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2441  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Episode 1 of The Daily Bitcoin Show on: April 09, 2013, 03:22:25 PM
Very good. I listened from start to finish and was engaged for pretty much all of it.

Funny thing is, i was communicating with a business owner on here recently, about the idea of a Radio Show, although mine would have been live.
I hope this can develop into a segmented package of guests, competitions, phone-ins, news, events, information, and even bitcoin adverts, maybe!

I will be listening again. Good luck with this.
2442  Economy / Auctions / Re: AUCTION - 8 rolls of new 0.5BTC Casascius Coins on: April 09, 2013, 09:00:14 AM
Mike. No one can criticize you for seeking a 'reasonable' rate. Just dont think its your business to create the market, you state is there. Your value is in your production methods and integrity, not trying to build Ebay-esk markets. Moreover, does it not cheapen it?
Just dont think people will understand why you just cant state a fair price.

If the rate I charge is too low, the entire production will fly off the shelf and I will be stuck with willing and ready buyers willing to pay a far higher price than the one I'm charging, with no product to deliver them.  Whom exactly does that benefit?

On the other hand, if I happen to make a nice profit in the process, I end up with the means to increase production and quality.  I can suddenly afford, and make the business case, to go find and get some robotics to make enough of these things to satisfy the market demand, possibly at a lower price.  I can suddenly tell my silver coin supplier, hey, look, you need to prioritize my order, because I can afford to pay you for bigger orders at a higher tier.  I can start to afford to segregate the created products by quality and simply discard the lowest quality specimens so I'm only delivering the best of my product.  Ultimately, profits for me are good, because they directly lead to my ability and willingness to supply the market with a higher quality cut of the product being demanded.

So, no, it does not cheapen it, to answer your question.  And when the price I'm willing to sell equals the price people are willing to pay, it's very fair.  I will have competitors offering a lower cost product soon enough, probably using software I've given away for free and broadcast loud and clear "use this at no cost to you" to generate private keys for their own product, which I think is more than fair.

Ok. Im just going to make a few points one more time, and then im done.

Just to echo molecular points. If someone/reseller had an idea to sell your coins in a business like/defined way, they can no longer do that due to supply being inconsistent and/or disrupted (you dont seem confident how and when these will go on sale, going forward). This, together with unknown prices from one auction to the next, does not instill any confidence, in a possible opportunity or benefit for a re-seller, other than pure speculation, which is where the magic starts to dissolve and dissipate!  Sad
      
Ive read your thoughts about competitors elsewhere, as well as here, so it appears a firm belief for you, that some other outfit is going to challenge and compete directly with what you have created here. Mike, its not going to happen, anytime soon. Im wondering if your perspective/position, is allowing you to fully appreciate the value in brand Casascius. Yes, someone could challenge you, and possibly should, but for others to replicate what you have built in terms of integrity, value, and desire, is years away, if at all.

Im done. Thanks for the attention.
 


 
2443  Economy / Auctions / Re: AUCTION - 8 rolls of new 0.5BTC Casascius Coins on: April 08, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
This will only work for products I produce from today forward, but here is an idea you can do right now.  The counterfeiting hasn't happened yet.  Go throw your current stash of Casascius Coins on a scanner, scan a photo of them, take a 160-bit hash of the file, and then work that hash into the block chain somehow.  Convert the hash to a bitcoin address and send a satoshi to it (my Bitcoin Address Utility can do this, for example).  Your photo with its supporting hash in the block chain will be publicly verifiable proof that the coin in your photo existed today.

Awesome idea. Thanks for sharing!

That is a great idea. Thanks also.
2444  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is UK so slow to jump on this? on: April 08, 2013, 09:04:44 PM
Just found this...... http://venetfx.com/ + http://bit4x.com/ which are affiliated.
 
Isnt quite what we are after, as you cant trade bitcoins....you trade with, bitcoins. Progress though, i guess.

From a quick look, the first site (VenetFX) is an actual FX trading platform, regulated by the FSA, whereas the second is a separate, non-regulated service, that piggybacks on VenetFX's platform to provide trading on FX pairs (probably with pass-through prices). Accepting only BTC as payments, and counting PnL in BTC, is a way to bypass the requirement for FSA regulation (no need for regulation if you don't take deposits, and because bitcoin is still not recognised as currency in the UK, they are not technically handling clients' money). Personally, if I wanted to trade FX, I would prefer to deal with an FSA regulated platform.

