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2421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 14, 2023, 10:34:04 PM
Elche and Atletico have almost the same opportunities. Atletico didn't get many chances with good finishing and the stalemate up front was their fault.
This was surprising when the line-up was applied to Atletico. They couldn't even score 1 goal to even the score. although not in danger of being eliminated from the top 4 standings. but losing to a team that is bottom of the relegation zone is not good for Atletico.
Even though before the match started I was quite sure that Atletico Madrid could win this match but I saw the final result on the live score where Atletico Madrid lost this match. failure in this match is quite embarrassing considering the team they are facing is a team at the bottom of the standings which is clear they will be relegated this season. But on the other hand, it is true that the final finish from Atletico Madrid in this match was really quite bad, they had several golden opportunities to score but they failed to do so.

However, Atletico Madrid ranking is still quite safe in 3rd place in the temporary standings because they still have a wide difference in points from teams ranked 4th or 5th. I'm sure that Atletico Madrid will close this season in the top 4th place. They will return to winning ways in the upcoming matches.
2422  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Disaat Crypto Bersemi Kembali, Apa yang kalian lakukan? on: May 13, 2023, 10:47:41 PM
Tidak masalah dengan apa yang disebutkan oleh mother of dragons* @daenarys_stormborn  Grin
Jadi menurut saya Ia adalah tipikal semi long holder, maksudnya adalah menunggu menjual optimal adalah penyimpanan untuk waktu yang lebih lama. Contoh, daenarys_stormborn memiliki Doge yang dibeli 2019 saat doge di bawah Rp500, karena menurutnya Doge masih berpotensi ketika melihat harga Rp1.000, ia memilih menunggu sampai akhirnya merasa kalau harga Rp5.000 adalah yang terbaik buatnya, dan dijualnya lah doge di harga tersebut. Jadi, ia bukan hanya trading dengan analisa dan memikirkan profit saat ini, namun juga analisa potensi. Tentunya, ini juga langkah riskan, karena bisa saja yang ia pilih lebih rendah dari ATH saat ini, namun ini adalah pilihan investasi yang menurutnya benar. Kita tidak pernah mengerti pola trading seseorang, jadi mungkin itu maksudnya mas, semoga penjelasan ini sedikit membantu.


* sedikit candaan karena usernamenya mengingatkan saya pada karakter game of throne
Sedikit memahami. Namun hal itu cenderung di abaikan ketika keuntungan menghampiri tapi kita mengabaikan untuk mengambilnya alih alih menunggu kenaikan yang berkali kali lipat. Tapi saya setuju dengan anda mungkin dia menunggu keuntungan yang lebih besar karena dia menerapkan strategi dalam jangka panjang.

Namun kembali ke situasi market saat ini yang tiba tiba berubah secara cepat bahkan kita melihat kebanyak coin sudah turun 50% dari harga tertingginya kemungkinan besar hal itu harus di pikirkan secara kuat dalam mengambil keputusan apakah menahan dalam jangka panjang atau mengambil keuntungan ketika persentase yang kita dapat dalam keuntungan sudah agak maksimal.
2423  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BTT Perlahan Ditinggalkan? on: May 13, 2023, 10:39:31 PM
mungkin anda salah paham teman. Maksud OP banyak yang tinggal forum ini bukan user nya.. tapi pengembang proyek yang tidak memanfaatkan lagi forum ini Sebagai tempat promosi proyek mereka.

Maka nya op mengatakan banyak proyek besar lahir bukan lagi dari BTT tapi kebanyakan lahir dari promosi twitter, discord dan sebagainya. Contoh kecil proyek2 yg skrg lagi tren seperti Aptos dan Sui. Mungkin masih banyak lagi yg lahir dari luar forum ini.
Memang benar yang anda katakan dimana project besar saat ini lebih fokus mempromosikan projectnya di media twitter dan banyak yang sudah kita lihat mereka cukup sukses untuk saat ini seperti arbitrum dan pepe coin yang saat ini lagi hype hypenya. Tapi sejauh hal itu masih banyak proyek yang terus melakukan promosi di forum ini seperti project perjudian untuk menarik banyak member bermain di situs mereka bahkan masih banyak proyek vounty bayaran token yang terus melakukan promosi di forum ini. Forum ini adalah forum terbesar dalam crypto currency sehingga akan memudahkan project mencari investor di forum ini dan media twitter merupakan media terbesar yang menjadi tempat bagi developers project mencari investor untuk mendukung project mereka dari pada facebook atau media lainnya.

