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2461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 19, 2016, 03:00:30 AM
The higher the upward trend of Bitcoin, the greater the risk of investing the coins in other investments. I think at the moment the best investment probably is Bitcoin itself. It takes patience and long-term thinking, it may not take too long for Bitcoin to demonstrate its true potential.
i think bitcoin are showing potential now, become the best among other cryptocurrency it's, my opinion. and what do you think the true potential bitcoin ?

your thinking is right. but to make it clear it is not just a potential but it is the best cryptocurrency as of now. That is a fact and not just a opinion of yours. We all here on this forum because of bitcoin and it current price is the best among the rest of the altcoin. So the real question is until when did the bitcoin maintain its current status.

@OP. buying bitcoin itself and just store it is the best way to invest on bitcoin, don't risk on other investment. just play safe
2462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Vslice Token Predictions on: December 19, 2016, 02:39:48 AM
trading tokens before launch doesnt mean anything man....

i think early trading of vslice has an impact on the price of the token when it release in the market or on other big exchange. Because it is just like a survey on an election, You can get the pulse of the traders about what will gonna happen on its price. If you are familiar on iconomi. They have some scenario and liqui early iou trading gave a huge impact to it's price,
2463  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to determine the price of a product in bitcoin on: December 18, 2016, 11:33:47 PM
We all know that bitcoins price changes quickly because of its demand So if some online shop sells products and pricing it in bitcoin,
How can we price it ? Should the price change also like btc?
The best way is to fix the price of the item or service in fiat values. This ensures that the payment will always for the full amount, regardless of the pricing of bitcoin fluctuating.

I agree on this, putting the value of the item in fiat will guarantee that  you won't get bankrupt or overcharge due to Bitcoin price change,  After setting up prices you can then get some BTC to USD convert reference and use some of plugin that convert the price to current bitcoin to usd exchange. 
yes i think that is the only solution to compare the product of the object with with USD and then it will be easy to buy or sell an object in bitcoin, as you have only to convert it into USD to determine the amount of bitcoin for buying that object.

Exactly it is the only way to price any items. Any shops will just do it since the buyers know really through Google the value of some items. If it will be based in the increase of btc . The amount of the item can be doubled as its value that no one will buy it. So there's no other option but just use the USD or their country's currency then convert in btc.
2464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 18, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
Well, i dont really believe in fortune tellers, i tried to let a fortune teller tell my fortune about my studies. Well, it sounds great, because the fortune teller said that i just need to continue what i am doing so i just follow the fortune teller's advice. Though i followed the advice of the fortune teller, i dont really have a good grades, i didnt eve pass one of my subjects and it is really sad. Dont trust what they say about your future and what might happen to you, because at the end of the day, your success is your responsibility.

I don't know if we should denigrate all fortune tellers, because one said something to you that didn't happen. There are many charlatans on this area, but I don't say all of them are lying, I keep my mind open to possible facts and events that may really exit. However, when we are talking about gambling, I don't think legit fortune tellers will predict results.

They should help to prevent accidents, tragedies and help people this way, not involving financial methods to become rich, etc.

Its not that im trying to tell you guys to hate fortune tellers, but what i am trying to say is, we people hold our future. We must not base it on what a fortune teller said. I have also thought that i must take it as a warning or a tip for what will happen to me. And whatever they might say, you can still change it because it is your future, not theirs.

that's right mate, our future is in our hands and no one can tell what will happen to us tomorrow or the next day/month or even in the next year. we should not depend on what a fortune teller said when it comes to our personal life because our future will only depend on what action we are making in the present . and even in gambling they can never determine when luck will come even a lotto number Grin
rather no one can know when luck will come not only in the lottery, but for all kinds of gambling, sometimes you will lose first before you can win in gambling. that's why there are rumors by used tactics will able you to win in gambling.
Right no one can ever tell or assumed that they were lucky unless they tried. It is necessary that they might win and lose also. The possibilities will always defends on their strategy ,tactics and luck but one thing for sure we can win little b little wit control in ourselves.
2465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 50 Dollars a Day! on: December 18, 2016, 11:48:29 AM
I will rather don't take gambling, betting as a way of earning anything. There is no any working strategy on gambling or even in sports betting that can guarantee you the profit. I don't think there are any one who is earning constant 50$ or even 1$ everyday with gambling or from betting.