The only advantage as i see it, is the leverage. But then, 95% of FX traders, do not turn a mid-long term profit!
2445  Economy / Auctions / Re: AUCTION - 8 rolls of new 0.5BTC Casascius Coins on: April 08, 2013, 08:50:44 PM
If I have to worry about licensing and who's entitled and not entitled to sell in different countries, then I have to manage a whole lot of things that I am deliberately trying to get out of managing.

I could see myself raising the minimum lot size.  It's a matter of balance.  If the lot size is too small, then individual collectors will bid on them directly, choking out the possibility of emergence of a reseller market.  If the lot size is too big, a lot of valued potential resellers will be shut out of the bidding process, and I see a value to having lots of resellers because a buyer should ideally be able to find a seller in his home country so he doesn't have to deal with international shipping.

I totally understand it may seem disheartening for those of you who have shown enthusiasm, interest, and loyalty to me and my products only to be transitioned to an arrangement where you're competing to buy products with newcomers who aren't.  I ask you put it in perspective.  The dynamics of the market changed overnight, and I am responding to them, appropriately I would hope.

The only thing I can promise is that I will respond true to my own values, which have not changed overnight.  Allow me to reward those who have shown enthusiasm, interest, and loyalty, with respect and favors of the same kind.  Me sending out or offering a closed bidding opportunity on some sort of rare or special items, or giving them as gifts, would be an example of me returning a favor.  Turning my back to the market and rewarding a favor with a fractional monopoly on all of my products and sacrificing my rational self-interest in getting a reasonable market-based wholesale price for the market's new valuation of product is something I'm going to see as a wee bit more weighty than a favor.



Mike. No one can criticize you for seeking a 'reasonable' rate. Just dont think its your business to create the market, you state is there. Your value is in your production methods and integrity, not trying to build Ebay-esk markets. Moreover, does it not cheapen it?
Just dont think people will understand why you just cant state a fair price.


  

2446  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is UK so slow to jump on this? on: April 08, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
Just found this...... http://venetfx.com/ + http://bit4x.com/ which are affiliated.
 
Isnt quite what we are after, as you cant trade bitcoins....you trade with, bitcoins. Progress though, i guess.
2447  Economy / Auctions / Domain: www.marketbitcoin.com on: April 08, 2013, 05:39:29 PM
Just putting out there. What would you bid?      www.marketbitcoin.com
2448  Economy / Auctions / Re: AUCTION - 8 rolls of new 0.5BTC Casascius Coins on: April 08, 2013, 05:15:24 PM
Forgot to add..... country centric markings also mitigate the loss of confidence around the world, due to the fraud that will operate in this space soon.

As you were.
2449  Economy / Goods / Re: Casascius Coins + Blanks. UK/GBP Bank Transfer on: April 08, 2013, 04:57:39 PM
so you have seen the privkey for those blanks?


Ive 'seen' them because its unavoidable since it all comes on uncovered sheets. Its designed to be a kit for the purchaser to 'make' the coins.....which is obviously flawed unless your name is Mike Caldwell!
So to clarify, im not selling a DIY funded coin, im selling a coin that could be loaded by the purchaser by doing it themselves, and the privkey/QR supplied is a demonstration of what you need, to generate yourself, which you can do here..... http://casascius.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/bitcoin-address-utility/

I guess its a good thing to raise, because if someone were to unthinkingly use the supplied keys, you haven't really understood the security of keys.  Shocked
2450  Economy / Auctions / Re: AUCTION - 8 rolls of new 0.5BTC Casascius Coins on: April 08, 2013, 03:43:48 PM
Im interested in how this plays out, but with respect, i just cant help feeling this is not the way to go.

I say again, respect and admiration to Mike for bringing the Bit Coin to where it is today. It has grown with valued credibility, through the consistency of Mike's process, and the transparent way he sets out his stall, and how it has all been executed. And all that gave confidence to the cause.

All im asking is, does Mike's recent changes and apparent indecision to the process of selling, somehow dilute any consolidated confidence?
And im asking that, because its healthy  Wink

Personally, i think theres something in licensing each country with a defined amount of resellers. Mike achieves the block orders he is seeking with the same trusted but lesser in number clients, the resellers get credibility from Mikes credible (maybe legal) licensing, enhanced by country centric markings on the coins, there-by making them more desirable to collect around the world.

What say you?
2451  Economy / Goods / Re: Casascius Coins + Blanks. UK/GBP Bank Transfer on: April 08, 2013, 01:48:28 PM
Still have coins left. Hoping feedback will be left here, also.

Thanks
2452  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is UK so slow to jump on this? on: April 07, 2013, 10:27:17 PM
MtGox UK bank account was closed with Barclays

Barclays own PingIt

One would suspect they don't want a virtual currency competing with their own.