Intinya forum ini tidak akan sepi dan terus ada project baru yang terus bermuculan disini dalam mempromosikan produk mereka bahkan menggalang dana untuk membangun project mereka.
2424  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Perjalanan 2017 - Now, Bagaimana Perjalananmu? on: May 13, 2023, 10:28:14 PM
Pada tahun 2017 atau 2016 cukup indah untuk di kenang karena cukup mudah untuk mendapatkan income dari mengikuti sig di project bounty karena setiap token yang di bagikan di akhir kampanye selalu ada nilai di market dan pada saat itu kita mengenal istilah ico dalam setiap penjualan token yang dilakukan oleh project bounty. Namun seiring waktu berjalan nampaknya project bounty bayaran token mulai sedikit hilang pamornya karena banyak project bounty yang berakhir scam yang membuat peserta bounty perlahan lahan meninggalkan bounty bayaran token.

Pada saat tahun 2017 kita juga memiliki tren airdrop yang mana pada saat itu tugas airdrop sangat gampang dan bayaran token di kirim secara cepat yang membuat kita menghasilkan income yang cukup mudah pada saat itu.
2425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 13, 2023, 10:17:01 PM
Good news for Manchester United supporters even if most of them will not agree with me that the team still needs De Gea, but sentiments aside David De Gea is a Manchester United legend and has delivered even in their tough seasons, he certainly deserves a contract extension. Agreeing to a salary cut also shows his patriotism and love for the club.
I think there hasn't been an official announcement regarding De Gea future with Manchester United because he hasn't given a definite answer whether he will stay or leave when his contract ends this season. This season, De Gea has been irreplaceable as Manchester United goalkeeper and he has also done a pretty good job by keeping 16 clean sheets which puts him in the top spot as the winner of the golden gloves.

But I think he will sign a new contract at the end of the season because he is still believed to have a first place under erik ten hag. As far as I see the negotiations are continuing in terms of agreement on both sides.
2426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 13, 2023, 09:57:18 PM
Inter won 4-2 close match in the end they were 3-2.
They now should be safe for the next year.

Its time to focus on the Champions game next week.
The most consistent team in the last 5 matches is Inter Milan, they were able to sweep every match with a win, which made them very safe in the top 4. Lukaku became an actor in the second half of the season, he has often goals even in today's match. He opened the first goal for the advantage of inter milan he even scored the second goal to lock in the victory of inter milan in this fight.

However, their rivals, Ac milan did waste the opportunity to be in 4th place because they lost 2-0 to Spezia who were at the bottom of the standings. I think Ac milan will have great difficulty closing the season in the top 4 because the point gap is widening with the team in 4th place.
2427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: May 13, 2023, 09:48:21 PM
The season is nearly over for Chelsea and there is no hope for them to take a better place in the league this season, Chelsea lost points against the teams they should normally win without a problem, and the three remaining games for Chelsea are almost the hardest games because they have to face Manchester City, Macnshter United, and Newcastle while all these teams had good performance recently.
Chelsea will automatically close the season in any place this season, there is no hope for them because there are only 3 more matches left which might also be quite difficult for them to win the upcoming match. Chelsea next season will automatically not play in the Champions League and Europa League, they are like being a weak team for this season and the worst for them.

Playing at home or away is no longer a big difference for Chelsea this season, they are not very strong enough to provide strong resistance to their opponents. The good quality players in the Chelsea squad are almost all of the best quality but they haven't been able to show this on the pitch. Thus the large purchases made in two transfer windows by Chelsea management ended in vain this season.
2428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 13, 2023, 09:36:28 PM
Eden Harzard on the show

It is absolutely a thing of joy seeing Hazard lead the Madrid team at the top front. As an English fan I haven't been happy with the slide of Hazard and I believe if he is given a good playing time, he can find his form.
Real Madrid chose to rest many of their players as the likes of Rudiger, Kroos, Modric, Vinicius, Benzema are not seen on the pitch.
A win more Madrid tonight will be a hope for Hazard's career.
But he still failed in this match i mean he has not managed to score for this occasion. But his performance was quite good in my opinion for this match where Hazard seemed to play quite well on the Real Madrid front line. For statistics on his performance this season Hazard has played 6 times and has not managed to score even 1 goal in a Laliga match. Indeed, one of the big factors is the lack of minutes played which makes it difficult for him to show the quality he has.

