diaspora is supposed to be open-source.  So if they don't use bitcoin, we will.
2430  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin as the anti-spam measure that hashcash aspired to be on: March 11, 2011, 11:15:30 PM
As a simple solution the sending person's software looks up the email provider's public key, then it transfers the amount, and references the payment in an email header.  The receiving server verifies that this payment has not been referenced before, and presto.  This is of course a degenerate solution:  there are much more optimal ways to do this.  But it gives you the idea.

Ok, that makes sense.
2431  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Top reasons why bitcoin is awesome (or "killer feature list") on: March 11, 2011, 11:07:56 PM
Bitcoin makes banks useless.

PS.  I've just written this and people might think it's rethoric, but it's not.  Banks are really useless now, thanks to bitcoin.  When you think about it, it's pretty huge.  Banks have existed for centuries (since the renaissance I think).  And now, suddenly, their business model is about to vanish.
2432  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin as the anti-spam measure that hashcash aspired to be on: March 11, 2011, 10:37:01 PM

Let's assume it's a good idea.

How exactly is this supposed to work?

Ok, so I have an email address that I publish while saying: "if you want to send me a message to this address, it will cost you 0.01 BTC.  I won't read any message from people who will not have paid."

How exactly is someone supposed to prove that he has actually paid for the message he has sent??
2433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What does "legal tender" mean anyway? on: March 11, 2011, 09:52:05 PM

I know I could check in Wikipedia or something, but I'd like to have your view on this first.


I suspect it doesn't actually mean much.
2434  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin.org Redesign (mockups inside) on: March 11, 2011, 06:55:48 PM
That looks too "commercial" to me. People will probably think that Bitcoin is run by a business from looking at that. I prefer the simple layout.

Agreed.  It should not be too flashy nor too advocating.


PS.  I don't like the "virtual" adjective in the subtitle "P2P virtual currency".  I"d prefer "P2P digital currency"
2435  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What would you change about the Bitcoin protocol? on: March 11, 2011, 06:01:19 PM

The protocol could be more permissive about what kind of key could be used.  Basically it could accept not just elliptic curves, but any openssl supported key.
2436  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Satoshi Alive? Thread on: March 11, 2011, 12:19:20 AM
I'm sorry...I've gotten so many PMs I've gone into hiding.  Thanks for your support.

And here we go...   That had to happen.
2437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Poll: What OS do you use? on: March 10, 2011, 11:47:54 PM
I think you've undermined your own argument there. All the GNU programs included in Linux are "just applications" too, and all of them can be replaced. (On embedded systems, they usually are, for instance.)

Well, maybe the boundary between an application and a part of an operating system is not clear, but at least the GNU project has the ambition of being an OS, since it compares itself to UNIX.

Also, there is no program included in linux.  Linux is a program.
2438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Poll: What OS do you use? on: March 10, 2011, 10:59:54 PM
Why single out GNU? There are a lot of other components of the system that are equally necessary to make it useful. The GNU stuff isn't such a critical thing anymore. We might as well call the system Firefox/KDE/Xorg/Linux or something.

But not just "linux" either.  Same as we don't call Mac OS X "Darwin".  Linux is just a kernel.

You can run a system without Firefox, KDE or Xorg.  But on most systems at least a few GNU apps (at minima a shell) is required around linux.


GNU is the acronym for "Gnu is Not Unix".  This means that GNU is designed to provide an OS comparable to Unix, without being exactly Unix.  Therefore its name should appear in the OS name, imo.

Firefox or Xorg are not designed to be an operating system.  They are just applications.
2439  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Poll: What OS do you use? on: March 10, 2011, 10:33:00 PM

Please change the "Linux" entry into "GNU/Linux".

2440  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: POLL: Bitcoin related services on: March 10, 2011, 08:39:31 PM

None of this is bitcoin-specific.
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