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24201  Local / Новости / Re: Прощай доллар, здравствуй биткоин! on: November 14, 2013, 02:28:58 PM
а чем вам зеки не нравяться?  Ну нарушат там разок че-нить, а в остальное время милейшие и честнейшие люди!

"Тебя посодют, а ты не воруй!" Grin
24202  Local / Новости / Re: Прощай доллар, здравствуй биткоин! on: November 14, 2013, 12:01:55 PM
доллары запрещают
http://news.mail.ru/politics/15622645/?frommail=1

Эту тему с завидной периодичностью пробивают с самого начала 90-х годов... Cool

Сначала хотели нефть за рубли продавать, потом международный финансовый центр предполагали замутить... Grin
24203  Local / Новости / Re: Прощай доллар, здравствуй биткоин! on: November 14, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Думаю было бы весело выделить какую-нить небольшую зону, где дуракам дать волю, и посмотреть что получиться...
(вон сколько народу в тюрьмах сидит - взяли бы да провели экономический эксперимент на них по внедрению
идиоцких предложений депутатов в жизнь, а потом уже и самих депутатов туда-же на вечное поселение и уже
обоснованно на основе данных эксперимента.  Как идея?.. 

Да там половина зеков себе сразу вены вскроет, а другая половина останется депутатов ждать... Grin
24204  Local / Новости / Re: Прощай доллар, здравствуй биткоин! on: November 14, 2013, 11:57:40 AM
похоже хотят опустить рубль ниже плинтуса?..
(что будет вообще смешно тк реальный курс 1:1 и сейчас пока у нас через рубль воруют только 97%,
а хотят похоже все 99% - тогда бы уж лучше сразу на рабовладельческий строй переходили)

tvv,  как я понял, "реальный курс 1:1" это у вас такая идея фикс? С чем связано, если не секрет, в 98 году денег потеряли? Grin
24205  Economy / Economics / Re: We might break $1000 before the end of year because of the number 8 on: November 14, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
My western tour group made fun of the fact that it may have been used as toilet paper as it is a luxury in China's public toilets

Laughing my ass off! Grin
24206  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 1.2BTC/month just by posting! on: November 14, 2013, 11:15:07 AM
I've decided to honor the November 17th price I set despite the btc price rise. Anyone who does not get 50 posts by then and request payment will be paid a reduced price in December with is TBD.

Sounds good! Grin

Be a price leader, not a price taker! Your market share will reduce rapidly if you don't bro!

Guys, I don't say you should quit your jobs and switch to writing posts here (provided you have something valuable to say in the first place Grin), but the price for our sigs remains handsome even after the reduction in contrast to all those dull and stupid faucets (though the market share may still shrink Cool)
24207  Local / Обменники / Re: [ОПЛАТЫ] сотового телефона, онлайн игр и пр. on: November 14, 2013, 09:42:05 AM
все норм. странно что нет пока желающих магазин свой подключить.. толи народ не в курсе толи чего...

Ну посмотрел я на сайт, дизайн примитивен и уныл до безобразия (хотя лично мне пофиг), но самому искать ссылку и вставлять - увольте... Grin
24208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears thread - unleash the bear in you in this thread on: November 14, 2013, 09:08:50 AM
Think about it -- a proof of work system is too perfect for them. Yes, it does remove the need for trusted authorities, but it also removes the need to trust the populace.  If all payments are on a public blockchain, tax can be built into the protocol. The need for traditional taxmen and auditors goes away.

Yes, but they would have to change the protocol at first... Would Bitcoin remain Bitcoin then, and (what is even more important) would it have any utility after that? Grin

Also, how are you going to prevent double taxation issues (provided anonimity is preserved)? Cool
24209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears thread - unleash the bear in you in this thread on: November 14, 2013, 09:02:32 AM
Actually, cryptocurrencies may well be the future -- for governments as well as us.

Governments love power... so I believe they will take the opportunity to embrace and extend cryptocurrencies. To the point that libertarians hate them.

You're a bit late!  Grin
They already have payment cards and non-cash transactions (free of the "inconveniences" Bitcoin comes with)... Cool
24210  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears thread - unleash the bear in you in this thread on: November 14, 2013, 08:32:09 AM
We do not live in a totalitarian system, despite what Libertarians will tell you. We still have a free, if unequal, democracy.
Heh, what's it smell like?

These "free democracy" folks always forget how gold was forbidden by Roosevelt in 1933  Cool
But I never fail to remind them of this unfortunate fact... Grin
24211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears thread - unleash the bear in you in this thread on: November 14, 2013, 07:52:21 AM
All this talk of bitcoin being banned in the U.S.