Apart from that, this victory felt special for Real Madrid because they returned to 2nd place in the standings by successfully shifting the ranking of Atletico Madrid. This victory has also locked the champions league ticket for next season because their points will not be capable chased by the team in 5th place.
2429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 13, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
Many were disappointed with AC Milan's performance in the first leg, yes, they seemed to have lost motivation in the game so defeat was inevitable. In the second leg they will play an away match, and they have to chase 2 goals to equalize first. 2 goals is not an easy thing for them to score in a competitive match like this with Inter Milan's motivation and opportunities being bigger, because they only need to get a draw to become one of the clubs competing in the final.

AC Milan will have to implement a change in strategy in the second leg later if they want to open up their chances. They have to be able to score goals quickly, which is not easy, but with hard work and with a little luck they will be able to do it.
In the second leg match, AC Milan will have the opportunity to be strengthened again by Leao, who seems to be focusing on a recovery that is fast enough to be able to return to the team. Ac milan seems to have lost its best momentum in the Champions league this season as they lost in the first leg. Even in today's match, they again lost to a lower-ranked team in a Serie A match. I think the performance of AC Milan's players has relatively decreased after they lost to Inter Milan.

Pioli must do something to raise the fighting spirit of his team in the second leg later. He must be able to provide victory and implement a better strategy in dealing with Inter Milan. on the inter milan side they have been able to play better lately which can strengthen if they will be able to step into the champions league final this season.
2430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: May 13, 2023, 07:37:06 PM
Really a shame that such a good club gets relegated. They played some good matches against big teams but just couldnt do anything against other opponents. I predict that they will get promoted back to premier league next season but they need fresh new players because this ones didnt have that quality,shamefull that they get relegated couple of rounds before the end
Southampton have tried their best in every game they have played but they have not been able to show their best strength because the other team strength is stronger than them. after this passed from time to time and in the end Southampton became the first team to go down to the caste to the championship league this season. We may see two other teams follow in Southampton footsteps for the remainder of the season. I even see that Leicester City and Leeds have a point difference of 1 point but Leicester have the opportunity to shift Leeds ranking if they are able to win the next match.
2431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: May 13, 2023, 06:57:39 PM
I agree with you that at the beginning of the season the absence of several star players owned by Juventus affected them in the game so that the strategy implemented by the coach did not work optimally. However, with the return of players who were unable to play at the start of the season, Juventus were able to improve their performance. It is undeniable that the star-labeled players owned by Juventus have influenced their appearance.
one of the aspects that you have to measure is their appearance in the first leg where juventus seemed to be under pressure in quite a tough situation against sevilla.  In the first leg, Juventus played with a perfect squad, especially all the core players played in the first leg, but they haven't shown their quality as a really good team in home games.

That way I think Juventus will have a heavier burden on them in the second leg because Sevilla is hard to beat at home, especially since they have the determination to show a stronger performance after what they did in the first leg.
2432  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: May 11, 2023, 11:12:42 PM
This season Brighton have show a different approach to the league so well that even when Graham Potter left after a number of fantastic games won with Brighton I thought that was the end but they signed a new coach and continued in their fine form. They have been outstanding, but against Arsenal is hungry for wins to keep their title hopes on, it wouldn't be an easy game for Brighton at all.
Brighton has indeed performed well this season, but they have not been very consistent, sometimes they lose, as happened in the previous match, they suffered a big defeat at home when Brighton faced Everton. Now, when facing Arsenal, I wasn't too sure Brighton would be able to do much, let alone play at the Emirates stadium, which was quite difficult for Brighton to balance the game against Arsenal.

Arsenal are chasing wins and that is Arteta target for the remainder of the season. They still have a chance to become champions and the match against Brighton will be tried as best as possible to get 3 points so that they can stick closely to Manchester City at the top of the standings.
2433  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 11, 2023, 11:05:38 PM
Espanyol is a very weak team this season and if Espanyol were to play Barcelona in the near future, I think everyone would know which team would win the match. Because that match is a very easy match for Barcelona and will be used as an opportunity for Barcelona to get full points. This season Barcelona will win the La Liga title because Barcelona still looks very focused on this season, especially in the remaining matches that are still there.
Barcelona will ensure the title this season when they face Espanyol. If they win the match then Barcelona has locked the title in the match. Indeed, Espanyol performance in their season was quite bad, they even found it difficult to provide good resistance against their opponents. Therefore I'm pretty sure Barcelona will win the game maybe even by a big score.

