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24221  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hillary Clinton to Announce 2016 Run for President on Sunday on: April 17, 2015, 03:56:37 AM
america is such a democratic country.. after the first ninja president, a woman! you guise are an example for the rest of the world.

PS: lets not spend the multi billions in campaign this time and get it done with already uh. not like we dont know the obvious winner.


hahaha....nice one.
But why are you against it my dear friend. Did she do something harm to you?
24222  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS impregnates 9-year-old girl on: April 17, 2015, 03:55:09 AM
This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

That will make us, one of them. Don't you think.

We need to be civilized while dealing with such kind of people. You dont have to be a criminal when punishing a criminal.
24223  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shock claim: Turkey provided 10,000 passports to ISIS on: April 17, 2015, 03:53:28 AM
TEL AVIV – Egypt is accusing Turkey of providing more than 10,000 Turkish passports to members of ISIS, the Islamic State, to facilitate travel of fighters across the region.

An Egyptian intelligence official who asked not to be named told WND his country delivered a report to the U.S. documenting the astonishing claim


 http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/shock-claim-turkey-provided-10000-passports-to-isis/#vdPTTAQPE2uV0TmR.99



That's really interesting to read. Where the hell they are getting these many passports.
But what is Turkey is getting out of it? Any ideas?
24224  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is an imaginary concept, but humanity is enslaved by it on: April 17, 2015, 03:51:37 AM
In fact time has almost equal value to everyone. Each person owns about the same amount of time during his entire life. But unfortunately, time can not be transferred



Not really, some people die at 20 some people die at 90. Should we have a "time welfare" where we would take out the "life energy" of 50 year olds who could live till 90, and let them die at 50, and give it to the 20 year old that would die in 20 just to live till 50, is that moral?

Time socialism?


You get maximum 2 magnitudes of difference, while in fiat money, money creators can claim trillions of fiat money with a flip of a pen and many people barely make their ends meet

If you want to define something's value to be universally equal to everyone, thus can be used as a unit of value, then fiat money is definitely not a good candidate, since it worth so little for the money creator while worth so much for poor people. However, if you take 10 years time, it would worth similar to any one with normal health: 1/7 of his life

Its not about time but work output some are faster.

Is there any output more valuable than life itself? Of course when your life is threatened by not getting enough food and shelter, those things seems more important than time, but in today's society, those basic needs are never a problem in most of the countries

if you think like that then you have never been to countries like Malawi, Niger, South Sudan, India, China.
There are people who can't afford to drink clean water. Two times food will be counted as a luxury for them. Go out and see the world, dear.
24225  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is not a bubble on: April 17, 2015, 03:48:44 AM
Bitcoin is a bubble. It's basically the year 2000 where companies become overvalued and such.

It should burst anytime. Most likely during the block halving next year.

I totally disagree. If it was a bubble it should have burst when it was on it's highest peak. Now there is no point for it to burst.
24226  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: April 17, 2015, 03:47:20 AM
I agree with what's been said. It is not worth it, having limitless campaigns like Bit-X any posting you could do with another account could be done with your main account. So why bother?

Because then people will think that you engaging in a conversation. If you have the single account then many post will probably label you as a spammer.
24227  Economy / Economics / Re: EUR might drop below USD on: April 17, 2015, 03:45:43 AM
@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.

@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.

Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes.

Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception.

So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line.

So no sources, just speculation? I'm not saying there aren't problems. But you have to work with what you have. At the moment that's a form of democracy. Referendums help bring issues to public attention. And to start debates. Far from perfect, but what are you proposing instead? And I mean realistic proposals with what we have now.


see, every system has it's own problem. You see  China is struggling with it's system. No human right, so much frustration.
County like India is struggling with it's democracy as well.
Middle east countries are also struggling with their kingdom structure.
Everyone is fed up.
We need a rest button.
24228  Economy / Economics / Re: US Dollar collapse in 2015? (2) on: April 17, 2015, 03:42:01 AM
But one can not be at both side when the time will come. One has to take a side and prepare herself/himself for that by investing inn the appropriate mode of investment he thinks will be best for him/her.

I would place most of my money on the side that is a pretty safe bet right now (ie the dollar and associated assets), and a small portion on the assets that are speculative right now but would be a huge win if they came through (ie against the dollar system.)

Yeah that will be very wise decision because Dollar is thought to be the strongest one right now. But do diversity your investment so that you will have less risk and more profit.
24229  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: April 17, 2015, 03:40:25 AM
I just want to buy a house a sports car an have a solid income. I think as how much i invested in bitcoin i can earn that in a few years when it will be mainstream.

Of course i`ll continue to invest until old age, i dont really trust government retirement ponzi schemes, so i have to make my own income.

