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2461  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Phishing Update on: December 29, 2018, 07:29:58 PM
Also someone mentioned a while back that you could use the nano ledger s with electrum.  I never done this.  But if you do it this way, i heard electrum acts as a watching only wallet.  But if you had download this, it would not affect it since you are still using the nano ledger?
2462  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Phishing Update on: December 29, 2018, 07:28:19 PM
Im also confused here.  So when the ppl downloaded that software, i read they gave you a link to download it and you had to copy and paste it right?  However, was that directly from electrums website or a fake website?  So if you downloaded electrum from the legit site when this occurred, there would been no issue?


So those that downloaded it, did they had to put their seed into it as copy and paste it?  If not, how did that occur then?
2463  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Phishing Update on: December 29, 2018, 07:21:20 PM
so as of now, if i open electrum as is and dont send btc, i will not see any message correct?

should i update to the new electrum on the website right now?

should i bother trying to send the small amount of btc i have now in my electrum wallet so i dont keep anything there?  the thing is if i do try to send btc from electrum right now, will i get that message that others got or not?  If i do, can i x it out and ignore it?  im hesitant to even open electrum b/c of this now.
2464  Bitcoin / Electrum / Electrum Phishing Update on: December 29, 2018, 05:47:11 AM
I notice several threads of this where people mentioned they tried to send btc and it got a message and it ask to update electrum.


I use electrum very rarely now but still have some btc there.  Does that mean if i try to send btc with electrum, i will get this message?  If so, how does it look and does it update it for you if you click yes or something like that?  Or you have to visit the website to download it? 


I opened electrum few times from my laptop recently and had no issue but i have not sent any btc from it recently.  From what i read, ppl who are trying to send btc get this message.  So did this affect all electrum users?  Someone mentioned i believe its only if you didn't put a password on electrum?  Or its only electrum users from a current version?  I'm using 3.0.5 if that matters?  I don't want to open electrum and then try to send btc and then get an update message and have no clue what to click.  Like does it ask you yes or no?  Or its just a message and you have to X it out?  And where do you do the update?
2465  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: How to transfer altcoins to Nano Ledger S Wallet? on: December 26, 2018, 06:19:41 AM
Thanks HCP.


So that means the waves after the transfer would be in the nano ledger s... and the waves wallet would act as the watching client right?  Thus no waves would be in the waves wallet anymore?


However, all those airdrops that i got for holding waves... those would still be kept in the waves client and not nano ledger s right?
2466  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 26, 2018, 02:06:56 AM
I thought there was a power ledger wallet as when you type power ledger wallet, there is a site called powerledger.io?


Thanks for the information with everything else man. 


By the way, how many of these coins can i install at once?  Example i installed bitcoin and also waves already.  I know there is a limit but i believe that has changed?   Also if i see waves in my nano ledger s when i scroll around it on the ledger screen, that means i have it downloaded right?
2467  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make money with bitcoin price dropping? on: December 26, 2018, 12:33:28 AM
Well how does one short anything if they don't have anything to begin with?  Example you have 10000 dollars.  You think btc will drop in price pretty soon.  So how could you short if you have btc on you at the moment?  Because wouldn't shorting require you to either have btc already?  Because say you think btc will drop soon.  Well you certainly arent going to buy any btc anytime soon right?  Because i thought shorting means you can bet on it dropping in price from now? 


2468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Waves Lite Client with Nano Ledger S on: December 25, 2018, 11:55:26 PM
I still have waves in the lite client.  I want to use it with the nano ledger s.  Do most of you have waves in the client still or you moved it to ledger s?  Anyone here still using the lite client or most are using desktop client?


Can someone tell me how i move waves to the ledger s?  So basically someone said it has to be used together for it to work.  So that would mean the waves moves to the ledger s.  But all the airdrops like wave community token and similar coins are on the waves wallet?
2469  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:51:33 PM
HCP thanks.  And putting a password is 100 percent recommended right?  I know with electrum, you told me a while back, you 100 percent need to put one for sending btc.  But the other password of seeing its balance, well that is of course recommended but not required but of course someone checking your computer could view it very easily etc.


Also are you familiar with powerledger?  I notice that ledger s supports it.  But then it shows you need MEW or mycrypto as the wallet similar to like waves wallet and nano ledger s?  So example if i keep powerledger in my trading account, i can't just send it to nano ledger s.  I need either MEW or mycrypto to use in combination with nano ledger s?  So you cant even use powerledgers own wallet for this?
2470  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:45:01 PM
HCP, when i do the thing with waves, so that would mean all my waves would be transferred to the nano ledger s if i do the transfer?  Thus there would be 0 waves in my waves client?