I agree that no one earns fixed amount every day. But there is a chance that you can win huge profit in single day that equals to the daily constant profit. I experienced this. I always gamble for 1$ a day and then i constantly lose for 7 day but on the 8th day. I won 100$ so when i do the math. It is overlap on my preferred daily profit.
2466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 18, 2016, 08:22:38 AM
true, that s my point ... real world casino will give you a guarantee while online not as feel secure as real world gambling , too much bad things that online casino have , but actually it is just depends on how we responds on it.

as some people really need online gambling for legality reasons, so that is just fine.

Depends on what you think security is, some people think that their identity needs to be secured therefore some people like to stay anonimous which is why people always choose online casino rather than land based. It makes no different at all and I think it is just slightly better as you can easily access it from your bedroom

Not only just unanimous gambling but many people accessing real casinos are not so comfortable due to some countries are not allowed gambling or they may be quite far from their places. So many people. So many people choose to play from home without any issues at their free time.

Right online gambling is much better because of that reason and because of the audiences in casinos that we can't focus on the strategy. Playing at home makes us focus and no hassle in environment and extra charges
2467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO CLOSED] Incent Loyalty | Waves token | $1.1m raised | Roll-out Q1 2017 on: December 18, 2016, 04:47:43 AM
Missed the ICO where can i buy some?

I think there is a trading thread for Incent. Just search for it in altcoin marketplace. But it is just a peer to peer method so be careful and always use escrow. But if you have time, maybe you should try to join their slack and ask for the devs to buy some incent on ICO price. Maybe they will sell you some because there is still a lot of incent available. Goodluck
2468  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: December 18, 2016, 03:52:48 AM


Even in certain third world nations, the government is cracking hard on tax evasion. The recent demonetization drive by the Indian government is a good example. Earlier, these third world nations tolerated tax evasion to a certain degree. That is no longer the case.

Yes, of course that is part of their job but the truth their is that most of the people on those certain countries really does not pay their taxes, as i have seen only most of the big time people are the ones who were ask by the government so basically they don't have any clue to those small time ones.

Maybe they don't have no clue on small ones because those business no matter how big or small if it is not registered by their municipality or in any government relating to registration will not really assigned tax to them because they might even not know that their business exist. Same with bitcoin it is no charge for tax because some government doesn't know that it exist though they may know but still don't have any chance to make it a big deal.
2469  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how can i safe from scamer members.. on: December 12, 2016, 03:05:54 PM
Just always use escrow service and there are a lot of trusted people here who are offering that type of service. Also if your deal mate wants you to send bitcoins immediately then for sure that is something fishy. And much better if you want to be safe always ask some identification to prove that he is a legit one.

That's it look for their identification and ask people here who knows if our mate is legit or not. Ask them if they think the transaction is fair and worthy. Dont trust fast better knew them well their previous  transactions and coordinate with them pleasantly. Treat each other right to be able a good transaction.
2470  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: December 12, 2016, 12:08:17 PM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.

This quote is so great that every trader or people who wants to trade must remember this because it speaks the reality that all traders has lost a one or two in trading.

That's why it is important to know that losing is a part of trading and those who won't take its risks will not succeed.  

This thing called fear are also often experienced by traders and to lessen this, Why not just trade with small amounts?

because every traders want to make big profit so they can risk for the big amounts but with limit of experienced, it is not good for the traders and we should learn step by step before we make trading with big amount. losing money is a good experience for us so we can learn more in trading and we can learn to make a good prediction in the price so we can avoid losing money in future.

