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2421  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: March 27, 2017, 12:39:06 PM
trading of course, still based game are very low in randomness because they are based more on skill, the chance that you win just by luck is very low, on the other hand trading is the opposite, the luck invovled is very high, and the long run success is still based on luck

Exactly, Trading can somehow be more predictable than gambling. Aside from that we could hold  our amounts and keep it safe fo r awhile until we were able to see the price that we wanted and trade it. However in gambling things are very far different even if it is a skill based game bias is very much more predictable than the real result

how could you say trading is predictable? If that really the case then many people who do trades must be reach from now? And i doesn't even see some situation that can make tradings a predictable area since their so many people yet losing some huge money from it. And also i can't compare both of the choices since they've got similarities on their own platforms.
2422  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: March 27, 2017, 12:04:33 PM

I want to generate a constant monthly gain. Is it possible to do this by bitcoin trading? So, can I just do this by dealing with BTC trading?
Are there any people among us who can make a living by trading in BTC?
If you are really  determined to have a profit in trading monthly that is very much possible, you can have profit in trading daily, weekly, and monthly if you will become hard working and do it patiently.
With trading you could get a reliable earning but at times this too is a hard thing if you don't show much interest to know about the market situation,. So in accordance to the market move we need to make the buying and selling order to make the profit a fixed one.
yes i also think so that no one can get a fixed profit from trading. As from trading one can get a good profit, even unlimited amount of money, but still fixed earning is not possible from trading. for a long time.

Exactly its hard to believe that anyone can get fixed and stable income from trading as your capital will decide your profits and loss and also the price of altcoin at which you sell them so the income from trading will always varying at different times.
yes i also think so that there is not possible to get a fixed income from trading alt coins. because some time we get a good profit from trading while some time we even booked lost. some time trading give us good profit while other time we get a little money from trading, therefore it is not possible to gett a fixed income from trading.


Its very hard to think truly on how we can get fix profits in tradings while the flactuations of bitcoin is unpredictable and we have a big chance to lose from bad incidents if we mis calculated the whole run of the certain coin where we are trading. But also we can earn little or big its our choice since we can do short trades and long trades where it can dictate on how much profit we can get from the potential coin which we are holding on.
2423  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 1 btc with telegram mining on: March 27, 2017, 11:12:17 AM
How could people mines to earn from now and why do they need an investors if they can generate some profits on what they claimed as mining business?

Well for what i've see i doesn't find any legalities in here and the one i think on what is happening here is this post claimed as mining business in telegram is ponzi scheme, Since theres no stron info about on whatsoever he called business so i assume this would be turn scam easily.
2424  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - CONGRATULATIONS TO WONTON FOR WINNING 300BTC on: March 27, 2017, 10:38:17 AM
There's even the case to drop Doge since the altcoin market trends has changed, and then accept Dash, XMR or maybe ETC?  Looking at CMC, those altcoins would be good at first impression.  What do you think?

I'd think that Dash or XMR would be the most likely candidates for inclusion as altcoins. They already have ETH so I doubt ETC would be added, but Dash and XMR have been quite popular lately so it is possible those might be considered.

Dash is quite good coin AFAIK suddenly rise so high is past few days though, but I do not think that XMR since the price does not fluctuate a lot. But if I can suggest, try burst coin or may be they can even take others new coin or even create new coin, may be this is quite good thing to be considered


Dash would be a great addition and also and it could be good on to be added since i believe there are many people using and staking it so i believe it would be another alternative choice of the bettors. Aswell as with XMR the price stability would be good for it since we don't have anything to worry about for the price dump of it and devs should care to do some research from it since it would be a great development from this site.
2425  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: March 26, 2017, 01:25:07 PM
I really doubt CB (or any other bookie) beats powerbet in live betting lines or odds. And PB also has instant withdrawals. CB usually has decent odds, but there are some popular events where they just throw in the worst odds, worse than directbet, so if you're a CB player, keep your eyes open and don't fall for that trap (they mix good odds with really awful ones) Smiley
Are you telling that they have a better live betting paltform and if that is the case i would try that out but when it tried to sign up all i can see is that they want to know all my details ,my mobile number,address ,postal code and so on,do i have to submit verification details too.If that is the case it is really bad to ask for a bitcoin based site.