Do you know what happens to all those airdrops from waves like wave community token and similar coins etc?


Also.  Does this mean i could basically right now check my nano ledger s with either ledger live or that bitcoin ledger app from the chrome store?  Thus i still have 2 options to choose from anytime i want?  Also i notice that when i opened ledgerlive without the ledger connected to it, it still showed the currency balance of btc there.  But that is updated live is that correct?  Like example i sent some btc using the bitcoin ledger wallet from chrome.  Then i unplug it from laptop.  Then i open ledgerlive... but i do not have the ledger connected to my laptop.  It would show the correct updated btc balance?  
2471  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:40:49 PM
Hcp, yes i will use the edit button from now on.  And earlier for some reason after i click manager, it never loaded the apps which is why i ask this.
2472  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:39:17 PM
Alright nevermind, it got me to the app catalog for some reason.  But was there any issue because i had waves client opened earlier?
2473  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:38:13 PM
Okay when i installed waves from coin app from manager... i actually had the waves lite client opened.  I did not notice this earlier.  You say you are not suppose to do that.  Is there any effect this had?  I had the waves lite client opened and did not know it would have any affect. 


Right now i closed the waves lite client.  But where is that page where i could choose to download all those apps?  I cannot find this on ledger live at the moment.
2474  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:35:05 PM
Okay this is strange.  Is there a reason why i can't go back to that page where it shows the manager and all the coins i could install like waves and every other coin?


Because when i click on accounts and the plus sign, there is only a small number of coins i could add from there.  Like i don't see an option to add powerledger for example.  I cannot find this page anymore.
2475  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:30:41 PM
Hi there.  Okay i just installed bitcoin from the manager and then it synchronize.  Now i see it there.  Its in the accounts and portfolio.


Well i did install waves by clicking on install waves.  It does show waves on the nano ledger s when i scroll through it with the left/right buttons on the ledger s...


2476  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:21:32 PM
So right before this, i had installed the waves from the app catalog.  When i did this, the waves is available on my nano ledger s when you browse through it.  But i did not do the waves client with nano ledger s connection yet.


But as of now, i don't have bitcoin when i scroll left to right.  It is only waves.  


So right now follow the instructions i posted right before this post?  


Install bitcoin version 1.3.1.  Then once i do this.  Click on Accounts and click on add and put in bitcoin and continue?  And what do i name it?


Thanks man.
2477  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:19:19 PM
Okay so right now with bitcoin.  I first click on install next to bitcoin version 1.3.1.


Then once i do that, click on accounts, add and click on bitcoin and call it bitcoin 1?


Then once i do that, click on portfolio and i could view my btc?  If i don't do the 2nd part, then when i click on portfolio, there is nothing there?
2478  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 11:10:57 PM
Okay this is another thing that confuses me.  So i have to install the bitcoin app from that app catalog right?  So example i could just install bitcoin, waves right now and once i do that, then its installed.  But there is this option on the bottom left where it ask you to add account.  I saw in video the guy would add bitcoin and then name it bitcoin 1.


So when i add bitcoin to it, do i need to do both things here?  Thus click on install bitcoin.  And then Click on that plus next to the add accounts to add accounts to this portfolio?  Im confused why there are like 2 options here?
2479  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Nano Ledger S USD Value Incorrect? on: December 25, 2018, 10:56:52 PM
Hey man sorry about that.  This freaks me out so thats why im posting all over the place.


I did what you said and that did work.  Thanks man.  Now i have to install the bitcoin app right with that app catalog?  Because when i click on portfolio, nothing shows up.
2480  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger Nano S firmware update 1.4.1 on: December 25, 2018, 10:52:42 PM
Haven't use the nano ledger s in a few months.  Decided to download ledger live as people say and i read you should use it.  When i did this, it ask on the ledger screen to update or not to firmware 1.4 after i clicked update on the laptop.  I then right clicked on the nano ledger s with the check mark.  When i did this, all i see on my laptop screen is ledger live with everything white.  I could close it by x it but i did not.  Right now it shows ledger live but screen is white.


My ledger nano s... it has like a download logo showing on the screen and to the right of it, has the word Update.


So did my firmware update frozed?  I still have ledger s connected to my laptop.  Did not unplug or click anything yet because i have no idea what to do now.  Last time i did a firmware update and it frozed and it took a while to fix this issue.  Does anyone know ledger s keeps having issues like this?  This is very annoying and frustrating for a device that is a hardware wallet.  Why are there this many bugs etc? 
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