Right when we lose we gain experience and we avoid losing again. We got fear on losing that we will not allow yourself to do it again. We need to focus and make more effort in investing or trading. We need to go far from gambling.
2471  Economy / Services / Re: sha-256 , and cpu rig rentals on: December 12, 2016, 10:26:30 AM
Hello J, thanks alot for your rentals so far. Pleasure doing business with you.
And to others, i highly recommend  using his services. I am currenly renting few THS from him on a weekly basis and havent had any issues.

If anyone has any questions feel free to reach out.

Testimonial from newbie member here is not valid unless you provide some proof that you are really renting his rig.

@OP. Can you please explain me further on how can i have profit on renting your rigs? Please explain me the process and provide some simple calculations. And why do you prefer to rent it rather than use it to mine for your own profit?
2472  Economy / Services / Re: HIRING: E-sports lovers and writers! on: December 12, 2016, 10:09:45 AM
Sent you a PM

Hello OP. I already reply on your PM sorry for late reply because it' been flooded by other msgs. Will you mind if you post here the guide lines and your preferred for the article. I write some article in the past but i don't of you will like the construction and thoughts of my article. Just PM so that i will not be mislead for your preference. Thank you
2473  Economy / Gambling discussion / How to control emotion when you are on crucial part of gambling? on: December 12, 2016, 10:04:44 AM
Hello, i have some problem when i play dice game and i'm on betting higher amount to cover my losses, this is always the part where i'm always feel excited and nervous whenever i click roll. My heart is always beating fast and always resulting to out of control to my betting. I just want to know on how you manage on betting without feeling nervous.
2474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When did you begin using Bitcoin? on: December 12, 2016, 09:58:13 AM
From the poll data:

2009    - 2 (2.1%)
2010    - 3 (3.2%)
2011    - 6 (6.3%)
2012    - 6 (6.3%)
2013    - 11 (11.6%)
2014    - 18 (18.9%)
2015    - 23 (24.2%)
2016    - 26 (27.4%).

People are becoming expose to Bitcoin with time, and if this trend continues, then this is a very positive news for Bitcoin holders because the demand will make the price to keep moving North
   

I don't really mind your overall conclusion, because there is likely some truth to your overall conclusions, but I doubt that the poll data is a very reliable indicator of such conclusion, because there could be other explanations why old timers may not be participating in this thread or the forum generally... and conversely.

It is true. Poll is not reliable for concluding the total users that exposed to bitcoin. To make it easier to conclude. Just go to the list of all members on the forum and get the total user that registered. In that way you will have huge source of data and that is reliable rather doing a poll here because not all users are interested ans see this poll. And considering that all the farm accounts will be representing those bitcoin users that didn't know this forum.
2475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the Bitcoin price ever drop back down to $500? on: December 12, 2016, 09:42:39 AM
Bitcoin is now experiencing development and current prices continue to rise so it is very profitable. But bitcoin prices always fluctuate, and we can not guess. I'm sure the bitcoin price will drop probably around 500 - 600. That's because the market price may not always go up, there was a time when the market price will drop. But after that the price will go up again higher, and that I think is reasonable.

You already stated above that the price of bitcoin is always fluctuating so that means that dumping to 500$ price is quiet impossible now because it's current price is far from 500$ and i think bitcoin price already passed that price coverage. Only major incident just like bitfinex issue will made the price of bitcoin dump hard again but besides that, i think it is impossible.
2476  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Marami bang galit Kay LEILA DE LIMA ? on: December 12, 2016, 09:38:15 AM
Mas lalong madaming magagalit kay De Lima lalo na ngayon dahil sa  balita lang tungkol kay Leila De Lima, aalis na siya ng bansa natin at ipapalabas na aattend siya sa isang conference.

Pero ang nakikita ng marami dito ay political assylum na, tatakas na siya. Katulad ng ginawa ni Joma Sison.

Kaya balak siya harangin ng VACC.