i think you can skip that one and thats truly bad if they ask some personal information while registering at their site but in my experience i doesn't encounter that verification what you said and maybe that one is being brought up to the players who won huge money in their site. But if not well i fell bad for it and in that case i would not register there since we are bitcoin industry and we should be anonymous here.
2426  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How much do i need to invest? on: March 26, 2017, 09:13:50 AM

I am new to mining. How much do i need to invest in genesis mining to generate 1500-2000 USD per month mining altcoins like ethereum or dash?

Since you are new its better to read this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768281.0 first so that you can get an idea on how genisis-mining works for now and you could get some feedbacks among those people who tested this site as of now. And simple piece of advise came from me don't look for cloudmining investment for now since it is dead business and many of them are just scam. Better if you focus on crypto tradings and im pretty sure that you could earn their decently.
2427  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - CONGRATULATIONS TO WONTON FOR WINNING 300BTC on: March 26, 2017, 08:29:31 AM
I know it is part of the campaign to post atleast once a week here but the amount of shit posting going on from the members of the campaign itself is quite hilarious.I mean come on ,if you have nothing nice to say just post that instead of derailing the official casinos thread with off topic gambling discussions.Its silly to see the last few pages of the thread are just posts from signature campaignesrs from this campaign.

When the campaign are giving this type of condition to post in their announcement topic compulsory each week then what will the users will do when they can see nothing to post other then to just follow it. What you are telling is due to your frustration of posting a compulsory post on topic of the campaign.

Im not surprised for this to be happen and i think Owners of this campaigns aware that since they've allow this kind of spam so that their thread will be up and it can be good to them since gamblers can easy locate this thread to read more about on how bitdice works. But I think this rules made by them is OK and we cannot stop people posting their words onhere and its up to the campaign manager to Filter the relevant post in this thread so that they can fix the possible or upcoming mess on here.
So far we haven't heard any complaints from the manager or the owner itself, I would presume then that posts were all relevant to the topic.
This is the official thread of Bitdice and we can post anything we like including what we feel, our opinion, and suggestions, so it's hard to do filtering
because it's like you are getting the freedom of expression. I can post her, "hey I'm happy because I won today, thanks Bitdice" isn't it not relevant?
Yes, we have not heard a complaint from the manager or owner of the site. And I think during we post here and not far from BitDice was not a problem and still on the topic. I believe that if this is a problem will be reminded.

And by the way, I missed bonus or prize or giveaway here, hopefully any time soon will be held again Grin

We cannot totally please anybody here to do so but aslong as devs and our campaign managers doesn't get any problems with it well i think its ok since they are allowing those kind of post made here and we should be aware also that spam can be harmfull to us and we must be aware for it so that we can contribute good to the site who are we promoted aswell as we contribute good post in this furom.

And for that it will be ok if we just enjoy the game and forget the inquiries about the required post here.
2428  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: March 26, 2017, 07:40:31 AM
I prefer the fast payout site like Nitrogen, has no trouble to wait for 10 minutes withdrawal, much better than 2-24 hour withdrawal here.
It all depends upon your individual preference and even i do prefer gambling sites which has instant withdrawals rather than waiting it out because in the bitcoin world delay mean you can lose your money and so for sports i use directbet which i think is the best book without any fuss as you get your coins back once the match is over.