Newsflash, BTC is not getting banned in the U.S. That is about as obvious as the noses on our faces. We do not live in a totalitarian system, despite what Libertarians will tell you. We still have a free, if unequal, democracy.

I'm not saying BTC is getting banned in the US. Actually, I said if it was banned (read, would be banned)... Grin
24212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears thread - unleash the bear in you in this thread on: November 14, 2013, 07:49:49 AM
I'm not saying they should drop their national currencies. Just that they don't move to ban the use of crypto currencies. They just take a hands off approach and allow it to develop and run its course.
Plenty of countries have already done that.  The most friendly one being Germany I believe that declared Bitcoin private money.

Any substantial displacement of some local currency with Bitcoin would mean proportional devaluation of this currency. And you still insist that governments will be nodding approvingly or just stay impartial? While Bitcoin remains some analogy of gold, it makes no sense to ban it. If it enters circulation in any considerable amount (which is very unlikely due to Bitcoin's nature) i.e. becomes a currency, there will be
24213  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears thread - unleash the bear in you in this thread on: November 14, 2013, 07:34:42 AM
The China/America thing was only to illustrate a point. You also have Europe, Russia, Africa, South America to consider - Basically all it takes is one country to say, 'fuck it, we love Bitcoin - do as you please' and they become the hub of all Bitcoin activity overnight. Then the fact that Bitcoin will still be functional in every other country means that there will probably still be people in those countries using it regardless of legality (as is observed with the prohibition of cannabis, for example)

What you say in pratice would mean that all those countries should drop their national currencies (or at least put Bitcoin on a par with them which would mean they don't value their own currency). How come?

I'm not saying they should drop their national currencies. Just that they don't move to ban the use of crypto currencies. They just take a hands off approach and allow it to develop and run its course.

I got your point... Cool

If it is banned in the USA, the ban will have devastating repercussions throughout the world. This in effect would mean that you won't be able to legally buy Bitcoin for dollars (even if you are buying outside the United States), with all ensuing consequences thereof
24214  Local / Барахолка / Re: Продам! необычное)) БРДМ-2 on: November 14, 2013, 07:13:49 AM
придет добрый модер и всех наградит бананами Smiley

Кое-кого можно и на пожизненную диету посадить... Grin
24215  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 1.2BTC/month just by posting! on: November 13, 2013, 09:19:15 PM
I don't see why stunna is lowering the price, even though bitcoins is 300 dollars. Whatever the price is, I still bet the same amount. I bet around 0.1 when it was 100 and I still bet 0.1 even though it's 300 dollars. Your revenue should pretty much still be the same no matter what the price is. This is just my opinion.

Probably, number of participants increased?
24216  Economy / Economics / Re: Could a government supplant Bitcoin? on: November 13, 2013, 07:58:10 PM
Wow deisik, you surprised me. Your two most recent posts were astute. Indeed the First and Second Industrial Revolutions. And now we are in the First Computer Revolution which is maturing towards the coming Second.

Don't really care about your opinion, you just think too much of yourself really... Grin
Also, I didn't say anything new, and if you think that you did... then lol Grin
24217  Economy / Economics / Re: Could a government supplant Bitcoin? on: November 13, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
Also, the time period you mention was marked by a train of successive economic crises at the end of each economic cycle, which had finally led to the war in Europe (known as WWI) and Great Depression in the USA. After that the gold standard was de facto dismantled
24218  Economy / Economics / Re: Could a government supplant Bitcoin? on: November 13, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
The most productive period per annum in the history of mankind was 1871-1913, the time of the gold standard. (Disagree?)

- Money supply was not only bullion, it was augmented with real bills. (Real bills can be implemented with bitcoin, if bitcoin is the quote currency.)
- Debt was kept in check by the natural mechanism as debt was not money, only bullion was (and real bills acted as money without strictly being that).

Actually, it all started in the early 19th centrury and primarily was due to technological advances (electricity, chemistry, railways, etc)
24219  Economy / Economics / Re: Could a government supplant Bitcoin? on: November 13, 2013, 07:10:17 PM
If I spelled it out for you, then I couldn't accomplish my goal. Yet I already told you upthread what my goal is; you are not paying attention.

You told me? Huh
24220  Economy / Economics / Re: Could a government supplant Bitcoin? on: November 13, 2013, 07:00:54 PM
He as a beta-male is still following his notion that the alpha-male is the one who the group kneels down to, so he is testing whether I have that political power. He doesn't understand the real alpha-male controls without being seen, because he is more rational and understands the game theory better than the beta-males do.

So what are you doing here? Grin
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