Government only give in form of pension as it thinks is necessary for your survival. It will not cover the luxuries you are talking about. For that you will have to have a solid source of income.
24230  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 17, 2015, 03:38:50 AM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

Investment is a kind of savings. If you are doing savings then you can not keep it in the cash form with you. You will have to invest it in Fixed deposit, Real state, gold or shares, etc.
Investment is a kind of savings I disagree with that because, investing have a risk that your money would be lost or earn a profits. Also investing take too much time than saving. Saving takes 3-5 years before you stop to save (it depends on your salary every month) but in investing takes 10-15 years depends on the contract and the company (you wouldn't assure that your money can earn or will be lost its) its 50%-50%. And f you invest you can earn more profits by using the compound interest it can earn more profit as years passes by than simple interest.

Not totally true. There are some investment tool available which has zero risk and will give you return in 3-5 years as well. That will totally depends upon the risk profile of the individual and his requirements.
Yeah theres some but its hard to find that company that zero risk. And if its only 3-5 years you profit is not high because your time is not so long and it depends on the interest of that company where your profit are big or small.

many banks offers 1-3% max of annual interest, but you need to freeze your account for one year, they should be pretty safe as far as i know, it's not like playing ponzi with bitcoin for sure...

but overall is a very tiny amount, not sure it worth it to freeze your account for one year, i know that i won't do that...
But the interest is so low. If i invest i would not invest to the company that have only 1-3% because after 5-10 years my profit will be small and the interest is only simple interest . If the interes is compound and its annual interest is 1-3% i think i will invest, because it compound interest and assure to myself that i will earn a big profits.


But in countries like India, Banks are giving 7-10% annual interest rate depending upon the amount, bank and maturity tenure. So that's not very bad compare to what you are refereeing to.
24231  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 17, 2015, 03:34:06 AM
Why do you think gold will get rarer with time? It doesn't age, its production is pretty consistent through years (actually, slowly increasing). If you say that there are more people on the planet and thus less gold per capita, then you should take into consideration actual demand for it (meaning that even if it does become rarer, there maybe still less demand for it nevertheless)...

A significant portion of the gold produced is bought by central banks and institutions which do not intend to resell them. This gold is effectively removed from the market. Once gold production decreases (it eventually will, when existing gold mines run out of gold), there will be an imbalance in demand-supply. There will be demand for gold from jewellers and from people who don't trust central banks (and bitcoins.  Tongue)

To say that gold will become rarer since gold mines will run out of gold one day seems to me wishful thinking of the same kind that bitcoin will hit 1 million dollar mark another day. It may indeed happen, but personally I wouldn't hope for that (meaning that such a possibility wouldn't in the least affect my economic decisions)...

Why did they not run out of gold some fifty years ago already?

Because there is still so much of Gold available to fulfill the world demand. And anyway the 50 years back Gold was not that much in demand. In the last 20 years, there was a steep demand.

Ironically, exactly 50 years ago (that is in 1965) the president of France Charles de Gaulle demanded the US to exchange France's dollar reserves for gold at the official exchange rate (which considerably depleted the US gold reserves). This ultimately led to Richard Nixon declaring the end of the convertibility of the dollar to gold in 1971...

Are you still going to argue that there was not that much demand for physical gold back then?

Oh I didn't know that. But yes I will still stick to my point. I was actually talking about Gold demand from General public. Now a days, everyone wants to do some investment in form of Gold.
24232  Economy / Economics / Re: If Greece defaults on: April 17, 2015, 03:31:44 AM
........

Its democracy, what did you expected. Every idiot who can put a stamp on a piece of paper can project his own insecurity and foolishness onto the other people, therefore every democracy will fail as a result.

You know my guess is that every fucking democracy on earn will end up leftist/socialist, because the ever growing debt thats accumulated by bribing voters, will result in a perpetual tax increase to pay off the interest on the bonds.


You underestimate the intelligence of people.  Smiley
In this globalized world, people can look at different countries and see how capitalist / socialist economies have fared. One of the reasons why communist regimes collapsed is that people realized life in capitalist countries was much better.

I`m not communist bro, i`m voluntaryst/libertarian like Mike. I`m against democracy because it's just another scam of the tyrants to fool people into subjugating their individuality before the collective.

The tyrants always like to pull up mirages before their slaves to make them think they are free, when they are obviously not. Democracy is one of them. It's very far from freedom.

For freedom to be achieved the collective must be dismantled.


You see, democracy is the best mirage among all the mirage. That's why most countries are moving towards it. Even, look at the Middle East Spring...they all are running for it.

24233  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 17, 2015, 03:27:49 AM

Yeah, most people don't realize they can easily city out 10-20% by getting rid of additional expenses/impulse buys. Skip the $4 cup of coffee every day. Don't grab a bag of chips, smokes and a soda every time you get gas, drink water when you go out to eat, change you cable/phone plan (do you even need cable these days???), etc. Cutting your expenses should be your first goal .