Interms of gambling with at ease i would prefer also those gambling sites who has an instant withdrawal feature and i wouldn't doubt that if cloudbet really implements that surely they can minimize the problem who's still occuring for now. And I can say on the other hand that cloudbet got a huge coverage truly interms in game selection but im doubting to cameback here since i can't afford to get some problem when the time the error of withdrawals will occur to me.
2429  Economy / Services / Re: BitDice Casino Signature Campaign [WILL START 1 DECEMBER] on: March 26, 2017, 05:56:26 AM
Confirming also that i received my payment thanks to bitdice management aswell as with boxxob.
2430  Economy / Speculation / Re: Looks like 2000 next month on: March 24, 2017, 10:53:01 PM
Someone of you watching Ethereum Shocked Shocked

+7 dollars in one week...  well bitcoin make this in 1 minute
Even if it looks important when we talk about the %, it is still too far from bitcoin
Back to the topic, bitcoin will not reach $2k any time soon

Your right with that men, Bitcoins watchers are now afraid to hodl i believe since the price for bitcoins for now is quitely unpredictable since we don't have any good pointers if the price will go down or up, And theres no event at all that can make the price go bent so 2k$ price speculation will not up for now and maybe lets just say that 1k would be its fairest prediction since this is the actual price where what we see for now.
2431  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: can I make 100$ in 2-3 month without a base money? on: March 24, 2017, 01:06:23 PM
If I have 0$ at the moment can I make 100$ in 2 or 3 months? How?

It's very simple and I did it for so many times. The best way for earning that amount for that range of day is with getting a job.

What if I deposited 20$ .. Can I make them 100$ in less time?

There's no guaranteed that you will be earning that $100 out of that $20, it depends on your strategy and can you go with the flow of fluctuations.

But if you've got a lot of source of income and not just investing that $20 while having a day job, you can earn it.
In 2 to 3 months of period, earning $100 is tangible online since it can be gained through signature campaign and promoting an advertisements without any investments. However, there is really no assurance to gain a certain of amount for a certain period since working online isn't consistent. Hence, earning is also upon the market and the strategies you are doing.


That is long time spand to gain such little money and actually as you said we can get it from sig campaigns but we should be a member on big signature campaign so that we can gain that truly and and also aside from that we can earn it from servicing some people,hunting altcoin bounties and many more here so we'd better seek for them so that we can earn some profits eventhough we doesn't put some money to invest in.
2432  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: March 24, 2017, 12:28:33 PM
I'm having hard time to manage my emotions for everything that is happening in my life. And in trading, most of the time I feel frustrated.

Especially when I'm seeing the price of bitcoin is falling that is hurting me that starts me to realize that it's better rather than bitcoin doesn't have value at all.

I just go with the flow and take a deep breath.


I feel frustrate easily to when i see some dumps happen in the time of my monitoring and sometimes im lossing some money with that since i can't truly hold my feelings since im kinda afraid of dead dumps who mostly happens on altcoins in market trades, But if we talk about gambling since we are in gambling discussion i think i can with hold my patience in that since im not totally a sane sick gamblers who mostly do some wild bets on their game time.
2433  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - CONGRATULATIONS TO WONTON FOR WINNING 300BTC on: March 24, 2017, 11:56:43 AM
Congratulations to the winner you do your best .. in gambling you can win or lose and if you are lucky your good . you cannot sure your win in gambling because you spend a lot of money.. If i win 300btc the  200btc i will saved to my wallet and 100btc in gambling because its good to saved money than play all money in gambling.

Bitdice seems to be good dice and roll gambling here. Simply he can put his 100$ and he can gambling. Please do not use Autobot option when you gamble using big amounts. Last we saw 100 btc winner also. Best of luck for the bitdice casino members. So far I have used .0.03 btc in gambling but I lost all using auto bot option in dice. Is there any option to win frequent? Please suggest.
I also do not use auto bot as I know it cannot think and cannot handle the situation coming to us in different timing of rolling dice. You lost only small money for that money anyone will use auto bot but for higher amount like 100 BTC only fool will go for that option.
I find it not fun when using bot every time I gamble, I tried it at first but then I get bored in the long run. I believe playing dice needs luck and luck is always in our hands and not in the bot to manage our betting preference. High rollers win big amount because they risk bigger money so that's not something special, it so happen that they can afford what they bet. Let's just stay our comfort level to be safe and to stay entertain.
Having the game on Auto always depends on the settings and the balance you have. Because the settings is always the key on winning also if you set your bet on doubling it requires a lot of money just to make sure you break even in the game. Also don't be fooled on people trying to sell their settings it is a big joke because there is no guarantee that you will win with that preset.