Absolutely. Bitcoin is a competitor for the banks on at least two fronts:

1. loss of transactions: much faster and cheaper for people to do themselves via Bitcoin.

2. loss of bank balances: since the banks don't offer Bitcoin accounts, they lose out on lending capital as well.


Not true on either point.

1. Within the UK we have free and instant faster payments. For transfers abroad, given the cost of converting to and from BTC on either end, it's cheaper to use banks and services such as transferwise.

2. Banks do not depend on deposits in order to lend, only on capital. People removing their GBP from their accounts in order to buy BTC does not affect the bank's capital and therefore its capacity to lend at all. People borrowing and lending in BTC p2p market is equally threatening to banks as p2p lending in services such as Zopa, i.e. not much if at all.

Utter crap.

Can you please contact Lloyds Tsb and tell them to stop charging me whenever I transfer money to a bank in a different country then? And whilst you're at it, tell them to stop charging businesses (my own included) to stop charging me for using card services (so my customers can use debit/credit cards). And thats 'internal' within the UK. You'll have to get in touch with Natwest and Barclays and Lloyds, and whichever other banks that I don't use.

Because apparently these major banks (and I suspect RBS and Bank of England also) don't realise that according to you its 'free' and 'instant' to use debit/credit cards.

Can you also ask them wtf is up with a debit/credit card charge taking 3-7 days to go through since it's 'instant'.

And .. ye ... IF I'm transferring £1 million into btc, then the 0.6% transfer rate IS gonna be a bit more costly than £10, but if I was transferring £1 mil, tbh, I wouldn't care about a £10 charge ..

On point 2 .. you really think that a bank with 0 capital would not effect their capital and their ability to lend to suckers ..? What planet are you on? Seriously ... trolololol much?

If I had a billion £ in a bank (or 100,000 people took out £1,000) and took it all out to change to btc, you bet your ass they'd notice and it WOULD affect their capital.

To be fair, maybe you just have lack of understanding of economics, either that or you're a blatant troll.

It would be nice if you read what I wrote instead of putting words on my mouth.

On point 1, I said it's free and practically instant to use Faster Payments, not debit/credit cards. Isn't this the case?
Debit/credit card usage of course is NOT free, but this is not an apples to apples comparison, as these methods offer a certain degree of protection so it's really a different product. To compare on similar terms, you can set up a system where you accept payments via Faster Payments, then you won't have to pay a fee. As a professional, you can certainly be paid that way, I have paid people like this many times.
For transfers abroad, you can use services as transferwise or similar ones, for a total cost less than the one it currently takes to transfer back and forth between fiat1 -> BTC -> fiat2. I've transferred between GBP, EUR and USD several times paying a total of 0.5% for the FX conversion compared to interbank prices, for example, if GBP=1.5338USD right now, I would pay 10k GBP to get USD 15261 in the US without any other transaction fees. Admittedly, this transfer is not instant, so clearly BTC has an advantage there, but at a significant cost, currently >3% in total to transfer across all the exchanges/currencies (which may be even more costly than doing a wire transfer from a bank). If you use Lloyds (or any other bank) for transfering money to other countries/currencies, you should check the alternatives, and currently the cheapest one is not BTC.
Either way, the original point was about loss of transactions for banks, which doesn't really seem to be the case, as people still use them despite those fees and the abundance of cheaper alternatives (I forgot the mention an even cheaper alternative, Interactive Brokers, where it would cost you practically nothing, maybe 2bps, to transfer between your different currency accounts - of course if you don't use their trading platform it's very costly due to inactivity fees).
It would be very nice to evolve to a point where BTC exchange fees are driven close to zero from increased competition and economies of scale, and then it becomes practically free to move money across countries with BTC, and I certainly hope this will be the case soon. But within the UK for example I can't see why I would prefer it over Faster Payments (same for within the Eurozone for SEPA etc).

On point 2, read again what I wrote. Deposits are not capital, they are liabilities. Withdrawals of deposits reduce the bank's balance sheet, by removing cash from the asset side and deposits from the liability side. They do not reduce the bank's capital, nor its capacity to lend.

And maybe instead of swearing, you should try arguing a little more politely. Just saying.

Observations/experiences look sound, to me.

Interactive Brokers. Forgot about them. They had a complicated fee structure and a basic platform, but they were always the cheapest.

And yes, Transferwise seems to be the route to take. Wikileaksdude's post above links to a 'first trade fee free' (usually 0.5%). 
2453  Economy / Lending / Re: Any offers of BTC Options, to be settled in GBP? on: April 07, 2013, 09:56:50 PM
Got my option, although the terms are to exercise in BTC and not GBP.... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169502.0;topicseen

You got a bargain, given historical realised volatility, IMHO it's worth about double that.