Reference: http://viiiids.blogspot.com/2016/12/must-watch-de-lima-lilipad-na-travel.html

Yn nalang kc tlga last option nya. Lahat ng ebidensya ay sya ang itinuturo na mastermind sa paglaganap ng droga sa bilibid.  Siguro pinabayaan n sya ng mga protektor nya na matataas na opisyal at pinayuhan na umalis na lamang. Truth shall prevail at naniniwala ako na hindi makakatakas yn fahil maiinit n sya sa mga ng mga tao
2477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 12, 2016, 08:35:20 AM
ICONOMI has a great future ahead in 2017.. just buy and forget, put it in cold storage  Cool
Good idea, But will you still received a dividend if your ICN is on the cold storage?? ICONOMI dividend is the best feature of that coin so that your investment will be worth it.
ICN price of now is still volatile, It is good to play on short trading rather than just stored it and just wait for next year price inflation that is not sure to happened.
It is better to don't miss the opportunity to have profit on short trading on ICN. Cheesy
2478  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Poloniex trade history doesn't load on: December 12, 2016, 08:16:46 AM
It is loading normally in my chrome browser, which browser you are using?
You can either try different browser or you can check does the problem exist on incognito mode or not. If it doesn't exist in incognito mode than you better clear your browser cache and try again.

Poloniex is working properly too on my rog laptop with a stable internet. I encounter that problem too when i used my computer on my office because the internet is secured and and has only limited connection. I think OP chrome is just a little bit out dated if he is using a free internet connection. Or some plug ins on his browser that interupting the data transfer. Huh
2479  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: How long BITCOIN influence your life?? on: December 12, 2016, 05:04:07 AM

Meron b dito sa inyong sa bitcoin nalang umiikot ang buhay pang araw araw??

Athough maybe just 20% lng ng ating populasyon ang nkakaalam ng tungkol sa mga currencies na ito..

Is it possible na sa bitcoin knalang dumidiskarte ng pangbuhay mo sa araw araw??

sakin yes, madami naman kasing way pra kumita ng bitcoin kaya pwede naman mkakuha dito ng pang gastos sa araw araw. last year nga nkakakuha pa ako ng atleast 3-5k php araw araw e dahil sa sobrang dami ng sideline, medyo tinamad na lang ako sa iba :v

3-5k php per day? Galing nmn nyan. for how long mo na maintain ung ganyang profit daily. Kc napakahirap nyan kung pure services ka lng dto at walang investment. Hindi stable ang trading at ang alam ko lng na fix income ay signature and social media bounty. Aside from that, mejo mahirap na kumita ng bitcoin. pwera nlng kung may sarili kng miner. Npakaliit siguro ng chance na may taong sa bitcoin nlng kumukha ng profit for daily use kc hindi nmn tlga profitable ang BTC kung wla kng nilalabas na pera galing sa sariling bulsa.
2480  Economy / Economics / Re: What will be our new world currency? on: December 11, 2016, 10:00:36 PM
I really don't see how bitcoin would be able to be the next dominant world currency.
At the moment it is the dollar followed by the euro with a big distance.
Bitcoin with its 12 billion market capitalization is way too small to play in that league, even if its worth would climbe 100 times of what it has now.
In my opinion the dominant world currency has to be a fiat, backed up by a major national economy.
It is true that presently USD is the dominant currency of the world, but the grown trend of online business and shopping the trend of bitcoin, fiat currency is now decreasing people giving preference to digital currencies, so we can hope that a time is coming when majority of people will be using crypto currency instead of fiat.
USD is now losing its value which is already cleared from online businesses which all are now going to use bitcoin. The majority of people will definitely use crypto currency for their businesses instead of fiat in the coming future. They now have their banks in their own hands and they can easily handle all of their financial affairs without any bank of government.

Now USD is not able to produce any new source that is why they are dying and what you said is right that in the coming days where internet and online shopping is the main source of products sales in that bitcoin is going to  play the major role and in within some years we can see bitcoin occupying the world currency also


True soon USD will no longer exist , but that soon may not happen for 10 to 30 years it will be replaced by other currency like Yuan.  But for bitcoin it may not be popular now to everyone but its adaptability by the users were growing faster that it can be used after 5-10 years in every online purchasing and paying sites and hopefully also as a fiat in every country.
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