I can say that autobet is all depends on how people monitor his bet when the time he turns it on and it can be dangerous since we might gonna suffer from lossing streak if we fail to attend our monitor when that feature is on and surely many people got lose for that since they doesn't even think on what will happen to them by using that. thats why for me i would rather go on manual bet so that i can familiarize and read my in game stats.
2434  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: freebitco.in Annual investment on: March 22, 2017, 09:29:53 PM
So I recently received an email from freebitco.in faucet that are now offering an annual investment for their user.
It promises a 4.08% of annual interest with a minimum of 30k satoshi to be able to participate.

What do you guys think about this?

This is the actual email from them:

Quote
Dear FreeBitco.in user,

We are excited to announce a launch of a new feature - a bitcoin savings account!

You can now earn 4.08% annual interest (paid and compounded daily) on any balance that you hold in your FreeBitco.in account, without doing anything!

All you need to do is mantain a balance of at least 30,000 satoshi (0.0003 BTC) in your FreeBitco.in account and we shall pay you compounded interest on your full balance everyday. There is no lock-in period to earn interest (you start earning interest right from the first day!) and your balance can be withdrawn any time you wish. Treat your FreeBitco.in account like an instant-access savings account to hold your excess bitcoins and earn passive interest on your account balance everyday.

It's very hard to think that a faucet site will surely retain its fame for the long time and 1 year i quitely to far to be happen and surely we cannot assure that we can get some profits if dividends happen. And if they are giving only 4% per annum roi per year to us i also think its truly better or shall i call best if we invest on banks while they are giving 8% per 2 years payout with plus additional income from dividends, Just inquire to BDO i believe theirs a bank near you to clarify that.
2435  Economy / Services / Re: I need a free escrow to pay a developer on: March 22, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
Please contact me. I did not spent time on this forum and do not know that which escrow is trusted escrow.


-- your kidding right??
Definitely you dont spend time here.. So why are you looking for free escrow?? Your giving a chance scammers to do there jobs! To scam people.. And who will make you beleive that newbie like asking for a free escrow..
Because on the list of escrow I saw some high trusted escrow with 0% fees and all of these were offline. You spend more time on this forum but you do not know about info of escrow. I am not a scammer but you are spammer.

Yesterday I send a message to lutpin and will pay him a fees because other who have 0% fees are inactive from yesterday. Now I am waiting when he reply me.
I am also in contact with yahoo62278

If they both do not reply to me then I will contact to swingfirst and 0day (I will ask from lutpin and yahoo62278 about these two persons)

I saw Oday look good, because oday in trust by Lunarbets.eu be meneger in their signature campaign, if you do not believe you can see the campaign on hold by oday here. Oday https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1835431.0 may have proven reliable for escrow.
but i saw here only that persons good for escrow who has green trust on their profile and who already have worked before as escrow. because of that I am confused. I sent message to lutpin and yahoo62278 and will see that what they are saying.


20$ is just a little amount and i think theres no need to call the attention of both mentioned names since i believe that they are busy for other things here in furom and i would suggest neotox since he posted that he can handle that money for you and also i think you can lessen the fee for him since he is negotiable person to deal on.

Try bump him also so that you can minimize the time yoy consume for that deal and speed up some things to make the deal done.
2436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: March 22, 2017, 02:26:09 PM
I used to like slot game, same as roulette. But now i don't like slot games, it's not fun for me and i don't win anything either. I tried slots in reallife as well but it's still boring.
it is indeed , noone having fun by rolling the slots machine and get nothing ,
you shouldn't do it regularly , just do it for the sake of give a shot for your luck ,
slots machine makes you screaming full of joy when you get a full prize jackpot ,
you might have seen someone won it in real life right? it is just like that.