He did get a good deal, was only because it was on behalf of a relative of mine who wished to hedge a small amount of his coins incase BTC value remains the same or crashes.
This was a one off deal.
He was going to sell 10 BTC for £1000 but decided to do this instead so technically if the option is excercised he will make an additional £600.
I do not believe BTC will crash and neither does he, but he actually will make more money overall if BTC does jump over £150 - so hopefully it will and be win-win for all parties Smiley
He reads this forum but does not post so I am conducting this on his behalf - I also hold the 10 BTC in my posession until the end of this also.

Tis a fine example of how different players buy and sell for all sorts of strategies and reasons. Who would have thought that Bitcoin would evolve into Options and Hedging so soon, eh?

Regards to your relative. 
2454  Economy / Lending / Re: Any offers of BTC Options, to be settled in GBP? on: April 07, 2013, 12:31:41 PM
Got my option, although the terms are to exercise in BTC and not GBP.... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169502.0;topicseen
2455  Economy / Lending / Re: BTC Payment On Difference Agreement between Projects and Stereotype on: April 07, 2013, 11:50:33 AM
Agreed and confirmed. Game on.

Thanks Projects
2456  Economy / Lending / Re: Any offers of BTC Options, to be settled in GBP? on: April 06, 2013, 08:13:53 PM
If someone came up with a trading platform (like an exchange) I would be interested in trading options in BTC, settled in GBP. I would even consider proper market making providing bid-offers for an entire strip of options and different maturities. If in a few years, trading volumes have continued to increase at the current rate, I could even consider coming up with such a service as a full time job (not worth it yet though Smiley )

Not sure if youre UK based, but i started a thread, in a similar vain..... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158010.0
2457  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ziggap Bitcoin Sales Service on: April 06, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
A pretty website does not a good business make.

The fact that the second and third dividends were both exactly 10 BTC tells me that he was just paying out a dividend to keep the shareholders quiet, not because ZigGap had actually made any money. I've seen this strategy before with other, now defunct, Bitcoin ventures.

Since the BTCJam loan is overdue, it's only further confirmation that ZigGap is broke.

I sincerely hope that nothing tragic happened to him, family wise, but I know if I was trying to hide from my creditors I would use the family excuse because it's not socially acceptable to question someone's claims when it comes to unfortunate family matters. Even I have to tread carefully while typing this out, lest I be criticized as an inconsiderate bastard.  Wink

The lightning excuse is only icing on the cake; I had to laugh at that one.  Cheesy

You put the family issue conundrum very well. Tis, and always will be taboo, which is the attraction of use, of course.

The lightning tosh has kept me entertained for a while. I appreciate that being electrically qualified does not allow that person to fully understand the physics of lightning, but i can tell you, there's every physical reason why a laptop (and its hard drive) cannot be fried, plugged in or not, unless your sitting under a tree with it. Im fascinated to know what else got fried??
2458  Economy / Lending / Any offers of BTC Options, to be settled in GBP? on: April 06, 2013, 04:04:54 PM
Are there any reputable members, who could offer a BTC Option agreement in £s?
 
The fee could be paid in BTC, but for the Option to be settled in GBP/Sterling.

Thanks
2459  Economy / Goods / Selling 2x 1btc Casascius Coins (UK Only) on: April 04, 2013, 04:18:53 PM
I have 2x 1BTC Casascius coins for sale at the mo. These two coins are from the same batch from when i first posted this ad early last year, and are therefore straight from Mike. Pending any spot movement to moon or gloom, current price £825, including insured, signed for, and tracked delivery.

UK/GBP Bank Transfer only.
UK postal delivery only.

Cheers

P.S. please ignore the blanks in the pic.






2460  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is UK so slow to jump on this? on: April 03, 2013, 06:02:15 PM
Maybe there's not so much interest in Bitcoin because the City of London being the world's financial capital already has too many other toys to play with.

That said, City forex dealers are missing out on massive profit potential with BTC. What other currency appreciates by 100% in less than a month.

I think it's true the UK banks don't like Bitcoin. Not to mention the government, they never like things or want to support things that they can't control.

I buy from my euro account in Germany via bitcoin24 only 1.24 euro per bank transfer. Unbelievable that the UK banks charge 25 GBP for a SEPA.

What century are they living in. UK banks still issue cheques as well.








I suspect the City boys n girls, are loving this unregulated, untaxable, unrestrained market. Maybe it suits the suits, as it is.
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