Yea i dont drink coffe, i rarely eat chips, i dont smoke, and i dont have a car.

I live on pretty small amounts of money, and i save the rest in my bank account and other investments, trying to shift myself into bitcoin more.

I also dont have debt and never had any. I dont use credit card nor other fraudulent items.

Then you must be a saint Smiley
That's really surprising to see such a person on internet.
24234  Economy / Economics / Re: EUR might drop below USD on: April 17, 2015, 03:26:24 AM
@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.

@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.

Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes.

Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception.

So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line.

If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship?
24235  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 16, 2015, 03:33:01 AM
When consumption comprises 70% of the US economy, economists and the government view savings as extremely negative. They actively try to get every American to spend every dollar they have. It's one of the great moral bankruptcies of economists and the US government. They encourage people to be in a situation where "retirement" means a cardboard box and dog food.

That's what now a days every country is trying. They want their people spend to every single penny they have. So that there will be more spending, so more manufacturing, more growth.
24236  Economy / Economics / Re: EUR might drop below USD on: April 16, 2015, 03:01:13 AM
If Greece leaves the Euro zone, that would make the Euro stronger, and that may happen.
Greece's exit from the Euro—if it happens—can bring a host of troubles upon Greece and Europe, but scenarios for a rosy outcome are much less likely.

The euro model have not been created to last forever. First they create that, then they overuse the benefit of the system and then they look for a new system. The whole Europe except a few countries will be on Greece's footpath.
24237  Economy / Economics / Re: Poland will probably exit deflation this year on: April 16, 2015, 02:59:01 AM
Although a stronger PLN may extend the period of deflation, a turning point has been reached in the deflationary cycle that began in August 2014.

The CPI bottomed out in February, and after increasing in March, and it will likely gradually increase in the forthcoming months, turning positive again by the end of Q4 15.

The central bank expects deflation to come in at -0.5% yoy at the end of 2015. The Ministry of Finance expects the country to exit deflation sooner than the central bank is forecasting.

It is possible, however, that a stronger PLN and volatile oil prices create uncertainty around the ministry's expectation.
 
"In its recent World Economic Outlook, the International Monetary Fund forecast Poland's CPI to accelerate to 0.4% yoy at the end of this year. In our opinion, it will instead be in the range of 0.1-0.3%", said Societe Generale in a report on Thursday

(Source: www.fxwirebeat.com/news)

No I don't think so. Poland is going to take much more time that we all are thinking. Btw which report you are referring to?
24238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is this the end of bitcoin? on: April 16, 2015, 02:56:17 AM
Bitcoin is the Yahoo of digital currency. The AOL. The Compuserve. The dial-up modem plugged into a landline.
That there are now thousands of these Bitcoins hiding all over creation, and the world is actually providing goods and services for these Bitcoins (meaning they are officially "currency") presents a challenge to entities interested in MONEY.
Never forget: MONEY=FREEDOM.
If Bitcoin was bound for the price of $1000, or $10,000 in the year 2140, it would be there NOW.
Bitcoin is a magnificent model for a worldwide digital currency that will soon be replaced and "mined" by the likes of IBM, the Bank of England, the Federal Reserve and other multi-billion dollar entities.
Every Yahoo has it's Google.
 
It may be true in the IT department and in general business things are not that simple as there are not always better choice to follow. People in bitcoin world are just being extremely wavering. They know that bitcoin is something to follow but from the other side they refuse to fully back it up. That is just problem of our decentralized bitcoin society.


IT industry and others are just afraid because they don't want to be in a mess if something happen with Bitcoin. It still has no legal backing.
24239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's say satoshi is cashing out 1million BTC on: April 16, 2015, 02:53:47 AM
I think that basically there is not enough depth market for that huge amount of bitcoin
But he could create an auction and he would probably sell them.

Just disgressing,nobody has 1million bitcoin, not even satoshi

people like to think he has 1 million bitcoin as that is super exciting. satoshi could have dumped his coins at much better price ranges. but then again, i don't believe he has as it would make him less anonymous.


No one is sure how many Bitcoin he might be having but he has created it not for public service. But does anyone have any idea what is the total number of Bitcoin present right now all over the world?
24240  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Stop getting trolled by taxes, it's time to put an end to Tax Day on: April 16, 2015, 02:50:01 AM
great project

I wonder how to ensure the safety of pool's money , are there some kinds of multisig or precautions to prevent the pool keeper takes all bitcoins run away like evolution ?


That will the most difficult task because no one can trust other person so it will be very difficult to come up with a solution to safeguard the pool money. Does anyone have any idea?
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