Well im doubting really on it since i think the online result of slot games are been manipulated by the site owners thats why i can't really risk my money on their aswell as i can't find any joy upon playing at that game since i cannot do anything with that. Unlike those strategy base game where we can use our brain and compete with the world upon playing on that time. But if people truly love slots might better they just go to their nearist offline casino and do some wildbets there.
2437  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do you think Bitcoin will reach $1500? on: March 22, 2017, 12:42:33 PM
I say by the end of December for sure, but feeling the summer is a possibility as well.  Your thoughts ?
It would have reached $1500 by may,but due to issues like BU and hard fork,bitcoin faced a slight decline in its price.But it was only temporary and it has recovered now to $1075.I hope bitcoin would surely reach $1500 within six months.

Again price seems rising again. I hope we will reach 1500$ end of April or may month. Because every year there is slight bump in the price in the month of April. I think it will happen for this year and likely Christmas time we use to bump in the chart. We need to understand that this dump is a soft fork only it won't make huge impact on price.


It's very hard to predict since many people are doubting to buy btc for now and surely many speculators are just watching for the price movement for now. So 1500$ will not be achievable for this time but maybe the right prediction of the price is on 1000$ and it will continue to play for that, And for the hardfork issue surely thats the double doubt for the people to stake cause the situation by that moment is pretty unsure.
2438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 22, 2017, 12:11:43 PM
my main purpose for the gamble is only profit but yet not a big profit Because I have not a better luck . And better idea to make gamble wisely .
If you gamble for profit, it's big mistake. Well, think about it, if you think that someone can make profit from casinos, than why do they exist? Because to make you rich? No man, they are making great profit and that's bad that some people thinks they can make profit from casino, if this would be like that than there won't be any casino. If you win once, it doesn't means that you can beat casino, maybe you won once but you will loose much in result, everyone has one luck.
No, im not agree for fun or profit, you will get same result in gambling. the only make both option have different in our mind is if you choose gambling for profit, you will carefully when gamble and if  you choose for fun, you already enjoy so even though you are get lose in the first bet you will not stress and sometimes you can get back win in other bet.


But we cannot assure to ourselves that we really aftering for fun only in gambling site since im very sure that in every cents we lose the more stress we can get. But i think theirs only one way for us to relieve the stress when losses occur and that is by using some sites faucet to gamble on and im pretty sure that we will not be hurt by that since we only use some free tokens from them. But i truly doesn't understand on why people thinks to get fun on gambling while that game is risky and have more stressful environment.
2439  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1x฿it.com - Most Competitive Sports฿ook & Casino | ฿est Odds & Wagering Options on: March 22, 2017, 11:39:29 AM
How was it proven that the accusers were telling the truth?

User 1xbit.com even admitted most of the cases but you're still doubting it. Wow.

bbc.reporter is old paid shill, even they don't pay him to post now, he still ignored the truth.   Grin  I remember one guys asked him to explain the pirated slots, but he never replied.

He should stop posting that shit since 1xbit has been proven that making some illegal activities out here and also i've seen already some claims that can validate that they are truly doing that. And if they are not scam then where are the devs now? Why h4ns issue has not been solve yet? And thats the real case really that wee need to look for so that we would not create a commotion here, Let the devs speak right away if they are not truly a scam site.
2440  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitminer.io real or scam? on: March 22, 2017, 11:03:59 AM
does bitminer really pay because when i see payouts nearly 50 ppl are payed everyday

I'm sure that's are fake payments. They make transfers to their own addresses, then mix them and send them one more time. They just loop it and give it as a payout. Try to track them, and you will see that they are going to nowhere!

Check just few posts from this thread and you will have answer if they are ligit.

Other site actually do that and i will not be surpised if bitminer will fake theirs stats to. We should be aware for that one since surely that payouts are just displayed by them so that they can lure people and scammed them when he right time for them comes so its very better if we just not stick to them since we cannot surely earn some money for that kind of scheme.
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