Espanyol are in 19th place in the standings, they are fighting to get out of the relegation zone but this week's opponent is Barcelona and it is difficult for them to beat barcelona.
2434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 11, 2023, 11:00:01 PM
Napoli are very safe at the top and they have nothing more to fight for at the end of this season because Napoli have won the championship this season. For Atalanta and AS Roma, they actually still have a chance to reach a place in the UCL zone through Serie A this season, but Atalanta and AS Roma must expect their competitors to lose and he can win the remaining matches that are still at the end of this season.

This is a very difficult thing for Atalanta and AS Roma because the teams they expect to lose are big teams who still have the motivation to win at the end of this season, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Lazio and Juventus will still be trying to get points in the remaining remaining matches in order to maintain their position in the UCL zone this season.
The remaining matches for Napoli will probably be important for Osimhen because he can set a record by adding to the coffers of goals in the remaining matches this season. Apart from that, the final result is not important for Napoli because they have locked the Scudetto trophy in the previous match.

The remaining matches for the Serie A teams, perhaps the only interesting ones, are the matches between the teams fighting for 4th place and the teams fighting to get out of the relegation zone. If I look at the team that is at the bottom of the standings, it is likely that what concerns us all is Spezia struggle to get out of the relegation zone because they still have better expectations than the two teams below them.
2435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: May 11, 2023, 10:53:10 PM
Juventus kept pressuring until the final minutes before a goal came from Gatti with a nice assist from Pogba. It was a game between the said kings of Europa league, Sevilla and one of the biggest team in Italian Serie A. I anticipate a greater fight for victory on who to advance for the final when they play second leg by next week.
Sevilla got a draw in the first leg which was played at the Juventus stadium, now I remember when they got a draw in the previous round when they played at old trafford where the final result was 2-2 and the second leg Sevilla played nicely at home, I think the moment will probably happen again on the semi-final second leg which will be played at the Sanchez Pizjuan stadium.

If this happens, Sevilla is a candidate to win the Europa League trophy this season. However, we need to see the game in the second leg later and hope Juventus can learn from Sevilla match against Manchester United at that time. Everything must be arranged as best as possible by Juventus in securing their run in the Europa League this season.
2436  Economy / Speculation / Re: My advice to you regarding bear markets. on: May 10, 2023, 11:10:33 PM
Depends on the alternative coin you bought. Not all altcoins survive the bear market that follows the bull market.  Many projects fail because they lack a solid team and an active community that will continue to show their support for the project.

As it always stands in the crypto space, the best long-term investment plan to have is bitcoin. Having altcoins as a long-term investment plan is very risky and it can only be good in having them for short-term profits. If you checked on CMC, many of the altcoin that existed few years, are no way to be found in price in today's crypto market

Coins that survive in a bear market situation have the potential to be quite good in other respects they have strong market capitalization and a strong community and the concept of the project is already running or has been adopted by other projects. Indeed, it all depends on each other's choices, but I believe more that a bear market situation is something for us to examine the toughness of a coin in that situation.

No doubt many coins have experienced a sharp decline because they do not have a strong community or other things, their products cannot compete with other projects.  Other than that I think btc is a special thing to have in any crypto person's portfolio.
2437  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Token dan Altcoin Apa Saja yang Akan Pump Pasca Halving? on: May 10, 2023, 11:03:28 PM
Sepertinya semua jenis token crypto akan mengalami kenaikan harga mengikuti harga Bitcoin ketika halving nantinya, bisa kita lihat riwayat harga crypto pada halving Bitcoin sebelumnya hampir keseluruhan mengalami kenaikan harga sangat signifikan.
Hanya saja waktu yang akan menentukan kenaikan harga dari masing masing token crypto karena kenaikannya berlangsung satu persatu.
Mayoritas memang akan naik mengekor Bitcoin, namun biasanya yang benar-benar memiliki dasar fundamental yang cukup bagus. Kalo untuk coin/token micin naiknya karena terbawa sentimen dan ditambah ada beberapa entitas yang memanfaatkan momen tersebut untuk sebuah skema pump & dump. Nah skema P&D inilah yang perlu diwaspadai, karena pastinya rentan FOMO.
Memang benar dasar fundamental dan kapitalisasi pasar yang besar akan membuat coin tersebut bergerak cukup cepat jika harga btc naik. akan tetapi jika coin micin tentu saja sangat sulit mengikuti hal tersebut karena coin micin naik ketika hype doang misal burn atau hal yang lain yang dilakukan developers untuk menarik minat para calon investor.

Coin coin top 50 cmc layak untuk di miliki dalam portofolio dan menurut keyakinan masing masing mau milih yang mana, yang pastinya semua harus ada keyakinan yang kuat dalam pendirian masing masing.

2438  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Alasan Untuk Tidak Trading Uang Pinjam on: May 10, 2023, 10:58:52 PM
hehe trading pake duit besar dan minjem itu big no no buat saya..
apalagi di crypto yang event black swamnya ampir tiap bulan  Grin

Terakhir minjem buat trading itu sebelum LUNA Crash..lebih2 saat itu ane trading pake lev  Cheesy..jadi sebelum LUNA nyungsep ke -0$ ane lagi trade pair luna-usdt..sempet berada di angka 60-70$ posisi ane long LUNA dan underwater..posisi mau kena margin call dan itu ada duit temen ane, biar selamet ya terpaksa melepas beberapa asset nft ane buat topup,,eh ane kira bakal minimal breakevent luna malah makin dalem wwkwkw..yaudah lah ane cutloss aja yang penting duit orang bisa ane balikin. Modal sisa 10% doang setelah kejadian over lev dan minjem duit orang itu.

Sejak itu sih ane mikir lebih baik trading pake duit sendiri karena resikonya lebih kecil hehehe, high reward high risk emang dah. Senggaknya tidur lebih nyenyak sedkit karena gak ada yang terror minta balikin duit xD

Saya pernah melakukan suatu pinjaman saat saat tahun 2020 pada teman saya dan pada saat itu mungkin situasi market lagi baik baiknya sehingga tidak ada tekanan yang terjadi pada diri saya pada saat saya mengambil pinjaman dan berhasil melunaskan secepat mungkin ketika saya mendapatkan keuntungan dalam periode tersebut, hal ini hanya sekali saya lakukan selebihnya saya tidak berani lagi karena situasi market yang saat ini sulit di prediksi. Kasus luna, ftx menjadi hal yang menakutkan untuk mengambil pinjaman guna trading dan itu adalah resiko yang cukup besar bila mana situasi market berubah secara cepat.

Selain itu saya setuju dengan anda, bertrading dengan uang sendiri lebih nyaman, apalagi hanya bermain di perdagangan spot yang tentu saja tidak terbebani ketika harga turun karena bisa di hold dalam situasi hal tersebut.
2439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: May 10, 2023, 10:51:04 PM
The match roma vs leverkusen really hard to predict. There's no reliable data to see that how good the head to head between roma vs leverkusen. I guess if bookies were also confusing with it caused by there are only slightly gap betwen both.

FYI, Two italians have been successfully going to the semi final of UCL. 1 will be qualified for final.
This time there are two italians in the europa league and i guess that one of these italian will be going to the final of europa league.
Italian teams are lucky enough this season.

Picking italian teams are don't seem to be a bad choice at this moment. Leverkusen is strong but we shouldn't underestimate Roma as it can make its comeback anytime.

Juventus is also even better than roma.
From the other side the bookie will look at the percentage of the two teams in their respective leagues that they can do in giving these two teams the right odds. The achievements that have been made by these two teams are quite impressive in the Europa League. I even see that Leverkusen has been quite consistent under Alonso.

These two teams have the same capital of defeat in their meetings in the Europa League so it will be a little difficult for us to guess who is the best between the two. But I see that Roma chances in this first leg are bigger to win the game because the first they leg is the host.
2440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 10, 2023, 10:44:14 PM
Hard to predict the situation in the next three games for both teams, but I think this time Bayern Munich will not lose the chance and let Dortmund get the first place of the takeback because the there remaining game of Bayern Muinch is not hard for them to say they are going to have issues in the next weeks.

I think bayern munich will become the bundesliga champion and maintain their dominance in the bundesliga, they were eliminated in the DFB and also the Champions League so one of their hopes is a bundesliga trophy which will be a trophy for them this season. So thus Tuchel will set a stronger strategy in every game in the hope of getting 3 points to maintain his ranking as the leader of the standings. Another good luck for Bayern Munich is in terms of an opponent that on paper they can beat easily.

However, unexpected things often happen to Bayern Munich where they often get draws this season which makes the final result beyond our expectations. For dortmund if they can continue to win in the upcoming match they automatically have a better chance every week to shift bayern munich's ranking.
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